At that point just say “Nice tits” and get the awkwardness out of the way. I ain’t playing your little power game as one of those friends.
But …what if the tits aren’t nice?
Then you say “nice tits” and don’t look at em anymore.
Mean titties ya got there
Let me tell you about the worst pair of titties I ever saw; they were awesome
Well yeah but your grandma was hotter than most.
Then you say it sarcasticly. Or just flail your arms and say “Quaid, start the reactor”
Now that is god damned hilarious. Thank you.
Never go full Kuato! Seriously though, that’s hilarious.
“Will you please roll those up and put them away? I’m afraid I am going to trip”
Does not compute
? What?
Perfect username for this comment.
But also, it just depends. Sometimes it’s about the party, place, and people.
I don’t talk about it much in normal spaces, but a subset of my friends group is fairly routinely naked or (with consent) randomly and casually sexually interacting with others.
At the most recent party with this group, they had to explicitly say the party was kid-friendly until a certain point, to avoid pink bits and inappropriate demonstrations from happening while children were there. (And also to ensure parents knew to get their kids out of there.)
Examples of things that routinely occur -
Some of the women wear dog toy squeakers in their bra to encourage interaction with their boobs.
People just compare undergarments and anatomy. Folks just get partially/fully naked and hang out.
People get tied up on the suspension point in the living room.
The same mount point can also mount to a pole, and the pole can be swapped in if someone is feeling acrobatic.
Sex sometimes randomly happens. I’ve been involved in an impromptu threesome. (A twosome spun up and we had a guest appearance.) People leave doors open.
There’s a hot tub. People use it. (The rule is no bodily fluids in the hot tub.) I mean, it’s kinky people at a party. Not a kink party. But just people at a party that negotiate consent and things happen.Different rules for different groups, though. The point isn’t to make people uncomfortable or to play power games (doing that probably would lead to a conversation at minimum and possibly a loss of invitation to future parties), it’s to revel in the physical pleasure of interacting with others and to have fun with folks who like to express their exhbitionist tendencies. While also bitching about work and life and all the other things people do at parties.
Some of the women wear dog toy squeakers in their bra to encourage interaction with their boobs.
stealing this idea tysm
It sounds quite unpleasant, but maybe im thinking of different kinds of dog toys?
they sell the squeakers on their own separately so you can make your own, i have a big bag of them
Ahhh that makes more sense than jammer a literal rubber chicken down my bra
Hahaha!
My friend that does this bought a pack of 100 of just the squeakers and she always carries spares to share.
Although… the rubber chicken, which requires a lot less force to honk, might be a good option for the gents. But then they’d honk every time they sat down. Hm… ideas are brewing.
If you don’t play their power game then they wind up with a recording of you saying that which they’ll save indefinitely in case you ever run for political office.
Also so they can assassinate your character if you ever mildly inconvenience them.
bruh, ain’t no body in the political class here and this kompromat gathering is useless against a bunch of suburbanites that are vicariously living through their friend with the younger partner.
You don’t have to be part of the political class to run for office. That type of mentality is exactly how we wind up with a “political class” in-group who disenfranchises and sabotages the campaigns of any commoner who wants to run for office to serve their constituencies (i.e., their neighbors).
Besides, running for office isn’t the only thing that could be sabotaged by this. You could get blacklisted by all the companies in your area. You could get slandered on social media and lose the respect of all your friends and neighbors. Maybe you can’t go to a coffee anymore cause you won’t be able to trust that someone won’t spit in it.
All because someone recorded you saying “nice tits” and posted it devoid of the context that she was hanging out casually naked and deliberately trying to make you sweat.
When has that happened?
Probably the last time someone said “nice tits” in this situation
So you’re not thinking of any particular situation? You just made it up?
It doesn’t seem especially likely and you aren’t trying to convince me that it’s likely…
Holy shit, the gaslighting is astounding lately.
No you’re right it’s totally cool to comment on women’s breasts when you’re only vaguely acquainted with them. I’m sure that won’t land you in trouble, especially if you blame it on what she’s wearing (or not wearing, in this case). I’m sure that’ll go great for you!
Ah yes, the two options: “totally cool” and “totally blackmail” 🤣
It’s kinda like playing russian roulette. What do you think the odds are? 1 in 6? Higher, lower?
I have never encountered this situation. I literally am not even sure what situation it’s describing
A horny wet dream fantasy.
A “violet dream” if you will
Eh, I’ve lived a fairly sheltered life but I’ve been at a half dozen, maybe a dozen total parties and gatherings that had casual nudity and sometimes sex. Being in your twenties and going out much at all back in the late aughts, it wasn’t hard to find groups like that.
Oh… there are some clothing optional situations in life and for the most part nudity gets very normal very fast but there can be moments when an attractive woman is conspicuously putting her attractive self on parade and just daring you to notice. It’s like a clip from some mating dance on the nature channel somehow pasted onto humans.
This specimen of Homo sapiens, commonly known as a human, despite already having a lifelong partner, struts in front of another male to show off and make fun of him; the reasons why this happens are not yet clear, but it seems to be a way of causing trouble, which some individuals find pleasing and arousing.
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Wow, the comments in this thread are surprisingly bad, even for a shitpost.
Having been in the situation myself, my thoughts were very much “let’s not make them uncomfortable” (meaning feel sexualised), but the first times (as a young’un) it got stiff enough (not that way :p) that the person chose to break the tension. Just don’t be weird about it and everyone can be comfortable.
There are plenty of situations and contexts where nudity isn’t sexual, and I highly recommend getting comfortable with that distinction. I find people and groups of all genders to become a lot more safe with that skill.
Why are you nude with guests over? No offense intended. Genuine question.
we’re on a boat which is an ideal location to be perpetually nude (sunbathing, swimming, no need to go anywhere else, etc.)
and also, you know, the implication.
