Biden’s office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.

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    This is sad. Taking into account of how he was treated by the DNC and how 2024 went down, this is just the shit cherry on the shit sundae.

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    Since this is an opportunity to educate people about health, I will not discuss politics here. :)

    • If you’re a guy, your urinary tract is stupidly complicated from a medical viewpoint and there’s a prostate beneath the bladder which hydrogenates testosterone (T is produced by the brain) into dihydrotestosterone, produces fluid to mix the seminal fluid with, and generally supports fertility and gender specific phenotype.

    • With progressing age, the prostate enlarges, gets infected with HPV (nearly everyone gets it) and may get bacterial infections (typical ones are E. coli). It may also develop calcinations.

    • Risk is reduced if you live in Asia and eat a traditional menu containing much soy bean products which enables guys in those regions to enjoy several times less prostate cancer.

    • Risk is increased with nearly every urinary tract infection, especially if not conclusively diagnosed and treated.

    • After the age of 40, regularly have PSA (prostate specific antigen) measured from a blood test. It tells how much disintegration and immune reaction is occurring down there.

    • Regularly have ultrasound check-ups done. If there are UTI symptoms, treatment must not occur blindly, but must be followed by observation.

    • If you are young and your home country has medical insurance that covers HPV vaccination, get it while it’s free (because it costs 150 € a dose). If you’re rich enough, there may be a point in getting it later too, especially if you’ve not had unsafe sex (it doesn’t protect after infection). The majority of people get HPV during their lives and approximately 9 strains cause cervical cancer in women and raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. By getting vaccinated against HPV, you protect both yourself and your partners from drawing a ticket in a quite nasty lottery.

    • As long as prostate cancer is androgen dependent, it can be suppressed with an androgen blockade.

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    This comment section shows that even on decentralized, less mainstream platforms there’s a lot of people behaving similarly to what would be called bots on Reddit. Come on, guys, we can do better than this.

    We can acknowledge Joe Biden’s crimes and failures without cheering his sickness and wishing him a painful death. Same with Donald Trump and all the other scummy politicians.

    We can also disagree about various policies, issues or parties while treating each other with respect and an open mind, instead of degrading all discussion to ‘communism vs capitalism’ or ‘democracy vs fascism’ arguments.

    I know it can be difficult to remain civil towards government officials who are essentially criminals, and anyone who supports or seems to support them in any capacity. However, I personally think we should try.

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      Technically the decentralized network is MORE susceptible to bots than a centralized network who can pool resources and maintain a sitewide blacklist.

      What it is less susceptible is actions made by asshole owners.

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      I have not checked out Reddit but are you telling me that Reddit is more based than lemmy.world? Maybe it is time to move back.

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        Never Fuck it never… I’ll just stop using any type of platform like this who cares at the end of the day. When I’m working on computers though, I need quality information. You know That’s what I’m afraid of.

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      I’m also okay with a permanent coma where you can visit him and piss in his mouth.

      He is a genocidal criminal vile person, responsible for the death of THOUSANDS of children. My sympathy is over a long time ago.

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      Either post on reddit and get a mix of Nazis and Russian bots.

      Or post on Lemmy and get dumb fucks that idolize Russia or China and don’t even understand what communism is they just know it’s “cool” to be against capitalism.

      Also never vote, but simultaneously blame the Democrats for everything.

