U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on April 14 that he is proud of Washington cutting off funding to Ukraine amid Russian aggression, listing it among the Trump administration’s top achievements.

Speaking at a Turning Point USA event in Athens, Georgia, Vance recalled being confronted by a Ukrainian-American over his calls to halt funding for Ukraine.

“And this person got really agitated at me because I was saying we should stop funding the Ukraine war,” Vance said.

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    Knowing that Ukraine gave up its nukes in exchange for permanent protection from the US, I can understand the “agitation”. I’d be pissed.

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      Quavering and faultering on this is what told the world the USA was done being a responsible adult citizen.

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        Or, you know, openly breaking international law from 1999 on. Which Putin has cited as a precedent for his own illegal war in Ukraine.

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      in exchange for permanent protection from the US

      The Budapest Memorandum did not contain such a security guarantee.

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          While it did not spell out permanent protection

          If a treaty does not spell out permanent protection, then it does not give permanent protection. That is not how treaties work. It is not a “valid interpretation” to pretend a treaty gives guarantees that it does not specify.

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            The guarantee is a permanent protection from their actions, not permanent protection from others action or a requirement for assistance. You are either purposely being obtuse here or just disingenuous.

            My guess is you are a Russian apologist.

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              So when you wrote “permanent protection from the US”, you meant that the US would so to say “protect Ukraine from the US”? Not that the US would protect Ukraine from e.g. Russia? That was a very unclear formulation!

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                Yes, that was the agreement that Russia, UK, and the US agreed to. That they would not as a country infringe on Ukraine’s sovereignty.

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                  I doubt the first poster who mentioned was talking about that. It’s a pretty common misconception about the Budapest memorandum.

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    Just Dumb and the MAGA fucks continue to break the 1994 Budapest Agreement. If the USA requests you to get rid of your nuclear insurance policy, tell them to f-off.

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      they’re not really breaking Budapest memorandum (not that they wouldn’t break any treaty in a heartbeat) because it did not say the other signatories would have to defend Ukraine from anyone else. It’s still a bad precedent for nuclear disarmament of course but then again the Trump administration has done every fucking thing they can to make literally every country in the world want nuclear weapons now because they’ve completely broken the old order where countries had at least some faith in USA mostly upholding and abiding by international law and supporting their supposed allies.

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        Their entire cabal should suffer the same way that We The People suffer under their rule.

        Incarcerate them as common federal criminals.

        Strip them of their material assets and mark them as sex offenders and ex cons. Then release them into our world: Where they have to use “marketplace” insurance that charges an arm and a leg but covers a pinky toe.

        They can try to apply for loans with abysmal credit and a shitton of debt that keeps compounding because they can’t pay off that debt.

        Regardless of political following, the entire country knows or would find out quickly what terrible workers they would be at any real job, so they would need to apply and get ghosted endlessly to even begin to mount the steps to approach the class ladder they and their ilk constructed.

        If they do get that job somehow. They get to enjoy clocking in and out every day, exhausted and abused, knowing the only influence they’ll ever again exert is suggesting the taco value deal over the burger meal, or the brown purse over the black one. That every single day of this isn’t getting them any closer to a brighter future or a way out of the cycle.

        They’ll go to their public libraries they fervently cried to defund, and they’ll ask for help, but be kicked out by security after screaming about immigrants and bathrooms.

        They’ll be forced to use our crumbling, car-worshipping infrastructure after jumping through tons of hoops to validate their identification and get a driver’s license and maybe even a “Real for really reals tho” ID if they ever want to board a plane. (But with today’s airfare haha that’s unlikely!)

        See how far those bootstraps get them.

        If a traffic accident, the healthcare system, garbage food, or gun violence doesn’t do them in, they’ll live out and die as they falsely professed themselves to be:

        …Actual Americans like you and me.

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        I think we’re more civilized nowadays. I’d be content with reintroducing the pillory. Especially the ‘In addition to being jeered and mocked, the criminal might be pelted with rotten food, mud, offal, dead animals, and animal excrement’ part.

        Seriously though, hanging seems too quick/easy and I’m pretty sure public humiliation is a worse punishment for self important narcissistic fucks.

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          Thats fair. I want them to be displayed to the people. To say that we as a nation will not suffer treason and traitors.

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    Fuck off vance, go check in with your momma I hear she is selling your couch for a bag of Ajax cleaner to snort.

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    i thought these mfs were promising to stop the war. they support the aggressor instead. wow

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      a dildo is useful and funto play with, vance is the kid who always takes his ball home with him. when he gets picked last

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    Bro can you believe we have 2 more years of this shit at least?? I say at least cuz even if trump fails at trying to run for a 3rd term I have such little confidence in dems. I’ve heard Kamala might try to run again X_X

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      I said it before and I’ll say it again, no matter what Trump or the Republicans do when it’s time to go to the polls every single Republican voter will grind their teeth, pick up the marker, a vote for Trump and the Republicans because “Well at least he’s not a Democrat.” Then once the results are out Democrats will be shocked to see that they lost to the Republicans again.

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    I’m glad shitban is out of Hungary so the EU is not hindered by that piece of shit and it’s all thanks to the couch fucker JD Vance. He killed a pope and Orban’s political career.

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    He doesn’t realize that even if he is 100% correct, that’s the lowest bar achieved by any administration in history.

    but sometimes I think he has to be in on the joke, he’s sold out long ago 100%, but he is self-aware

    then I remember I am always wrong so it must be opposite

    I was 100% sure Trump would lose second election, man I have no idea what is real anymore