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  • or you could read the actual article to see what he really said:

    David has a very casual relationship with the truth,” he told host Symone Sanders Townsend. “And he has not been truthful on so many points that have been raised on this show.”

    The Pennsylvania state legislator added that he’s “frustrated” with the decision to hold the election again given that he received considerably more votes than necessary to clinch one of the vice chair positions, but he respects it.

    “But David’s first statement out of the gate was, here’s the Democratic Party doing some maniacal thing to push me out because of what he’s doing with his PAC,” Kenyatta said. “David knows that that is not true.”

    “And so for all of the people who have, like I had, really high hopes for what David could bring for this party and who are now looking at the message that he’s been pushing out and the emails that they have been getting from him about how he wants to reform the party, you have to be honest with people,” he added.

    The comments came after the Credentials Committee voted on Monday to support nullifying the results of the February election that made Hogg and Kenyatta vice chairs. The decision came as a result of a complaint that a losing candidate for a vice chair position had filed months earlier challenging the procedure in which the election was held.







  • The DNC is a dictatorship where the Chair can do whatever they want.

    There’s no “pretty much” in there, they’re beholden to no one with zero accountability for anything.

    The DNC chair who tried to shove Biden/Kamala down our throats is the same one that fucked up this vice chair election.

    But they lost, and we got a great DNC chair who will do the right thing and stay impartial.

    Continuing to blame him for things he literally had nothing to do with makes no logical sense.

    I’ve spent over 20 years hating the DNC and it feels like buzzaro world lately.

    But ya’ll legitimately didn’t just miss the battle, the war happened and you didn’t even notice.

    Bernie’s whole thing was it wasn’t about a person it was about a movement, and to take over the party we had to take over voting seats of the DNC…

    And, well, we did that.

    Mission Accomplished. We have a DNC chair who showed with their state party management they’ll run fair elections, and we can see in Minnesota that works out very well.

    We spent decades working towards a chair like Ken Martin, don’t fall for propaganda from the neoliberals that now is the time to stop supporting the DNC.



  • This has been a thing at least since the results were announced, it’s no secret or surprise to anyone who pays attention. And I get that most people don’t pay attention to this level of detail

    But Hogg has known it.

    Everytime hes made a public comment he knew this was coming. A cynic would say it’s all a media show and to pressure the DNC to keep him.

    The thing is, the DNC were almost always guaranteed to keep both of them, there’s zero reason they’d vote differently.

    It’s completely blowing up this bullshit were the DNC chair simply said “the DNC should be impartial in primaries” and people (including Hogg) keep wanting to twist that into something we should be mad about instead of something I’ve personally wished for since 2007.

    We got the impartial DNC we’ve always needed

    Why the fuck would we burn it down? Lots of the incumbents Hogg is complaining about can not win fair primaries.

    Now more than ever we need progressives voting in Dem primaries but now all of a sudden everyone wants to turn against the DNC?

    Do you honestly not understand why immediately after Ken Martin became chair the media started running articles about how terrible the DNC is?

    You honestly think the billionaires had a change of heart and they’re not just doing propaganda?



  • Kenyatta is the other DNC vice chair who has to redo the election. I strongly suggest the full article, but here’s the important bit for people who won’t click the link:

    “David has a very casual relationship with the truth,” he told host Symone Sanders Townsend. “And he has not been truthful on so many points that have been raised on this show.”

    The Pennsylvania state legislator added that he’s “frustrated” with the decision to hold the election again given that he received considerably more votes than necessary to clinch one of the vice chair positions, but he respects it.

    “But David’s first statement out of the gate was, here’s the Democratic Party doing some maniacal thing to push me out because of what he’s doing with his PAC,” Kenyatta said. “David knows that that is not true.”

    “And so for all of the people who have, like I had, really high hopes for what David could bring for this party and who are now looking at the message that he’s been pushing out and the emails that they have been getting from him about how he wants to reform the party, you have to be honest with people,” he added.



  • Kenyatta is the other DNC vice chair who has to redo the election. I strongly suggest the full article, but here’s the important bit for people who won’t click the link:

    “David has a very casual relationship with the truth,” he told host Symone Sanders Townsend. “And he has not been truthful on so many points that have been raised on this show.”

    The Pennsylvania state legislator added that he’s “frustrated” with the decision to hold the election again given that he received considerably more votes than necessary to clinch one of the vice chair positions, but he respects it.