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        China is a capitalist country, Russia is a capitalist country, America is a capitalist country, and right now the United States is committing a genocide in Gaza, because Americans have been conditioned to not care about Muslim people. Yet at the same time, our government is working with arab countries that are oppressive (with kings) and are known to have commited human rights abuses. Also, they played the part in 9/11. If this Jesus ever came back, you would just nail his ass back on the cross again. You smell like new born babe. I like the confidence but you seem confused. The United States uses some of its allies to coordinate and commit terrorist acts. And before you call me a Russian troll or a useful idiot, just know that all these capitalist countries do this. I mean, don’t you remember India just killing people in Canada? or the Saudi douche bags that killed that journalist who had his body chopped up into pieces?If you’re a serious person, you know this. The world is capitalistic and the wealth is consolidated at the top. There is not much money in the public sector and because the United States affects the world economically, the rest of the world is thrown into turmoil. There is a new economic system called BRICS. It’s challenging the petrol dollar. Basically, we’re approaching the beginning of the end. And pretty soon, they’re going to start using tactical nukes, which are low yield. COVID-19 was a biological weapon. Your government lies to you at every opportunity. You are nothing but cattle. Just to give you some, I don’t know, perspective you could read about Edward Bernays. Also, look up imperialism. Also, you could learn about hegemony. Oh child, you have so much to learn. Oh yeah, maybe you should learn about Alan Dulles. …During World War II, we financed the Nazis. Then, towards the end of the war, we used the Catholic Church, who was complicit and also had fascist elements inside of it and still does, to traffic, German scientist, to Argentina, and South America, and the United States, in which they worked on our rocket program to compete against the Soviet Union. these human trafficking pathways were called rat lines. The Book of History never closes and it’s just constant war. That’s all we do is war. And if there’s any innovation out there, most likely it’s going to be turned into a weapon or it came from the research from the military industrial complex because we don’t invest any real meaningful capital in anything other than learning how to kill women and children more efficiently. People like you just live in denial. But I mean, if we were friends in real life, I’d be busting out books, articles, all trusted sources. This isn’t some QAnon nonsense. This is real fucking life. I mean, if communism is a good idea or a bad idea, it’s still understandable that the kids of today are just kind of sick and tired of this bullshit exponential madness of capitalism. Populism is on the rise because this is what happens with capitalism in crisis. Fascist are the useful idiots of empire and America is an imperialist empire. I mean, you could say, oh, this is some kind of byproduct, oooooor it’s by design. And if you watch the cash flow and the money markets, you understand why things are the way they are. This is clearly intentional. And then why don’t you look into BlackRock? It’s just a labyrinth and we’re all walking into the trap as we argue with each other and it’s just generation after generation of just lazy thinking. Each generation in this country live less meaningful lives. It just gets worse. Those homeless people that you drive by and look at like animals in the zoo, just realize one day that could be you. There is no war but the class war and capitalism is global. There is no communism. Today is a world of capitalism. Also dig through some of the CIA files in the reading room on their website. You’ll find a lot of stuff that’s kind of revealing and insightful. America isn’t really locked down. It’s just people are lazy and they just don’t learn about how things work. Also, people will go out and share their opinions even though they did no work to have those opinions. If I knew you would actually listen, I would give you the links. But I mean, now anything goes and everybody’s a liar, I guess. It’s like Plato’s allegory of the cave. And all the people that do the bidding of this disinformation campaign are the ones that are going to suffer for it. I mean, things are not improving in this country. And eventually, you know, even you or… Some successful person will eventually fall victim to unemployment. Your currency is devaluing every single day. And now they have come up with crypto in which they can completely control everything you do with your money. But they kind of already could have done that with your bank account. Your money’s not baked backed by anything that’s real. It’s really just monopoly money with faith. And the only reason it has value is because the United States enforces that value with its violence and the world’s getting sick of it. But yet the world doesn’t have a better system. So it’s almost guaranteed that the world probably go up in flames. I don’t know, we’ll see, stay tuned.

