but if this is true and someone attacked a cop, being shot in the leg doesn’t seem like an unfair response

I think that’s the crux of it…

What’s the chance of a federal officer involved shooting where they show a reasonable reaction?

Like, it’s not exactly common, and even when obvious murder they immediately claim it was defensive.

It’s “boy who called wolf”, no one is going to believe them. Even if there’s video of a guy charging ICE, to say they’re not at fault in anyway is stripping all context from the situation.

Amazing how people who accuse progressives of not knowing how stuff works or whatever always forget that little detail

The sad part is, Ive explained it to them before.

I didn’t recognize them at first, but I blocked them at least once under that same user name from a different instance.

Like, they were just following me around calling me a commie for a while:

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=14783121

Looks like when they got banned from lemmy.ml, they suddenly wanted to make a new account for unrelated reasons.

It always starts out semi-rational, but when you respond rationally and calmly they immediately start making maga level insults. It’s probably why they have to keep making so many accounts.

Yes, a Democrat getting something through a 50/50 Senate is fucking impossible and has been for nearly two decades.

Then why did Biden say he could get the dem platform thru a Republican majority Senate if he was elected?

Like, let’s get that part cleared up, if it’s impossible as you say then Biden was either lying his ass off, or he was already so far gone mentally he really believed it.

In either case, how are you still insisting he is blameless?

Edit:

From 12/25/20

President-elect Joe Biden expressed optimism that he will be able to work with Republicans because of his years working alongside them, despite a sharply divided Congress.

“My leverage is, every senior Republican knows I’ve never once, ever, misled them,” Biden said on a telephone call Wednesday with several columnists, according to The New York Times. “I’ll never publicly embarrass them.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/531661-biden-on-working-with-senate-republicans-ill-never-publicly-embarrass-them/

Even into 2022

Speaking at a White House news conference, Biden vowed to work with Republicans and said he understood voters are frustrated despite Democrats’ surprisingly competitive campaign.

“The American people have made clear, I think, that they expect Republicans to be prepared to work with me as well,” Biden said. He also reiterated his intention to run for re-election in 2024 and said he would make a final decision early next year.

A White House official said Biden spoke by phone on Wednesday with Republican House leader Kevin McCarthy, who would be the leading candidate for House speaker if Republicans win a majority.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/democrats-look-curb-losses-republicans-us-congress-2022-11-09/

If it’s so obvious, why didn’t Biden notice?

Dems had no real power the entire administration

Really?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/117th_United_States_Congress

50/50 senate and a house majority for two years…

That wasn’t enough for the guy who campaigned as the “Senate whisperer” who could get Republicans on board for compromise long before we dreamed of a 50/50 split?

Are you telling me that asking Biden to get something thru a 50/50 Senate was impossible?

Then why the fuck did he lie so much about what he could do, and why aren’t you upset with him?

Like, logically you’re still saying it’s his fault.

Rodney King was 35 years ago…

And if you keep going back further, shit keeps getting worse.

To be clear tho, the problem was the moderate wing controlling the party, and that’s already been solved with the last DNC chair election. And if a nonbiased primary gets us a progressive, they get to name the DNC chair the next four years.

Shit was real bad during the great depression, but that’s what it took to get “moderate” voters onboard with progress. It’s why incremental improvement never works, once it’s “good enough” for one person, they stop fighting for what others want, even tho it took those other people to get “good enough” for the people who abandon them.

It’s one of the biggest reasons for our shitty cyclic history, people unwilling to finish the fight once personally appeased.

Yeah…

But that’s been true for a long time.

We tried convincing “moderates” that back when Biden was in office and we could fix shit.

But Biden wouldn’t, and now that shit is bad for suburban white moms too, suddenly it’s a brand new issue.

Like, great you finally realized it, but it would have been best if you didn’t ignore everyone telling you that your entire life.