    “But David’s first statement out of the gate was, here’s the Democratic Party doing some maniacal thing to push me out because of what he’s doing with his PAC,” Kenyatta said. “David knows that that is not true.”

    “And so for all of the people who have, like I had, really high hopes for what David could bring for this party and who are now looking at the message that he’s been pushing out and the emails that they have been getting from him about how he wants to reform the party, you have to be honest with people,” he added.



  • For fucks sake…

    As a result of a challenge from Kalyn Free, a losing candidate in the election, the committee decided that the election was not conducted properly and that it violated the DNC’s gender parity rules. If the full body of the DNC rules the same way, it will force Hogg and fellow Vice Chair Malcolm Kenyatta to run for election again later this year.

    Hogg acknowledged the panel’s stated reason for the vote, but said in a statement that it is “impossible to ignore the broader context of my work to reform the party which loomed large over this vote.”

    1. The old DNC, who was corrupt and neoliberal, fucked up and let Hogg and another vice chair win via combined ballot

    2. Combined ballots aren’t allowed under DNC rules for this.

    3. A loser of the race immediately complained.

    4. It’s been going thru a long process, and a DNC committed rules a full DNC vote to determine if the Vice chair election should be redone.

    But the most obvious reason this isnt what Hogg keeps shouting it is, he isn’t the only one effected by this, there’s two vice chair in this situation:

    Democratic National Committee (DNC) Vice Chair Malcolm Kenyatta slammed his fellow vice chair, David Hogg, on Wednesday, disputing the reason the gun control activist has said is why they may need to run for their positions again.

    Kenyatta argued in an interview on MSNBC that he has tried to ignore what Hogg has been saying recently to avoid party infighting and division, but Hogg’s statement after the DNC’s Credentials Committee voted in favor of holding a new vice chair election “pushed me over the edge.”

    “David has a very casual relationship with the truth,” he told host Symone Sanders Townsend. “And he has not been truthful on so many points that have been raised on this show.”

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5302200-malcolm-kenyatta-david-hogg-dnc-vice-chair-election-redo/

    I agree with High on every bit of policy I’ve heard from him, I agree that a lot of incumbent Dems need voted out…

    But he’s handle this specific situation like trump would and everyone keeps eating it up and ignoring the young Black man going thru the same thing and everyone else trying to explain what is actually happening




  • One day they’ll run out of immigrants…

    And then other groups will be targeted. If your family has been here longer than America has been a country, you still got your citizenship because you were born here.

    If trump can take it from immigrants, he can declare any targeted group is no longer citizens either.

    That’s not even getting into how they’re trying to tie “allegiance” in out of thin air.

    Not voting trump could be labeled as not showing allegiance to America, and boom, no citizenship for you.

    Shits getting fucking serious



  • If the Democratic Party does not wish to do the right thing even after they have been begged to by some people, then I think it’s time for us to consider punishing them and showing them, in action, you’re going to lose the election. We’re going to make sure you lose.

    Minnesota has a lot of politicians willing to stand up to genociders, and agrees with the Dem voting base on a much wider range of issues.

    Over the last six months, Minnesota Democrats enshrined abortion rights, established paid family and medical leave, restored the voting rights of ex-felons, extended voting access, invested $1 billion into affordable housing, imposed background checks on private gun transfers, initiated a red-flag warning system that confiscates firearms from those judicially deemed a threat to themselves or others, legalized recreational marijuana, created a refuge program for trans people denied gender-affirming care in other states, mandated that utilities go carbon-free by 2040, provided a refundable tax credit (i.e., cash aid) to low-income households with children, prohibited non-compete clauses in labor contracts, barred employers from holding compulsory anti-union meetings, strengthened workplace protections for meatpacking and Amazon workers, empowered teachers unions to bargain over educator-to-student ratios, empaneled a statewide board to set minimum labor standards for nursing-home workers, directed $2.58 billion into improved infrastructure, made school breakfast and lunch free from all Minnesota K-through-12 students, and increased taxes on corporations and high earners, among other things.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/06/why-are-minnesota-democrats-so-progressive.html

    They were able to make it to the general because the Minnesota state Dem party didn’t put their finger on the scales.

    As of February the old chair for Minnesota is now the chair of the national DNC.

    So…

    Keep pressuring the DNC, but for fucks sake I wish people understood we already fought the battles and won the war over the party.

    A neutral DNC that won’t pick sides means no one will be holding progressives back.

    We don’t need to be yelling at the DNC right now we need to be informing voter that shit has changed already.