        also in Israel the settlers, the apocalyptic accelerationist are being listened to more and more. And there are certain elements in Israel’s government that are even more extreme than Netanyahu. Before the war and even now Israel is on the brink of a civil war. Israels leaders have intentions of going beyond just Iran and Palestine. America using it as a puppet but yet struggles to keep it from going outside the lines of acceptable behavior. The world now outside of the little hug box of America dumb fuckery views Israel as a unprofessional army. I mean, give it some time, baby, if we’re still around. You know, I’ve lived long enough to see it shift. Have you heard of the Dead Man Switch? That’s linked to Russia’s nuclear weapons? That was during the Cold War. I wonder what they have now. And then the tech bros in the United States are talking about having AI run our nuclear weapons. I mean you need to try harder. I know you probably got a job and hobbies and you don’t want to spend time on this but I just think you just probably shouldn’t share your opinions. Everything that I’ve talked about is actually true. If you look hard enough you will find all these accusations to Be True oh yeah, one more thing. They’re using open source intelligence with Peter Thiel’s Palantir to pick targets by scraping Twitter. So some snot-nose kid pretending to be an intelligence officer is making post online and then they’re shooting rockets at those locations and just recently they were accused of killing innocent civilians and that person shut down their account and I guess donated some money to charity and they felt awful for what they did. Oh child, oh child you know nothing. I mean shit. I’d rather have communism than what we have today. When you are sheltered, possibly wealthy, you really don’t feel the effects of these things. But the spectrum is shifting, and so as you get older, you will become poorer. And it will be eventually noticeable. Justice will be served. Thank God all men die. No war but the class war. (Already down voted hahahah)

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        Yeah what’s up with that? We now cool with China? What?

        Don’t buy Tesla, but buy slave made cars from BYD! WHO LITERALLY RUNS SLAVE CAMPS OUTSIDE OF CHINA.

        What. The. Fuck. Internet.

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          I’ve seen people saying they don’t want to buy a Quest VR headset because Facebook supported the Uyghur genocide (reasonable) and then name PICO as an alternative despite it being owned by ByteDance which is tied to the Chinese government.

          Yeah, people don’t think. They just repeat the popular thing.

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      The Joe Biden legacy is literal genocide. What kind of insane person do you have to be to not be happy about this? This is objectively awesome.

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        Joe Biden is a limp dick idiot and I’m glad he’s fucking dying. hahahhaha thank God all men die.

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        You don’t have to be insane to not be happy about this. I believe in ‘harm reduction’, which is to say: If joe biden were still president, i would probably not be upset if some medical condition removed him from the presidency, because then he could no longer actively do harm from his position of power.

        But now? He has almost no active power or influence over anything. His suffering doesn’t benefit me or reverse any previous harms he’s caused.

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          Yeah so? Does him not having power absolve him of his previous crimes? He had not even expressed any regret for them.

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            What is the purpose of punishment? To reform behavior? Or to make you feel better?

            You can claim justice, but in this case, that’s just making you feel better. You want to hurt someone because they hurt others. That’s how we’ve had never-ending wars. We as a species need to grow past this

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              Do you think the Nuremberg trials were bad too?

              Using “pacisim” to excuse a genocidal maniac who has expressed zero regret for his actions. What a joke. I am glad Hitler died and I am glad Joe Biden is dying.

              The world will grow past these war criminals and their genocide mindset.

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                You’re making assumptions. Fuck no. What’s happening is Gaza is some of the stupidest ape-brain shit we’ve ever done. So chill out, my dude.

                But this lust for vengeance is how Israel and Hamas continued escalating shit. Not a rational brain anywhere in that mess. “They hurt people, so I want to hurt them” is moronic. “They hurt people, so how do I stop them” is how we should be thinking.

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                  Hamas has not continued anything. Israel is the only party which refuses to accept a peaceful resolution. Hamas has accepted a two state solution since 2017. Israel refuses it.

                  It is telling that you are trying to do a both sides on a genocide while feeling bad for its perpetrators.

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          Well, we’re waiting on Obama, here’s to hoping the vile scum murderer chokes on something and dies

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          Biden was part of all of the warmongering as well. He was a primary pusher for the Iraq invasion. Even before his presidency Biden was a massive piece of shit.

          But during his presidency he facilitated a straight clear genocide. Anyone empathizing with Biden is an awful person.

          If Bush gets cancer tomorrow I am cheering too.

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            “Have some humanity” said by the person who is okay with democrat committing genocide.

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              It’s very telling how you people equate not wanting to cheer for an old man dying of cancer with approving of genocide.

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        Get these Democrats off this fucking platform. The libturds have taken over everything. I don’t expect you to be a tanky or some kind of vegan anarchist, but it’s just… This is a place for smart people, okay… You don’t deserve your down votes.

