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        When I accepted my current job, I did so on the conditions that I’d work 4x10 and fully from home (after training). When I started, they said there had been a misunderstanding about full WFH and that I was allowed to WFH one day a week. (That eventually changed during COVID but no one ever apologized to me for lying to me.)

        Seven years later - last year - they told me that it was “unfair” that I’m the only person who had a special schedule (apparently I was the last person to have it, but I certainly was not the only) and took that away, too.

        I live in a rural area and will not be able to find a comparable job nearby. I’ve been contemplating what to do.

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          They would never give you notice if they were firing you. They don’t deserve that courtesy from you.

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      On my first job the boss was telling a story about one of his previous jobs, where at one point they had to redo a whole week’s worth of work in one night. They tried hard and managed to do it. So I just added: “it’s in those times one see how slow they usually work”

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          Marathons don’t move at the speed of business though. Progress moves business faster. Commerce IS business. Fast businesses use speed to move faster than their clients speed.

          Business, business business. Speed. Solutions.

          Edit: how am I being downvoted lol - obviously what I wrote is nonsense straight from every Amazon, UPS, IBM commercial every made. Maybe I’m just moving at the speed of business. Keep up!

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        redo

        Or rather we see just how much labor original work is compared to replication.

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    “So we went back to five days, and now productivity is down to effectively three days, what went wrong?”

    Executives, everywhere.

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    The problem is the workplaces don’t want that. if you’re happier and have more energy, it also makes you more uppity and harder to control. You might even find options for other work!

    If it means keeping you tired and broken, that’s worth the cost of a little productivity.

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      But is that really so? i would think that a better work life balance makes the employees inclined to remain at their job instead of hopping elsewhere. Probably even at the expense of a higher salary at another place that would instead demand the grind again.

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        You’re not accounting for the emotional needs of management. Many of them are cruel. They put value in making their workers squirm.

        We should have worker owned things instead of the petty tyranny of capitalism, but here we are.

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        Take a look at are little friend remote work. Almost all employees love it. Retention is thru the roof at places that offer it. More than half of workers say they’d even take a pay cut to keep it. Productivity isn’t affected in most cases (ymmv obviously). Buuuuut guess who absolutely can’t stand it? Management. They’ll go to the ends of the earth to make sure you don’t get it. Ask yourself why.

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          It’s because management doesn’t only care about those numbers and stats you cited. They also have emotional needs. Like feeling important. Like being the boot.

          They also often don’t really understand how work gets done. They do a lot of meetings and schmoozing and think that’s how a web server gets build. They’re self centered, unimaginative, idiots.

          We are ruled by the worst among us.

          Edit: I realized I already wrote the same kind of thing in this thread the other day. I’m an old broken record!

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        People, generally speaking, have an absolutely infuriating tendency to adapt to good things. They eventually look for more. The best way to prevent this, from an employer’s perspective, is to break their spirit. Learned helplessness is one of the only ways to permanently keep a free person in a bad situation.

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      You might even find options for other work!

      Not many other places offer a 4-day week for same salary.
      This to give up would be a major strong point…

      And to be honest…I’d actually work an hour more a day (36h week) to have a monday - thursday week just for the same or higher wage.

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    This is why cruelty is the point, because they prioritize it even above profit.

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    I used to work at a university whose education department sank hundreds of thousands of dollars into a study to find ideal lecture length to maximize retention.

    Memory’s a little fuzzy… it was short. Like a half hour?

    Anyway the punchline I definitely do remember is that they got the results of the study then changed absolutely nothing

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      “We funded this study hoping it would conform to our existing world view, Alas it didnt, there for we’re not changing a fucking thing”

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        Thats pretty much the status quo of science under wealth inequality. I invent AI studies to confirm my biases too. The current study is “can an AI legislate better than mitch mcconnell”

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            All of them, and we should use the AI to spy on them and use the PATRIOT ACT data to see everything they’ve done in said in the last 100 years and summerize it for us. I’m totally ready to adopt this technology and use it against the people who would use it to control me.

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      I can believe it, last two places I’ve worked the primary voice in teaching decisions seems to have been timetabling. Got to maximise your room usage.

