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    Computer programming books … Lol we don’t print them any more, they’d be obsolete before hitting the shelves.

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      Do be fair, that’s less because the fundamentals behind programming are changing and more because the specific implementations are changed all the damn time.

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    Mathematics teacher: That textbook was written thousands of years ago, and it is still as useful and relevant as ever, but I want you to buy this one I co-authored instead for the mere sum of $120, otherwise you won’t pass.

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        I took an environmental science class in college, and the professor was a former president of Shell. As part of the curriculum, we had to read his book, Why we Hate the Oil Companies. Predictably, it’s a corporate non-apologia, which—hilariously—completely avoids engaging with why we actually hate the oil companies.

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          Did people stand up to call the bullshit? I guess in this kind of situation you feel threatened that if you talk, you get penalized heavily

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        I admit I exaggerated a bit. It hasn’t happened to me, but I’ve had some teachers that strongly suggested buying their textbooks and frowned if you didn’t.

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        Not the original commenter, but I briefly had one professor in college that did that (their book was $50, though). It was an elective course for me, fortunately. I was able to switch for a different class that fit the same requirement without being forced to buy a book the professor wrote.

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    Science is validated by the new information replacing the old. Al-Khwarizmi worked out numbers so we don’t have to,

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      Nah mate, it was already in existence by last Tuesday afternoon and there is no way for you to disprove it.

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      Since you made the claim, the onus of proof is on you. Go on, it’ll be interesting to see your proof.

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    Oh that book is outdated. That’s the second edition, you need the third addition to complete the one math problem I am basing your entire grade on for the course.

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      That was probably inspired by the USA’s crappy national curriculum system of forcing kids to learn and use the lattice method which is 100% some sort of scam to make it look like math illiterate children are passing class and failing upwards.

      I mean seriously, we’ve been using base 10 arab system for a millenia, but you’re trying to tell me the department of education came up with a better method of drawing a damn chi square matrix abomination that makes even the two millenia old roman numeral system look good in comparison.

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      My favorite way to connect people with academia is pointing out how recently zero was invented because even the most reluctant “I don’t know math” person understands zero these days.

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        Can you really understand zero? I mean, I get what it represents, but I still sometimes struggle to understand its usage…like, you can’t divide with zero thats for sure, but did you know you can divide a number with a really small number (like an infinitely small number) and you get a really large number (like infinitely large)? So, in that special space, if you suddenly replace “0” with a “number-so-close-to-zero-it-can-smell-it” feel free to divide and conquer, and get infinity.

        Oh, and sometimes, if you feel like math is letting you down, remember, you can always use positive and negative zeroes, so your math-thing can now work!

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          I don’t understand why you can’t divide by zero.

          If you turn it into a word problem 10/1 could be stated as “If you have 10 things and put them in a bucket, how many things do you have in the bucket?”

          10/2 becomes “If you have 10 things, and and put an equal amount of them in two different buckets, how many things are in each bucket?”

          So, wouldn’t 10/0 become “If you have 10 things, and don’t put any of them into the bucket, how many things are in the bucket?”

          I’m bad at math, go easy on me.

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    Web development: Oh, that textbook is obsolete. It was written last year before Angular v18 was released.

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    Religious Texts: … that text was written by some half literate guy living in a desert who heard tenth hand folk stories from his community from people who had died about a hundred years before his time, mixed in with legends, myths and fairy tales that are thousands of years old … but it’s all true because it came from God, believe it or you will burn in hell forever.

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      You, a loser Christian, reading from a 2000 year old book of morality fables.

      Me, a sophisticated Scientologist, reading from a 70 year old Sci-Fi/fad health trilogy.

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      And don’t worry, it definitely wasn’t completely written a thousand years later to push the preferred political agendas of the time.

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      The hypocrisy of any religious book being the words of their all powerful master while they give themselves the option to cherry pick which rules they wish to follow is astounding.

      It’s one of the first things that convinced kid me that it’s all made up bullshit to control gullible people.

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        The funny part that is … which book are you talking about? … Christian bible? Jewish Tanakh? Islamic Koran? … and if its Christian - is it just the Old Testament? New Testament? … which version of the Christian bible? - King James? New Standard? English Standard? Anglican? Baptist? Lutheran? Methodist? Presbyterian? Roman Catholic? Mormon? Protestant?

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      That wouldn’t be true for Christianity as 3 of the 4 Gospels were cribbing off the 4th one. Heck the Gospel of John and the Revelation unto John were written by at least two different people and the Revelation likely was included at the Council of Nicea because they both had John in the name. Christianity would be very different without revelations.

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        The prevailing consensus is that the gospels of Matthew and Luke were cribbing from the gospel of Mark and a text that is lost to us that is referred to as Q. The gospel of John is original as far as we know.

        Also, a lot of the Pauline epistles weren’t even written by Paul.

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      Q: How can you tell if a Lemming is an atheist?

      A: Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.

      You saw a meme about science and math and your first thought was “how can I make this about religion”?

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        excuse me, but this is a meme about history and religious mythology is definitely a big part of history

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          I would just expect someone who doesn’t like religion to not want to have conversations about it, instead of bringing it up at every vaguely related opportunity.

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            sounds like you haven’t had much experience of having to sit through religious people spout bullshit at you every single day. it’s not the least bit surprising to me that it’s on someone’s mind. or maybe you just don’t understand why religion would matter to someone? even to challenge/deny it is to engage with its importance no?

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              sounds like you haven’t had much experience of having to sit through religious people spout bullshit at you every single day.

              You mean like what’s happening in this thread? Someone had a joke that had nothing to do with religion, and here we are talking about religious bullshit because someone can’t let any opportunity pass without mentioning religion.

              Again: if you’re tired of people spouting religious bullshit at you all day I would expect you to not try to steer even more conversations towards religion.

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    Electron was discovered in 1897. If you own a textbook on chemistry which is older than that, put it up on Ebay in the antiques category.

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      Newton lived in the 17th century, so if you got a textbook older than that give it back to the museum

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    Theres a lovely scene in Star Trek where Picard is captured, then finds an exposed wire on the cell panel. He takes it and begins tapping out prime numbers, to show to the aliens’ mathematicians that they’re sentient and capable of thought, independent of language.