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    My MAGA father-in-law also has prostate cancer. I bet dollar to donut he’s going to be positively giddy hearing this news.

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      Yet, your father is a part of the working class. He is also a part of the proletariat, and he is a victim of government propaganda. The same people that fought revolutions were idiots at one point until they came to realize that their government was tyrannical. We have to have class solidarity. I wish your father a good recovery but Joe Biden that mother fucker can suffer and die

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    It should have happened to Trump. Not that Biden is a good guy, but it would be nice if Trump died of an ass related illness.

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      I’m not convinced Trump is healthy. I bet he has a plethora of health issues but the paid-off doctors aren’t releasing the information.

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      Anything is possible. Prostate cancer is far more common than most people realize…there is an easy to remember true statistic – 80% of all men over 80 have prostate cancer. That’s 4 out of 5. It very often tends to be so slow growing that it’s simply not an issue, really, you’ll have more pressing health concerns that will kill you first.

      It’s good to check, then once it is identified, either dealt with or monitored with regular frequency.

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        What if I stick my finger up my ass? Can I check it myself? Cause I just can’t afford the doctor bill. I heard about the guy that took out his own appendix. I feel like this is a little bit less invasive and a little kinky. What do you think?

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        It has already metastasized in his bones, so it’s much more aggressive than most prostate cancers. After metastasizing there, three 5-year survival rate is about 33% with a median survival time of 21 months. But it’s also very rare for it to have already spread elsewhere before being caught, so I’m assuming that means that this is even more aggressive than normal and that 21 months would be optimistic. But I’m not a medical professional, so I can’t say how valid this assumption is.

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          Do you think Trump will just be cheezing. Do you think that the cheeseburger king could keep his mouth shut about it? Or will he just be so tacky? We are such a trashy country. It’s so funny and scary.

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        its slow growing from what ive heard, but biden had a aggressive type, which would be different, since aggressive types usually have different mutations and genetics compared to the “slow growing ones”. even with something like melanoma, there are more than one type: nodular, subungul,etc. some cancers can be indentified by the type of gene mutations they have thats specific to that cancer

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        I know it’s possible, but I also get the impression he’s going to outlive all of us somehow.

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      With all the ass kissing his cabinet does, he’s sure to get something. Probably why he stays away from MTG these days.

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    Thank goodness he lives in a country where the cancer hospitals haven’t been bombed out of existence with weapons funded by the United States under the leadership of Joe Biden.

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      If he allowed terrorists to build command centres in those hospitals, and dig tunnels underneath, then perhaps they would have been bombed to the ground…

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      That would have been a bummer, wouldn’t it? Joe Biden should have been ashamed of himself if he had allowed such a thing to happen under his leadership. Thank God he didn’t.

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        Oh weird, so it wasn’t a constant stream of weapons provided with stamped approval by the admin? It wasn’t that the only time they threatened to stop it was only a very specific type of heavy bomb, not any other munitions? It wasn’t the Biden admin who initially rejected the terms ceasefire until deep into the conflict? It wasn’t the Biden admins ceasefire plans that were accepted and abandoned by Trump, proving that if they had provided full throated support of those plans it could have very reasonably happened a year sooner?

        Best thing you can say about this fuck was that he was the white guy they used to get Obama elected, cause they figured no one would vote for him unless he had a token cracker.

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          Man, the criticisms are valid, and I’ll even add to them because his pride in not stepping down sooner doomed what shreds of american democracy were left. That said, the best and largest climate bill ever passed by the US govt happened under him. Unions were bolstered and grew under him (not the train workers tho lol) and if nothing else, his victory let me not think about the fat orange cow for ten minutes. In so many ways, I pity and even kinda miss that sad sleepy bastard-- however much he floundered in almost every way. As a bonus his dogs hated government agents as much as I do, and got to bite them with impunity.

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    I wonder how the reaction here would be if trump had this happen to him instead. Fuck being polite about awful people.

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    Stage 4 cancer with metastasis? Not gonna make it. No amount of money or power can stop a dead man walking.