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    It’s Taco Bell logic. You love our chicken nuggets and caramel empanadas? We sold out in 3 days? Well they’re discontinued so fuck you. Ok guys, sales are down and we can’t figure out why, we need ideas.

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      they got rid of the quesarito just so they can bring it back for a week. and there is NOTHING in the quesarito that isnt already on the menu, so you can still get it if you customize a beefy 5 layer

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        I’ve done a thousand “real” lines in a day, but it was like a 10 hour “day,” and it was just coding for the entire period. No emails, no meetings, no peer reviews, no debugging. No design or architecture work–that was all done on a previous day.

        And obviously all of that code did get tested and debugged and reviewed, but on a different day. So I can’t really say that those lines were “completed” in one day.

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      With AI 1000 lines can be written in a few mins.

      Every programmer knows that more lines of code = better software. Encapsulation and abstraction are for suckers. CTRL+C, CTRL+V and you too can code like an AI.

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    I kinda see it lol, at work I see people dragging themselves to Friday. And on Friday, they’d do so much work and wrap up things that would otherwise take time. The excitement of “there’s no office tomorrow” and the motivation to clock out on time on a Friday evening is like the adrenalin rush!

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    I have worked in the mining industry for over 20 years. Before Covid happened my monthly schedule was set up so that we were given seven days off every month. At the end of 2021 management decided to change it so that we worked 5 days and 4 off with them saying that this was a “safer”and more beneficial to employees, since the schedule change there have been more people quitting and more people getting hurt on the job I myself along with others have voiced our opinion to go back to the original schedule and management looks down upon us as if we said a dirty word.

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    Productivity isn’t a straight line, which is where most businesses fail in their thinking. Yeah I can do five days of work in four days, with the right incentives. I can also do it in five with no incentives.

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    Lol yeah it’s the exact same [facetious] logic as expecting increasing the working day from 10 ~> 20 hours to lead to increased productivity.

    It’s almost like ample and adequate rest need to be baked into scheduling?

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        Holy crap are you telling me that if I impregnate 17 women at once I can have a kid in an hour? What’s all this hubub about population decline hop to it people!

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          Pregnancy is approximately 40 weeks, so to get it done in an hour, you’d have to impregnate more like 6,720 women. It’s hard to impregnate that many in an hour, so it’s no wonder guys are too intimidated to try it.

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      Three days in office was a perfect balance for me and my team. Everyone came in Wednesday so anytime we needed in person stuff, it was scheduled for that day. Folks were happy, saving on the commute, desk space and parking was plentiful. Then higher said folks like me were to be in five days a week while everyone else was four. Cue nosedive in productivity.

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    It’s also that so much work is pointless and doesn’t serve a proper purpose for humanity. Things like ads, a lot of office jobs where people sit in endless meetings, and so on.

    I think humanity has realized it’s wasting our lives but we can’t think of another system that will work.

    Maybe universal income but the downside of that is that it comes with AI and transhumanism, which will remove what is human about humans.

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      I hate how a big chunk of my work has become to write reports nobody should read. Our team produces a report every January, that gets passed to our director, that gets compiled into a yearly lab wide report, that gets combined into a 5-year report, that get sent to the government to ensure continuous funding… so much time wasted by everyone

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        I’m 51 now and I learned from 25 years of working that wasting time is not a problem for large corporations or governments. Even in smaller companies, they value people being forced into office much higher than employees producing work.

        So the conclusion for me is that its just a system to keep everyone busy and conform to rules set by the corporation.

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      Sure we can think of better. It’s just that the only people with the power to change or implement any of it are financially incentivized not to. So they don’t.

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        If the corporate fantasy of replacing all jobs with AI were to actually come to pass, what are all the now jobless people supposed to do? Quietly wait in a back alley to starve to death?

        So either universal income happens, or the one percent learn that there’s no level of technology that will overcome a two orders of magnitude disadvantage in numbers.

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        Because the alternatives are pointless toil or perishing (spoilers: neither of these are off the table)

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            It’s assuming a lot, but running with the premise of bots totally replacing human workers (dubious), either workers keep working even though they don’t need to (pointles toil), or they cease to exist as they last lever on power is removed (the ability to bargain by withholding their labour).

            It’s silly