Multiple people have been shot at the Dallas ICE field office, according to a law enforcement source.

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    Someone literally writes “Anti-ICE” on a bullet casing with what looks like a Sharpie? Is this The Onion? And shoots detainees because they hate ICE? Does that make any sense to anyone?

    Here’s a better theory: ICE killed a couple of detainees and they couldn’t even stage a “fake attack by leftists” story. Motivation makes no sense and multiple people are dead including, conveniently, the sniper.

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        Yeah, they took it one step too far there with the fake sniper, but this story has very obviously been falsified.

        What seems to have happened here is some far right nutjob killed a bunch of detainees because it’s not enough that immigrants get deported, no, they have to fucking die (and if you don’t think that’s plausible you’ve not been paying attention). Then the people at ICE decided that the last thing they wanted was for this to increase sympathy for immigrants so they hastily scrawled “ANTI-ICE” (about the least plausible “Fuck you” anyone has ever put on a munition… That’d be like some Tommy in WW2 writing “ANTI-GERMAN” on his grenade… No, you write something funny like “Catch!”) on single cartridge out of a stack of five, using a sharpie from the front desk, because they saw it in the news recently with the Charlie Kirk stuff and figured it would seem plausible.

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          They also invented that ICE shot three detainees, two of whom are SURVIVING WITNESSES. Don’t encourage this bullshit. Just wait for the facts.

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    Sniper shoots unlawfully detained people. Homeland Security sells the story as an attack on ICE.

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    So basically you can write anything on the bullet to place blame on the side you want blamed and everyone will automatically believe you? – because someone who would shoot people would definitely not lie or try to make it look like a certain “side” did it, right?

    Or maybe no matter what they write or who they shoot, this regime will blame it on “the left”. (edit to add): The FBI could just as easily have scrawled that “anit-ice” on there before taking the picture. I guess messages on bullets is the new trend now.

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      So basically you can write anything on the bullet to place blame on the side you want blamed and everyone will automatically believe you?

      Everyone on the side not being blamed, yes

      Or maybe no matter what they write or who they shoot, this regime will blame it on “the left”

      Also yes

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    Shooter appears to have been targeting kidnapped immigrants, not ICE. But sure, the violence against ICE agents has to stop. Violence against brown people, however? Totally fine.

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      I’m not sure what the shooter’s motivations were, but he appears to have shot the van they were in multiple times and not have had any visual on his targets, meaning he could have been aiming for the ICE. It’s hard to say for sure.

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        he appears to have shot the van they were in

        If that’s the case, the ICE agents would be in the front of the van and the detainees would have been in the back. So how do the detainees get shot but the ICE agents are fine if the shooter was targeting agents?

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          Again, we don’t know for sure, but it’s not uncommion for the Agents themselves to ride in the back and all jump out on location to perform a surprise raid.

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          Sounds like he was shooting up the general area, and the van included. Maybe not even thinking about it and could have been shooting the back of a van, for all I know.

          Given the background of the shooter, I don’t think he was thinking too much about the nuanced strategy and results, he was a 4-chan troll turned shooter, with maybe a bit of a libetarian bent, but mostly a generally nihilistic guy losing his mind in the cesspits of discussions.

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      Yep.

      Alternatively, it could have been just another right-wing fuckhead who wanted to murder some brown people and the administration is making the best use of it they can to make up for dropping the ball so hard on Kirk’s assassination.

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        Could be a mix of the two. Could be an ICE officer who was off duty. We don’t even know who they are hiring or who they are redirecting from what agency. Or it could just be someone who wanted to be ICE or were rejected by them.

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          It’s looking more and more like he was some 4-chan mental case who just wanted to kill people. His friends reported that he would never take political action against Trump, so that says a lot. His 6000 hours in Rust also says a lot.

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              Somethingawful.com shaped our future in ways nobody would have imagined. More and more I feel like I understand Lowtax taking his own life, even if most of it was personal issues, there was a weight behind his choices that spread throughout the world when he just wanted a funny comedy site.

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        Many of the fuckwits that commit mass shootings kill themselves afterwards to avoid consequences. The guy killing himself afterwards is honestly perfectly normal.

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    Three people were shot at the Dallas Immigration and Customs Enforcement field office on Wednesday morning, according to acting ICE Director Todd Lyons.

    The shooter is “down” from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound, Lyons said in an interview on CNN.

    That’s the whole article.

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      The victims were not immediately clear but Lyons said that “all ICE agents and officers at [the] location are accounted for right now.”

      This is also notable!

      Because I assumed the narrative was that the shooter was targeting ICE agents.

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      Updated. 2 dead, 1 wounded. All were detainees. Shots were fired blindly at a building and a van. Detainees were in the van.

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          The shooter was an imbecile regardless.

          Based on other reporting, sounds like it’s as much likely he thought it would be ‘funny’ to set the world on fire a bit rather than standing for any particular ideology. Which seems to be a very difficult problem as the usual strategies fall apart since the individuals just jump to an extremist action without any particularly certain indicators beforehand.

