A family says their newborn son nearly bled to death and is fighting for his life after he was circumcised at a New York City hospital.
Tim and Gabrielle Groth said their son, Cole, underwent the circumcision at NewYork-Presbyterian Morgan Stanley Children’s Hospital in Manhattan, where he was born on March 31.
Male genital mutilation.
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I just want to clarity- You’re cheering on the potential death of a newborn child?
Looking at your last statement and looking through the web i have to agree. However don’t you think you yourself have become a little bit too infatuated with the topic? Like don’t get me wrong, circumcision needs to go the fuck away (apart from very, very, very few medical reasons). Genital mutilation is however nothing sexual, but mostly cultural and religious (and i know you know that).
Stop circumcising children. Let men decide if they want to be circumcised when they are willing up to consent at the age of 18. I guarantee circumcision will drop by 95% or more.
And if that’s the case, then don’t fucking force this on an infant.
Until about a year ago or something I didn’t even know that it’s such a common practice in the USA. For me it always was just a religios thing of Jews and for some rare medical cases where the foreskin opening is too tight.
But now I know that it’s apparently considerd normal? dafuq
Be assured it’s defenetly not in germany unless you are jewish.
Yeah, it’s said to have some kind of nebulous health benefits here.
It really goes back to the turn of the 20th century, when all kinds of health gurus claimed it would curb masturbation (which they blamed for a variety of ills), but nobody says that anymore.
…or Muslim. But yes, the US has this horrible practice of mutilating all kids. Just like some third-world countries.
Nah, just the male children.
Fortunately it’s been in decline since the late 70s, but it still shouldn’t be done
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Crazy idea, don’t do cosmetic surgery on a baby?
Luckily is was almoat, it happens every year. It’s rare but it possible to bleed to death from this
There’s a really easy way to tell whether or not you should decide to circumcise a penis. First, check if it’s your penis. If it isn’t your penis, don’t circumcise it BECAUSE THAT IS NOT YOUR DICK AND YOU DO NOT GET TO DECIDE WHICH FLESH BELONGS AND WHICH DOESN’T ON IT.
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My bro had one for medical reason, there’s no problem with that even though we usually dont do it here
I had a foreskin issue where I couldn’t pull it back. Got it removed around age 10. Wasn’t fun but now my captain doesn’t wear his cap to dinner. Looks normal too.
I assumed they were specifically talking about babies. If there’s a genuine issue then it makes sense, but I don’t know of anything that’s diagnosable at birth that would require circumcision.
I know a lot of young adults also get the procedure for the same reason as you. I was in your boat until probably my mid-teens before things fixed themselves, but it clearly doesn’t work out that way for some.
Maybe we should stop routine elective cosmetic penis surgery on infants?
It’s not elective. They baby can’t elect to having part of their genitals cut off.
Stop with the “cosmetic surgery” and call it what it is…genital mutilation!
It’s both. Parents want their babies to have designer penises, so they pay doctors to mutilate them for aesthetic reasons. It is mutilation, and it is cosmetic surgery.
Awful parents.
Stop mutilating your children.
Stupid fucking parents.
Why do they still perform such barbaric rites in the 21st century in the first place?
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I mean look who’s sitting in the oval office. Science has progressed but most humans have not.
Yet theyre against mutilating genitals when it comes to trans people.
Yeah, the first time I heard of people protesting against “mutilating children’s genitals [in North America]”, I thought it was a protest against circumcision. I thought, “Wow, we’re finally moving society forward!”
…nope. It was backwards again.
As sick as it is, personal preference
Not for the newborn it isn’t. Something as personal as your own genetals should be your own personal choice, but in this instance the owner of the penis gave no consent.
It is usually not the personal preference of the person operated on.
There are a lot of medical decisions that simply should not be left in the hands of parents, and this is one of them, if not the score leader.
It’s not a medical decision. The procedure is completely unnecessary and unwarranted without a diagnosis.
Yeah—personal preference. As in, not the preference of the fucking parents.
In parenting classes in my liberal area, the nurses will say “I’m required to tell you that circumcision has medical benefits”. Then they fume how it’s based off bad research and cut themselves short. “However it’s not like your son will be lined up for a nude photo. You can break the cycle of trauma”. I’m lucky to live here.
My partner gets mad when I point out that the same “medical benefits” can be said for FGM.
Damn you have some good nurses. In my liberal area the best they did was mention that it’s optional (literally some people think it’s not). We also have liberal relatives who did it to their son just so he’d “look like dad.” Wtf
As a Jewish person im absolutely ashamed that my people still practice mutilation. When a tradition causes severe medical problems it should not continue.
It’s not even strictly a Jewish thing, as much as it is just an American thing at this point. My parents were only mildly Christian and got me circumcised at the recommendation of the doctor. They didn’t really think much about it because being circumcised is just “the norm”. My dad is circumcised, and my mom said she wanted to make sure I looked like my father (why she expected me to be catching so many glances of dad-dong in life, I’ll never know).
That said, whether or not it should be, a circumcision is still a very routine procedure, so it’s kinda astounding that they botched it so badly. Hopefully the kid makes it without any lasting damage.
Why do parents keep choosing to cut up the genitals of their baby boys?
Is it because the dad had his penis cut up for him, and therefore he must do it to his son because “nothing is wrong with his dick”?
In America at least most people don’t really consider it until the kid is born. Then in the post birth rush of things happening someone asks if you want to circumcise your kid. Most Dads will say “well I’m circumcised, so I guess” and his dad said “well I’m circumcised, so I guess” and his dad said “well I’m circumcised, so I guess” and his dad said “HE IS BORN OF SIN! We must circumcise him to discourage sinful behavior!”
Most people really don’t think too deeply about most things, try not to over think it
In the US, it’s very often the mother’s decision, because the nurses will ask her. Fathers mostly get very little say in the medical care of their children in the US at nearly any age if the mother is present.
You’re correct, I was skipping details to make a joke. While ultimately the mother does deside I think most Moms (who are a mess from just giving birth) turn to the nearest penis owner they trust for a decision on the matter and that’s usually the dad
Don’t forget the people who think they have to do it because the sky daddy they invented told them to.
It’s due to lack of education about not cutting it and indoctrination of what has been societal norms. It’s much less nefarious than you think on the part of many parents. Most people don’t generally think about this ahead of time and research it.
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