    But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term. He probably won’t make it to the end of the current administration.

    He won’t live long enough to see the major impact of slow rolling Trump’s arrest.

    I wish cancer got the other guy, but I feel no sympathy for an old racist who betrayed various words and didn’t fight back against the fascist hard enough.

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      It is interesting that the medical examination before and during his presidency should have included cancer examination? I thought it is common practice to do a test every 2 years or so…

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      But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term.

      That’s no mystery. If there were primaries, someone to his left might win them.

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      If he won a second term and died then somebody other than Vance and Musk would be running the show, at least.

      Even while dying he’s stilling participating in fundraising for the DNC.

      He will be missed.

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      But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term.

      Look at the average age of congress. Look at what Dianne Feinstein was doing at the end of her life. They don’t want power. It’s all automatic to them at this point. They don’t know now to do anything else then grab and hold as much power as possible without any reason or purpose.

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        if you’re going with “regardless”, might as well add that none of us will "make it’. spoiler alert, we all die at the end.

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          We don’t know that. It’s statistically likely, but it’s possible that due to advances in technology, the first person to cure aging is already alive today.

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      Get everything written down and then have it proof read by a lawyer and a scifi novelist, thats how I beat the Genie in South Africa of 94.

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    Lucky for him he’ll get the best medical treatment on the planet. Meanwhile if I broke a leg I’d be destitute

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      Why tf do Americans reward America with their skills and education? The captain of your sinking country is throwing citizens overboard, and you remain in line? Move!?

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        Outside of a few essentially third world countries that I could save up a few grand and bribe my way into, there really aren’t any countries that are too keen on accepting Usians for citizenship. You might have better luck if you have a doctorate and speak the local language fluently.

        I had a buddy that expatriated to South Korea years ago to teach English, but I think last time I checked in he was still juggling work visas and had no real chance of being a citizen.

        I could be wrong though, I haven’t checked in on him in a while.

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        The captain of your sinking country is throwing citizens overboard, and you remain in line? Move!?

        Hahahahahahaha… you sound like one of our republicans.

        I work as a biomed, a sector of repairing medical equipment that is a sought after career field, desperately needed. Been doing it for five years, and I like to think I’m damn good at my job.

        I also only have an associates degree.

        There are not many countries that will take me with only that associates degree. It’s like I tell conservatives who do the “Don’t like it, move”, being from the US isn’t some special wonderful status that gets us open doors into other countries. Other countries don’t want us like the Republicans don’t want foreigners from other countries, unless they’re wealthy.

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          Biomed isn’t really a sought after career. Most people outside of the medical community don’t even know it exists. The last hospital I worked at was starting a teenage volunteer program and surveyed high school and college kids. 60% thought only doctors and nurses worked at hospitals.

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            By sought after I mean the hospitals searching for us. As you say, my hospital is bringing in high schoolers to intern because the industry basically has no pipeline for workers because most of the old guard are still there but retiring and/or dying off so suddenly there’s a massive lack in a very tiny pool caused by it basically not being advertised until very recently.

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        “Move?!”

        You make it sound like moving houses. Just pack your shit and drive off. Most countries don’t want us, especially if someone wasn’t born lucky enough to be able to go to college, and has some formal education. Even if that was easy, it’s fucking EXPENSIVE. thousands of dollars. A lot of us are barely getting by, and a lot more don’t have the luxury of spending thousands to go to another country. And all that, to move to a place where you won’t have citizenship without lots of work, and hell, If facism takes over that country I’ll get kicked out. Not to mention leaving my entire family behind.

        All this assumes I’m moving to an English speaking country, otherwise I’ll have a language barrier at the same time I’m trying to rebuild my entire existence in a new place with unfamiliar culture.

        There’s probably so much more. It’s not impossible, but for me it’s not feasible at this time. I desperately wish it was.

        Edit: sorry if I came off as a dick here, it’s just frustrating seeing the thing I want so bad (to leave) simplified so much. Especially if you didn’t grow up here.

