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If its anything like the Play Store, the vast majority of these new slop apps are just shady copies of existing apps designed to milk their popularity for AD money, or worse ship malware onto your device.

Never played Pokémon Go myself, partly because it felt weirdly invasive - and now I’m kinda glad to know I was somewhat justified

Calling Starmer’s Government left-wing is ironic considering by most accounts he’s proven himself to be slightly progressive Tory in a red tie

That’s a very long way of saying the same thing as @[email protected] did.

And while I don’t think you’re wrong on the binary model of sex being disinclusive of intersex people and those with sex-related chromosomal disorders - that is not the same thing as saying biological sex is a lie.

Pinning down a precise definition of sex is incredibly difficult for biologists, the best definitions we have are a vague cloud of all of these vaguely related things.

Sex is the physiological result of sex chromosome differentiation. By conventional standards that’s “XY is male, XX is female”. Now we both know that model doesn’t cover everybody, but saying we have no definition because you disagree with the definition given is just ignorant.

For any rigorous definition we come up with, that actually produces a distinct number of sexes, we can throw some curveballs at it that require the writing of exceptions and special clauses and caveats. We end up oversimplifying dozens of different variables into these broad categories that then lead to worse outcomes for the people who deviate from the dogmatic oversimplifications. And if we actually count each intersex condition and permutation and stage of transsexual transition as its own sex, then we end up with thousands of different sexes, and next to no predictive utility! It’s a nightmare!

Saying that you end up with no predictive utility because a model only covers +99% of cases is also ignorant.

Every model that ever exists will always have caveats and exceptions. Simplification of anything comes with inaccuracies that end up needing to be addressed…

My philosophy is: If you can’t create a model that is accurate, fair, and useful… maybe you’re trying to create the wrong kind of model. Go back to the drawing board and reevaluate your foundational assumptions. Come back with a different core idea.

… And your take on this sounds an awful lot like the old GOP proposition of “if its not 100% perfect its not worth doing”.

A model that covers +99% of cases, but requires caveats and special attention towards intersex and trans people is better than no model at all.

Especially when it comes to very really physiological differences that can get you killed with inadequate medical attention.

What we have ended up doing with the idea of biological sex would be absurd in any other scientific field. Imagine if chemists said “There are two elements: Hydrogen and helium. Together they make up 99% of all atoms, and everything else is a defect.” That’s what we’re doing with sex.

That’s a poor argument - as from an objective perspective, that’s entirely true.

If you randomly took an atom from the universe right now, an overwhelmingly high majority of the time it’d be hydrogen or helium.

Basically all of Chemistry is dedicated to covering the exceptions to that rule because we’re almost entirely made if the exceptions. But from the perspective of Hydrogen and Helium we’re biased.

I do understand what you’re trying to say, and I do agree fundamentally that a purely binary model is disinclusive of the people that don’t fit - and that is shitty - but throwing out the entire idea of biological sex instead of suggesting that we need to be teaching a more spectral model of sex (like we’ve started doing with gender) I respectfully disagree with.

Sure. But saying “biological sex isn’t a strict binary, and is dismissive of intersex people and those with sex-related chromosomal disorders” isn’t the same thing as saying “biological sex is a lie”.

In a the same sense that “the universe is majoratively hydrogen and helium” (which is true) isn’t the same thing as saying “the universe is either hydrogen or helium”.

By being overly reductive you’re making a true statement into a false statement.

I’m sorry you’re gonna need to provide a bit more citation on these.

• Biological sex exists

What do you mean by this?

Biological sex - as in physiological characteristics borne of sex chromosome differentiation - is absolutely real, and playing about with that could quite literally get you killed from a medical care perspective (as in wrong dose of drugs, etc.).

Now if you want to discuss whether sex is truly binary, that’s much more debatable - especially due to the existence of intersex people, and those with sex-related chrosomal disorders.

• 99.99% of your body isn’t empty space

If you’re talking about atoms in the body being 99.99% empty space, then by that technicality everything that exists is 99.99% empty space… Which isn’t so much an interesting lie, as it is just an interesting physics fact.

• Objects exist

I’m not calling this one out, I just want to know what technicality this is borne out of.

• The Beatles were any good

This one’s just offensive. Or that is what I would say if I didn’t also think they’re a bit overrated.

Damn, that neck part is doing basically all of the first 180° of bending. Rest of the spine be caught slacking.