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    Looking at history and how unoriginal HF is. My prediction remains:

    Big ass false flag attack is on the horizon.

    Putin flavored.

    Everything the regime has tried to use to incite “civil war” has failed so far.

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      Interesting idea, but what could it possibly be? Americans shrug off gun violence like it’s just a part of life.

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        Like I said. Putin Flavored.

        The Moscow apartment bombings. Probably in a blue or at least purple state. Lots of victims. Blames antifa.

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          It’ll be the new Hitler’s “Reichstagg Fire” moment. His big one-size-fits-all excuse to snap his mass-murder plan into place.

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    “left-wing extremist” who was “politically motivated to go after people who are enforcing our border.”

    If they keep saying it they’ll be right eventually. “SEE?!? We told you so!!”

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    So supposedly this was targeted at ICE but he missed and hit 3 immigrants by accident. So, again, both sides will claim the other side is responsible.

    The only thing clear is that there’s more violence coming.

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      It really, really feels like a false flag, either completely or partially staged. The single round in a… stripper clip? with the phrase “anti ice” hastily written on ONE bullet is bad enough, but the tweet by Patel really sealed it, both in terms of posting evidence in a murder case on social media, and the fact that he said “empty casings were engraved” as he posted the picture of non-empty bullet casings with sharpie markings. It seems like they tried to do something hasty and rapid here and made a lot of mistakes.

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      Yeah, these guys writing shit on bullets thinking it’ll throw cops off their trail, are wasting their time. It’s dumb.

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      So supposedly this was targeted at ICE but he missed and hit 3 immigrants by accident.

      Source?

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        You see the picture? It says “anti-ICE” on the bullet. I find it really fucking weird that ever since Luigi all the killers write something on the bullets and it’s supposed to tell us what side they were on. So I’m not saying he wrote this and that he was “anti-ICE”, I’m just saying that both sides will no claim he was from the other side. One because of what he supposedly wrote on the bullet, the other because of who he hit.

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          If the shooter was actually Anti-ICE and chose to write something on the casings, they would write something other than “Anti-ICE”. That’s not even a message.

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            And only on one bullet… perfectly left facing up on the ground, totally not staged for the photo at all. There’s no way that an ICE agent could have possibly written that quickly with a pen/marker/sharpie… at an office… where the shooting happened. Nope, couldn’t possibly have been one of the Gestapo there after the fact, they’re trustworthy and never do anything illegal.

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          The world pretty much fell over themselves thinking how awesome the ‘deny’, ‘defend’, ‘depose’ was, so I’m not particularly surprised everyone that follows through with sniping tries to imitate that in some way. It’s a way for the shooter to tap into being as important and significant as Luigi has been in popular culture. Or in this case, it might have been ‘ironic’ as a supremely broken 4-chan edge-lord thinking they are going out of the world doing the ultimate troll.

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    Thoughts and prayers…

    But still nowhere near as big of a tragedy as when a school gets shot up. And Charlie Kirk said these are the price of freedom

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      Gosh I hate paying the price of freedom so much this time. It hurts so much I’m moaning. And using a back massager made by an industrial machinery company to relieve some if the stress. The stress in my back. Which I’m massaging.

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    Unfortunately, the Nazi government is going to use this to further abuse their power.

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      Sounds like 3 people shot, and the shooter killed himself. 2 people were detainees that were shot, no information on the third. Noem of course is saying “violence against ICE has to stop”… But this very much sounds like violence against immigrants. Unless they were detaining ICE officers

      Edit: Fox is reporting all 3 were detainees, being shot with a rifle from range and the shooter killed himself. Fox made sure to say the shooter was white.

      I haven’t seen anyone else report on it outside FOX/CNN with any details yet

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        Who is so racist that they have to kill people already detained and likely have already shitty ruined lives? These maga cultists better be labeled as terrorists once trump is gone

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          Is that a serious question?

          It’s been like a week since someone killed Charlie Kirk for not being rightwing enough.

          And you’re surprised someone thinks we should execute immigrants instead of “just” detain and deport?!

          The far right has been fracturing since Trump took office.

          They all want different things to different extremes, and now that MAGA controls the whole federal government, they’re all pissed things aren’t happening exactly as they want.

          They’re realizing that what they thought was “us” is really a bunch of “them”.

          trump speed runs everything, usually it takes years for a fascist movement to start eating itself once it comes to power.

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            Did I miss credible evidence coming out that Robinson was actually part of a far right group that thought Kirk wasn’t extreme enough?

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              Ugh, I have to agree with this because you’re correct. I haven’t seen anything confirming right wing or left wing either. It seems like the dude just acted and a case could be made for either side.

              I say ugh because it would be easier if we could have a definite reason to point to.

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              No, just it’s a stupid take and always has been. Anyone with an ounce of objectivity is at least waiting for something more definitive and not simply going with what they would love to be true.

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        What a tool that noem is, trying to spin a victim narrative real quick before anyone actually knows what happened.