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          Don’t give up. You can still do it. I don’t think the foreigners hate you. The hate the ones that can do it so easily. I believe in you.

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          and to add, most countries accepting immigrants from the USA, they only want people with PHD in stems. most people dont have one. since a very small group of college graduates even go to grad school anyways.

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          America is pretty much the only country in the world that has ever accepted the tired, the poor, and the huddled masses.

          No other country will accept a bunch of poor anyones with no money, bad health, and no unique and valuable skills. Not in any significant numbers that matter, at least.

          and thousands? moving to another country would take hundreds of thousands, minimum. The paperwork alone for moving to, and getting citizenship in the destination country would probably require a hundred thousand alone, between lawyers and paperwork, not to mention probably a year minimum of time. Assuming you would even get that far to begin with, given Americas reputation on the world stage at the moment. It’d probably be treated as well as Russians wanting to immigrate.

          Hell, even moving to another state is an expense most americans can not afford. Especially with the absurdity of rent prices being, in some places, as much as monthy minimum wage is, if not higher. Not to mention buying grossly price-inflated properties if you want to go the ownership route… anything that would be affordable will probably still need massive amounts of work to repair and make suitable for habitation.

          S’why it pisses me off every time when some ignorant dumbass just goes " well if you don’t like it, move! ", cause I can imagine everyone that says that probably has rich parents that have funded their every whim, because how else can just up and moving at a whim be possible for the average person?

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            Hell, even moving to another state is an expense most americans can not afford. Especially with the absurdity of rent prices being, in some places, as much as monthy minimum wage is, if not higher.

            OH MY GOD THANK YOU! So many people don’t get that when you’re in a shitty red state it’s REALLY REALLY hard to get out because someone making California wages has absolute way more than we do. Sure, they’re broke as shit there because the prices are high, and that sucks, but then if you’re coming from Missouri to California, the phrase “fucked” doesn’t even begin to cover it.

            It’s telling that I say I clawed my way out of Arkansas and Missouri was my “better”

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          I feel you, I’ve gone through similar problems but from the other side of the world. In case if you need advice:

          Consider eastern europe. From what I know, you’ll have 3 months-visa free, that’s more than enough to find a job in a big city even without any kind of connections. All you need is moving expenses and a few months of rent, and you’ll have a very good chances of getting into some kind of residency program (do research your options in advance)

          The language barrier will be a thing, but english will get you into many doors if you choose a big city. You can work on your language afterwards.

          You’ll fail a lot, it will be very stressful, you will be outsider in the eyes of many, but trust me your chances are much bigger than some people I know that have done a similar thing and succeeded. And after you succeed (and you will, if you try and don’t give up) the understanding that government’s power over you is not absolute will stay with you forever.

          All that said: I’m not saying you need to leave. I’m just saying that you can.

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          I feel you.

          I’m in Australia. If we turned fascist I would want to move but the logistics of doing that are very challenging.

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          You’re not wrong, but saying “most countries don’t want us” is very wrong, I’d say. We may not like USA very much but it doesn’t extent to random (non-MAGA) Americans; always kind, welcoming, and hard-working.

          And on a real not politically correct note, if European countries could take Americans instead of Moroccans, Afghans, and Syrians, I think virtually everyone would be happy with that solution

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        I am trying to talk my husband into moving. I can probably land the job in the EU I am interviewing for, but he does NOT want to move. He doesn’t want to leave the small amount of community we have. He doesn’t want to overreact in fear to this administration. He doesn’t want to give up our home and our lifestyle (the EU pays substantially less across many industries). Our parents are getting older and sicker; it’s hard to move abroad when you know there’s probably only a handful of years left with them, especially when you have children.

        I think the Internet discounts how difficult it can be to uproot.

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        Skills and education? Most Americans have neither of those things. We are a disposable people and that’s exactly what the corporate slaveowners want. We can’t escape because we are less valuable to other countries which means it’s easier to exploit us. What are we going to do about it, kill our masters? That’s not nice.

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    fuck, i prayed for this but it hit the wrong president