https://lemmy.ml/comment/15511694

The relevant GOP memo on this makes very clear the intent, as it explicitly names puberty blockers as a target. Top on page 4 in the pdf

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/internal-house-gop-memo-reveals-what-republicans-celebrating-895b-defense-bill

Republicans passed this SPECIFICALLY to deny even the most basic trans care while letting them argue that they’re only protecting kids. The Republicans who WROTE it are better positioned to tell you what it will do than you sitting here trying to piece it together from random quotes.

We’re going to have to agree to disagree here. Especially your last point. To be honest it REALLY sounds like you support the law, and if you cared about factual reporting you would have also released the policy memo that shows Republicans want to use this to stop puberty blockers which are very basic trans care. So you’re not doing this for “truth”

Cost in terms of TIME is the MAIN factor we should judge our politicians on. What did they spend their 2/4 years on and how much did they accomplish? This addition to the military funding bill is a complete waste. A shameful waste. I don’t know who would argue cost and time isn’t a measure for the quality of politicians.

I’m in a country with universal healthcare and laws play very little role in the practice of medicine. Doctors have a professional association they have to be licensed by. This association does the job of ensuring doctors act in line with public interest. I’m sure Americans have the same thing. Likely one for each state. Which brings me to your last point. It’s pretty intellectually dishonest to frame doctors as mad scientist lobotomists barely restrained by a set of laws. In reality doctors independently look out for the public interest. If they did what they were legally allowed to without morals we’d all be fucked. So no, laws AREN’T what “protects us” from doctors.

I don’t think what you’re SAYING matches what you BELIEVE. Your use of exaggeration, incomplete information, and outlier anecdotal stories paints a clear pattern of intentional deception under a thin veneer of “intellectual superiority”

Looking through your comment history you’ve got a lot of backwards conservative/incel beliefs like “sex workers are predatory”, “tax dollars not spent to directly benefit YOU are a waste”, I could go on. The point is it’s pretty clear “trans kids don’t deserve healthcare” is one of them and you’re just getting better at hiding these beliefs to avoid downvotes.

And I’m sure you’re going to come out and say I’m exaggerating your points or misrepresenting you. I’m not. You talk like a conservative, you say we need laws like this to protect us from doctors experimenting and lobotomizing us. But you don’t care that laws aren’t what’s doing the protecting in those situations. And when someone points out your framing of doctors and medicine vs politicians is unfair you’ll say “I didn’t say ALL doctors blah blah blah, you’re making a straw man”. Human speech includes context and implication, to argue it doesn’t is intellectually dishonest. Conservatives always IMPLY things because then they can say “well I didn’t SAY that”. You did. Implication is speech, that’s high school English.

Yes, so you’re likely right that it’s just for show and it’s unlikely to affect trans children in any meaningful way. But WHY do we need this? If this was never something that cost money why are we spending the time of our most expensive politicians in this? Furthermore why are politicians meddling in medicine? What do they know about trans care or any other medical care? The last president thought we should inject bleach, let’s not dismiss the fact these people have no place in medicine.

They wasted a huge amount of the time they had left and millions of tax payer dollars to pass a budget restriction that will save no money and to pass legislation that converts a medical decision into a rigid law. Best of all the only thing this ACTUALLY accomplished is to make sure that trans kids and trans people feel alienated and attached.

There is no defending this egregious waste of money, idiotic meddling of politics in medicine, and this targeted decision to make trans people feel unsafe and threatened.

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Wait a minute… If I click through the cross-posts I end up right back here… Where did the season’s greason’s start!!!

What about high energy use industry running only during excess supply. Making aluminum, desalination, even training AI models. There are a lot of energy guzzlers that don’t NEED to run 24/7. Why can’t they be a sink for excess power?

Researchers spend $X trying to poison groundwater, thankfully foiled by bacteria.

Lol. Latino countries elect women as presidents all the time. The US NEVER votes for women, even when they’re running against a disgusting rapist. Looking at the statistics it’s always white people stopping women from being elected. But it’s the Latino minority who are misogynist?

Wild reach! That’s some massive prejudice you’ve got under the hood there.

It’s not strange that these advancements happen only during war. During war the government and the rich finally need living human bodies to throw at eachother so they invest in us, and are willing to take risks on those of us with good ideas. If we take control of our money and our government we could do that ALL THE TIME.

Damn greedy dragons hoarding their bullshit “wealth”

You’re probably right. The Russian casualties are something that will drain their economy for decades. European move away from Russian oil and gas also is a long term consequence.

I’m just feeling negative about the world when I see people fighting and dying for democracy and freedom contrasted by people who can’t even be bothered to vote to fight for the same.

They only have to last until comrade Trump takes the reins. After that you can kiss support to Ukraine and sanctions on Russia goodbye. Trump owes hundreds of millions to Russian oligarchs, they’re going to get their money’s worth.

What a fucking dispicable result. Fucking weak Americans rather stay home than fight for democracy because they might have to vote for a black woman.

It’s going wherever the fuck they want. Stephen Colbert did a while segment about how the main purpose of Super Pacs is funneling secret money off the books. Political stuff is just the cover.

https://www.vox.com/2014/6/4/5776676/stephen-colbert-super-pac-study

Well it has all the info to completely dox anyone who testified against the attorney child rapist general. Magas would literally kill them where they sleep.

I think this is cool. Many of these are accessible and cheap. Most of these are “do you get out of the house and spend time on something” which is obvious. Looks like most hobbies are attractive, like even anime and cosplay have 1 out of 4 women who is into that and finds it attractive.

I also love the huge correlation between the top 15 and what men think is the top 15, the main difference is that men didn’t think hobbies were attractive enough.

I’d love to see the reversed list for what men think are attractive hobbies for a woman!

What movie is this? Looks like a good time!

You stop that by restricting who you can vote for, not who can vote. No felons could be a nice one.

To dam a river you flood the upstream portion to create a height difference in the river that your can use to generate electricity.

This flooding submerges MASSIVE amounts of vegetation which undergoes anaerobic decomposition releasing tons of methane. It’s a one time thing, but it’s actually up there when you include the expected lifetime of a hydro plant, and the fact that methane is a very powerful greenhouse gas.

Bootlicking bastard. How dare you defend the cops for handcuffing this poor mother whose crime is apparently letting her kid have a childhood? “Peaceful interactions turn violent”? Pizza delivery drivers are more likely to have violent and fatal interactions with the public than cops, should they handcuff us “just in case” before handing us our order? God you bootlickers disgust me. Not ONE of your positions is upheld by facts. It’s all “feelings”, feelings like “the cop felt unsafe so he unloaded 2 full clips into a black kid playing tag”. It’s all a big tower of fascist feelings.

52% of white women voted for Trump. The Republican dating pool is large and won’t be affected by 4Ds.

Leftist women joining 4D just means fewer LEFTIST relationships and fewer leftist families.

This was a race between a B student and an orangutan throwing feces everywhere. We’re spending all our time talking about the questions the B student got wrong, but in the meantime we voted the orangutan as valedictorian and all he did was smear shit on the test and try to hump the microphone stand.

No her mistakes aren’t the problem. The problem is we’re willing to elect a monkey to shit on everything and blame an average decent person for losing.

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Fuck…

A class of kids would TOTALLY elect a monkey… We’re just old high schoolers… We’re so fucked…