• did_you_find_violets@lemmy.worldOP
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    Ariana Grande’s super fans will shamelessly argue that she’s healthy, nothing’s wrong, and that the elephant in the room shouldn’t even be mentioned🫩

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    Some people in the comments need to read up on what eating disorders are and fix their hearts

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      Lemmy (and reddit and all of social media) tend to be pretty cruel to anyone who is famous whenever they slip.

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        Being as rich as she is is already “slipping” to me. I’m sorry, but I don’t feel particularly bad for her.

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      I’ve got sympathy for her going through anorexia, but that doesn’t really absolve her from being a generally kinda shitty person. She doesn’t deserve anorexia but she’s still just another rich asshole fuckin up the youth.

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    When we saw Wicked, I turned to my wife and said “someone needs to fix that girl a sandwich.”

    Seriously though, it’s sad to see. No healthy person is that skinny.

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    Ariana Grande is a shitty and classist person, and she’s dying.

    It’s baffling to see so many people, not even able to live paycheck to paycheck, foam at the mouth when it’s correctly pointed out she’s dangerously starving. Her dumbfuck cult of a fanbase are witnessing her commit suicide via ED, and scream at anyone pointing it out as “body shaming”.

    I mean, this is the same bitch who said she hates Americans because they’re fat (something that correlates to poverty). She also has used her body to sell countless products to young impressionable girls who will never be able to achieve her body size without also engaging in starvation.

    This isn’t just a return to the “heroine chic” EDs of the early 2000s, this is going far past that. This is the “3 minutes from dying” chic. This will have dire consequences on young people’s psyche for a whole generation.

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    Don’t particularly care, except for that she is essentially just promoting anorexia to her fanbase of young girls who don’t know better, which is pretty fucked up because Ariana should know better.

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      The thing is, she most definitely doesn’t know better right now in the depths of anorexia. Anorexia warps your sense of reality and self, and it’s also a competitive disorder (hence, the “flaunting” many people suffering from it do). I mean, in the music video, there’s a note that says “couldn’t hurt to lose a few pounds” while she looks like that, so she’s obviously not in her right mind. I blame her management, executives, team, family, and friends for enabling her.

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        If you watch the full video though she’s obviously “opposed” to the critique she’s getting from the judges (the note), as she goes full Carrie on them in the end. The other girls celebrate her for it. My takeaway is that the pressure put on women is the men’s fault, and women want to be free of it.

        And I’m guessing the contents of the notes are real comments she’s gotten over the years, not self-written notes to her current self.

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          I watched it, and I just don’t buy this explanation when, in the same video, she’s purposely wearing stuff meant to accentuate her bones and figure. The “industry critique” aspect of the music video just falls flat. Someone on another platform said it better than I could: the fact that in a gore/horror-themed MV Ariana’s real-life body is the scariest part says it all. Ironically, I think the best “industry critique” is one she didn’t even mean, when she reads the innocuous note, “You bloom wherever you’re planted” (you become famous if, when, where, and how the ones at the top want you to).

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            So the video accentuates how thin she is, then shows her negative response to the group that told her to be thinner… that all sounds consistent with criticising that kind of commentary to me.

            I’m not going to comment on how thin she is, but that explanation seems the most likely, else why would the note be in there at all?

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              No, it’s the fact that the video glamorizes how emaciated she is, which is incompatible with seeing “could lose a few pounds” as a negative, since she’s flaunting the end stage of being skinny. You can’t critique something you’re the personification of and trying to paint as normal. “Couldn’t hurt to lose a few pounds” is exactly the deadly lie anorexics tell themselves because of the delusional thinking fueled by their disorder.

              But it’s clear to me by now that you’re not engaging in good faith.

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          I feel like women critique the physical appearance of their peers much more than men do.

          Sure, men prop up this system of oppressive beauty standards but women ultimately sustain and engage with it.

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    Once the body uses up fat reserves it starts using muscle. Indiscriminately.

    Including the heart.

    This is why so many people with eating disorders die from cardiovascular complications.

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    i feel pity for her of course. also, thanks lemmy o grant me (a 47yo dude, basically listening to either deadmau5 or Motörhead) a peek into today’s pop stars, so that I can have an awareness discussion on this body image thing with my 14yo pop culture sensitive daughter. i don’t think she’s got a body image problem, but good to nail it now.

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    We’re at the point in the documentary, shortly before the person’s death, where people are asking why no one did anything

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        People have been calling her out. Just the people near her just tell her what she wants to hear so they keep getting paid.

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          It’s actually insane that’s all the same person. I would assume that those are pictures of like 4 different people.

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            I know the phrase “It’s ok to be White” is a loaded phrase with a lot of bad history, but maybe someone should tell Ariana that.

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              eh looks the opposite to me. 2011 looks like a lot of white foundation or whatever tf it’s called. after that she seems to have eased up on whitening herself. except 2021 obv.

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            Up to 2020 looks like becoming an adult and losing kid cheeks to me. I won’t comment on 2021, because yikes (plus her makeup obscures her facial structure), and 2023 looks like she’s too thin or got work done. More recent pictures make it more obvious that she’s getting thinner and thinner though.

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              2018 was the red flag. She could be accused of masking as Hispanic before, but that could be explained by a change in diet and a summer tan. 2018 is the hard, The Emperor Has No Cloth moment where everyone knew something was wrong, but wouldn’t say anything to her face about it.

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                Yeah, 2018 is fucked up and here likely indicates some sort of psychological issue, but there’s a long tradition of white people exploiting other people’s cultures for financial gain. It’s not an automatic red flag for mental illness for me in general.

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                  Yeah it’s sad that she has issues and that’s what the post is about, but have you heard about how “white people” are always exploiting everyone’s else’s “culture”?

                  For financial gain no less?

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            i think until 2020 it’s just aging and makeup. maybe some weight loss but lots of people age like that. after that though i don’t even know what’s happening

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    She’s an easily influenced influencer. Remember her licking doughnuts as a trend? She was with “friends” at the time.

    Similar to Will Smith, she’s a rich kid with a ton of insecurities and lots of bad acquaintances. She’ll keep making mistakes because that kind of negativity leads your thoughts astray easily and you need something grounded to keep you going. I’m not sure she has that something to hold on to.

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        Guess Jaden could fit too, but I meant Will himself when he became rich from Prince of Bel Air. He did some silly things back then after gaining his independence (day) and almost lost it all.

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    I don’t understand horny Hollywood executives who hold a lot of power… like why is their fetish bony, malnutrition women.

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    I’m been trying to figure out what she did to her face for the longest and I finally found out she had several different face lift operations. Brow lift being the one that made her eyes look dead inside. She definitely has some form of body dismorphia

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      I mean that’s been obvious since the start. Since around when she was on nickelodeon she was on the eating disorder side of Tumblr. Having been famous for long unfortunately is only going to make that worse since beauty standards are so extremely fucked, especially for those in the public eye

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      No one cares about her, she’s just their cash cow. The second pic is from her newest music video, “Petal,” released a few days ago. The fact that a whole team approved a video that’s blatantly pro-ana content (body checking/bonespo) for a mainstream pop star with a young, female fanbase is disgusting. Eating disorders are socially contagious, but I guess all publicity is good publicity to them.

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        No argument form me, with the introduction of GLPs we have circled back to promoting anorexia to the next generation of young women. Obviously the publisher don’t care about that, same as with any big corporation. The only thing that matters is line going up.