Oh I’m sure Keir Starmer and his cabinet will take good notice of this report and do something about

Yeah, no. Given how his cabinet have handled this whole “digital independence” thing so far, I wouldn’t make any bets on them actually listening.

Well if we know anything about the GOP, that baseless accusation means they’re actively trying to steal the California Primaries

Its a very damning line to retract, but I don’t think anybody is surprised at this point

“We encourage our engineers to vigorously test and critique our internal tools; that candid feedback loop, even via our internal meme generator, is vital to how we build technology”

Google listening to employee feedback:

Exactly what I was thinking. The US is literally renowned for slavery-esque prison labour, yet Trump is the one trying to put an anti-slavery tariff on other countries?

I sincerely hope other countries do call the fake-tanned paedophile out on yet another tariff related grift.

Bottom guy has the right idea. I have never understood the idea of wanting a big and flashy engagement/wedding ring. It’s a symbol of commitment you’re meant to wear for life, not a fashion piece.

That kitten represents a huge amount of commitment, clearly more than enough for lucky lady, so the vain judgemental asses can STFU.

New being unfamiliar. LLMs can’t just abstractly create things they don’t have training data for the same way a human can. They’re parrots that rely on training data to “create” anything, and that’s why I said they’re good at creating copies and mash-ups.

A good example is DALI being famously unable to depict an empty glass of wine because its training data didn’t have one. OpenAI had to feed it training data of empty wine glasses to undo that.

That need for base data to make literally anything is the whole reason why AI companies have been scraping the ever living shit out of the internet, to give as much training data to mash-up as is possible. The more data it has, the more convincingly unique its output can be.

Iterate was a poor word to use, but you’ll have to chalk that up to me being a fallible human. What I mean is that it can’t extrapolate from training data to make something unique. Everything it makes you will always be cobbled together from the data it has, because LLMs only know what things look like, not what they are as concepts.

Hell you want to see AI not understanding what good code actually is - look at MicroSlop’s Windows 11, where damn near every update has a crippling bug in it that could’ve been avoided

Anyone who says the first is lying to you. LLMs are actually incredibly useful tool in the tasks they were initially designed for like machine translation, natural sounding text-to-speech and accurate speech-to-text.

In trying to generate hype (or more rather revenue), the companies responsible for these models have been throwing LLMs into all sorts of functions they just weren’t designed for - often to haphazard results.

It’s like asking a really well-trained parrot to fact-check for you, code for you, write stories to you. It knows what these things look like, so can make really convincing copies and mash-ups that look right on first read - but it can’t iterate and make new things because it doesn’t actually know what training data it has is fact/fiction, it doesn’t know what code actually does, and it has no idea what a cohesive story is.

The problem is that executives and shareholders are only aware of what’s being hyped up about LLMs, and not of the technical limitations underneath that make them rather unreliable compared to specialised neural networks or just plain trained professionals.

So it is simultaneously robbing people of their jobs because of hype, while doing an absolutely terrible job of it because it is fundamentally limited in what it can replace.

Oh there are cheat codes - you just have to be born rich enough to use them

Was about to say exactly this. Didn’t realise Donny still had any sense left to give. If only he could have such a moment of clarity about himself

Surely there has to be a level of expenditure where they just can’t reasonably make this back, right?

Like the debt these hyperscalers are in to their investors at this moment surpasses the debt of entire countries, yet they somehow expect to make this all back and then some??

So much gas-lighting going on from Trump’s Whitehouse over the Iran war its ridiculous.

If Iran is still controlling the Strait of Hormuz to the point where they can use reopening it as a negotiation tool - then with all sincerity you haven’t won shit.

Billions a week are being spent on a war that was completely unnecessary, leading to negotiations so bad they make the Obama administration look like masterminds for being half-competent at the job.

… And all this bullshit occurred just so Trump could distract from him being a paedophile - but if being treasonous cunt wasn’t enough to get him in prison, I doubt being a pedo will do much either.

Tell you what that Rsync thread is just a goldmine.

While I’m generally not one to complain about something I’m getting for free, and I do understand the dev wanting to make more efficient use of their time…

I don’t think people are wrong here expressing their annoyance at what was previously feature complete and stable software being vibe-code updated into a buggy mess.

… And that’s without mentioning the ethical and security issues posed by vibe-coded software.