You know what, the amount of energy you’re putting into defending your misguided position here tells me you’re not very interested in this conversation, and I don’t care to expend any more energy with someone like that. Suffice it to say, my previous statement still stands: people who hold your position have more empathy for criminals than their victims. I’m glad I don’t live in a world where we let criminals off with a slap on the wrist and just tell their victims that punishing them would be cruel and pointless.

I will not be responding to you further.

No, it’s really not.

Then you should already know the answer to your previous question.

Lame answer.

Not always, no. Not everyone feels guilty when they harm others, and even if they do, that’s not nearly enough of a punishment to do justice.

Yes, it is. That’s why we have punishments in the form of prison sentences. You harm other people? You get put in adult time out for a portion of your life.

How would you feel? Name the feeling.

You really haven’t studied ethics at all, have you? There’s tons of philosophical literature about this stuff. Do some research.

But it’s cruel, which is why we don’t do it that way.

Ah, yes, the “punishment is pointless” argument. Look, no one is arguing against more rehabilitation and safety in prisons, but criminal behavior must incur punishment, especially when it seriously harms other people. Why? Because when people (including the families of those people) are harmed, they expect justice, and part of that justice is knowing that the person responsible for harming you will suffer a consequence. This is not an eye for an eye; we make certain punishments are reasonable, proportionate, and not cruel. But when there’s no punishment, people do not feel justice has been done and some of those people will seek to punish criminals themselves (vigilante justice). Having a neutral third party implement justice is always better than when victims do it.

People who make this “punishment is pointless” argument never really think about the people criminals have made suffer. I know you think you do, but you don’t. You’re caught up in how bad the prison system is, and you’re right to be upset, but not to the exclusion of empathy for victims of crime.

Let me put it to you this way. Say you’re a parent, and you’re pushing your baby in a stroller, when a drunk driver hits you. You’re seriously injured, requiring surgery, months of rehab, and perhaps physical disabilities that will never go away. Your baby is dead. Now, that drunk driver isn’t sent to prison; instead, they’re put in a rehabilitation center, where they receive substance abuse counseling, therapy, etc. The accident makes them realize they have a problem, and within a year, his therapists are convinced he’s safe to be released back into society (with ongoing outpatient treatment and monitoring for five years after that). Their recovery is genuine and they do not reoffend. Within three years, they’re living a happy life. Meanwhile, three years on, you’re still dealing with chronic pain related to the accident and are still in grief counseling over the loss of your child. If you found out how the person who did that to you was doing, how would you feel?

People deserve to suffer for causing the suffering of others. Like it or not, it’s part of the unspoken social contract.

They mean using the police budget to hire social workers and other social services providers.

She didn’t get pardoned, her sentence got shortened. There’s a difference.

I understand that. I simply meant that I don’t think anyone should have the power to just overrule the courts and pardon someone or commute their sentence. It defeats the purpose of having a justice system.

Pardoning should not be a power of any official.

Doing the things a particle can.

Ahhh…makin’ me homesick.

Bike riding is not a viable alternative for many people with cars.

But do you love it because she hates it?

I found a dandy lion.

To Trump, these people are “losers” because they’re disabled.

This is garbage. It appeals to a far left constituency while alienating the moderate left people who are just trying to make their small businesses work. There has got to be a compromise line between these two groups. This is not how you win elections.