Because then you could have helped us fix shit before it was bad for you personally

At the very least, learn that lesson moving forward:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came

I mean really, it was Biden and the Clinton’s doing the 96 telecom act…

They desperately needed something to point to that neoliberalism worked. Most people who supported neoliberalism did it because of:

1. The dotcom boom helping the economy.

2. The reduction in crime.

1 would have happened no matter what, but neoliberals took credit and said the only reason it happened was not taxing the wealthy.

2 also would have happened without their crime bill, the only effect was the same ever country saw a generation after banning leaded gas.

Neoliberalism has never worked, and it will never work. They just take credit for anything good that happens.

Well, at least some of them are realizing the nazis won’t stay on their side forever…

Why do people keep insisting they know about things and then immediately proving they have no idea what they’re talking about?

Federal employees aren’t the same as civilians.

The lesson here is:

Stop electing neoliberals like Newsom

And he was open to talk about it

Suuuuuuure he was lil buddy, sure he was

What evidence do we have, that the people who would conspire to do it then, aren’t doing it now.

The fact that it’s different people…

Was anyone punished?

Punished for what? What laws do you think were broken?

You say the Chair changed, but did it change to someone better?

Yes, Ken Martin. He ran Minnesota for a decade.

What about everyone else?

The vice chairs? I don’t know who you’re even talking about, but the chair has full power

What about the donors the DNC is beholden to?

Take their money and then just not do what they want… The only negative is they’re stop trying to buy us off, but take their money anyways, you’d be an absolute idiot not to when the fight is this serious.

Are you saying the DNC is clean and fair now?

I’ve typed it so much my thumbs are turning blue, at least you’re starting to wonder if what I keep saying is what I’m actually saying.

Yes, everyone is aware that happened…

That was a decade ago, the chair changes every 4 years…

If AOC becomes president, are you going to blame her for what’s trump doing now?

Obviously that wouldn’t make sense, but it’s the same thing you’re doing right now

Don’t let others strongman our county into the ground by convincing you to gobble down whatever rancid dick a political party throws at you.

…

We vote in primaries to avoid that.

I was trying to get people to vote in primaries, you are telling them to give up on the party and depressed primary turnout is how we get stuck with that shit in the general.

Like, if your honest about what you want, you’re literally working against it right now.

Checking your post history helped figure it out…

You’re ignoring that we have a dnc chair with a decade long track record of fair primaries, and that the traditional neoliberal threat is cutting off funds to state parties, and were a year deep into the largest reinvestire of wealth to state parties from DNC.

And what does “vote independent over party” have to do with anything when talking about how we finally have a non biased chair?

Like, what are you even talking about?

“every person has to decide when they have seen or had enough and are ready to fight for this country, its principles and its people, no matter the consequences.”

And for Bill, that’s being investigated personally.

He ain’t standing up for us, they’re demanding we stand up for them.

If either of them are guilty, and it looks like Bill is, then he should face investigation then prosecution if enough is uncovered.

You still have to show up and sit there…

You can’t just text “5a bro” and get out of it.

Like, it’s on a question by question basis, and he could pull a Lil Woody, but he still has to show up and say “I plead the fifth” everytime they ask a question.

Lil Woody at Young Thug trial:

https://youtu.be/3xpwZfeZMMo?t=37

The most important thing to take out of this:

He knows it’s bad for his inevitable presidential run he’s been focusing on, but he has to do what his wealthy donors want so they keep donating.

If he manages a first term, he’ll still do shit like this, because he needs his donors for term 2.

We need a legit grass roots candidate, because when they keep their donors happy, that’s doing what’s good for average Americans.

What do you think happens after you refuse because your think you’re being asked for something illegal?

What do I think or what do I know?

I’ve refused orders, been threatened with a legitimate mutiny case, saved people from being sacrificial goats…

If you want to ask questions that’s one thing, but I have no idea where any of your assumptions came from…

Like:

you’re fired with cause and you can say bye bye to any sort of unemployment insurance.

That’s just a wild opinion to have.

Have you ever even met anyone that works for the federal government in any capacity?