They won’t refuse… because of the implication
I’m not doing anything, but the implication
Yes, thirst trap police, this comment right here
“why is she being weird, this is uncomfortable”
I once knew someone fairly exhibitionist. I consider myself relatively immune to bullshit and once spoke to her about it and how it was a bit rude to make other people uncomfortable for your own gratification, but she didn’t change what she was doing.
(She never hung out naked, it was just stuff she said or how far she and her bf would go when out with all our friends.)
yeah this kind of stuff needs consent from everyone or you’re just making people uncomfortable and that’s not fun or very nice
I think there’s a real selfish mindset to it: people who do this like using their sexuality to get a reaction, even if others don’t enjoy it. They like “making a man hot under the collar” or watching someone try to decide whether to say something, or then feeling superior because they didn’t name the violation of social norms.
I kinda get the other side: if we were more open about sex and nudity it’d save a lot of grief. But I think you can tell when someone wants to do that versus when they get a power trip from sitting around with their tits out, because it’s done in smaller ways.
evenespecially if others don’t enjoy itSeems like the fundamental premise of the joke/meme? It sounds weirdly like getting off on violating others’ boundaries.
I actually find this gross, I’m assuming the roommate consented or else your are no better than the guys who flash people naked under a trench coat. But if he did, and he’s obviously so visibly uncomfortable, I can’t imagine as an empathetic person continuing to make them uncomfortable.
Even if them being uncomfortable was because they were trying not to make me feel uncomfortable. I can’t imagine the meme switched genders people would be so cool about it. I guess i could say if a pig has wings it would be a bird, but this is gross. Sorry.
It’s funny cause I just got mad at someone for saying something fucked up to a shitpost, but this doesn’t feel right at all.
Maybe first ask for context before getting so riled up?
Not everyone on this page has the same cultural background as you. In Germany for example it’s quite common to be naked at the beach/lake. Not everywhere obviously but common enough that a lot of us are not bothered by nudity as much as other cultures.
They posted the context, the person i hope they got consent from is trapped on a boat with them. Making escape impossible from possible discomfort. It’s even worse, it’s a fucking captive audience to torment. Again, I hope there was consent, I’d imagine that still exists in Germany. And again, as a human who’s aware of my effect on other people, I’d imagine they still have empathy in Germany, I wouldn’t want to make a person uncomfortable for my own benefit, that’s selfish and weird, and if it was a dude it would be fucking sinister. Because it’s a girl in the meme, people in the thread are answering with their pants around their ankles.
“Damn bro what happened to that chick you had over the other day? She was way prettier than this one”
Okay… that’s actually totally fair. If I was in a dunk tank, I would be in the water.
I’d be uncomfortable if a person isn’t clothed and I’m not mentally prepared for it. No matter the looks.
I call bull shit. Last week I caught you furiously masturbating in the lemmy communal sauna. I would’ve believed you if you weren’t constantly yelling: “Oh God, I’m not mentally prepared. Oh God. Oh Please! I’m not ready!” You’re a bad liar.
This account is such a master baiter to both sides
Reptile brain: LOOK! LOOK! LOOK!
Sentient brain: it’s rude to look so I’ll try my best not to
That fucking peripheral vision, target lower… no… it’s right down there, you can see it just not focus on it… no… you turn past to look somewhere else, eyes dip…FUCK YOU BRAIN…
If your hanging about with your junk out I’m looking. If you don’t want me to look put your pants back on.
Used to have “Naked Tuesdays” with another couple we were friends with years ago. Just the four of us hanging out naked watching TV, maybe some other things happening. If you weren’t looking at anyone else, why even bother?
How was this started? Who brought the topic into conversation. Why Tuesday?
We always just got together on Tuesdays. Worked best for all four of us and work schedules.
I don’t really remember how it started. I think one day was just really hot outside and our apartment was cool, but me and the other guy took our shirts off. The girls got all jealous and took their off, and it just went from there. Every Tuesday after that was them arriving then clothes coming off.
Every day is nude day at my house. It’s so nice. I hate clothes.
My partner and I walk around often enough just naked. We live on a farm now with 14 acres and really no one around us.
We’re getting our deck expanded with a little bit of privacy from the road, so soon we can sit outside naked.
Yeah our backyard is secluded, love nude sunbathing.
I was curious if this was some violet type shit and it kinda was lol. Good job
Something similar happened to me while playing catan at a friends place and it was pretty weird. One of the sublets we didn’t know very well had a new lady friend over ever month. The lady of the month walked into the kitchen in just panties and asked what we were playing. She obviously didn’t get the response she was hoping for and left with a disapointed look on her face. We all wondered if she was hoping to fluster a bunch of “virgin nerds” like some corney early 2000s movie in order to stroke her ego.
Ah violet08 reincarnated again I see.
feeling sorry for lots of the people in this thread and their prudish mindsets
i’m queer and in seattle so casual nudity is pretty normal here, we even have a whole beach for it! i go tits out at bridge raves and pride and other stuff all the time and nobody cares. and half the time i’m wearing see-through tops with no bra! like… sometimes you’ll be hanging out and some people will just be naked and it’s fine. most of my friends have seen my nudes i post on mastodon! it’s good and fine and okay. it’s only weird if you make it weird
oh, i’ve always found it kind of funny, actually.
the fediverse/lemmy have a very progressive demographic, but they can also be surprisingly prudish when it comes to anything sex-related, especially when it’s coming from a female perspective.
after being on here for months, i’ve somehow been branded as “the horny poster,” even though most of my posts aren’t explicitly horny or freaky. they’re more observational, almost diaristic, in the way they approach these kinds of topics. for example, i don’t find this post horny or freaky at all.
I’ve never seen you post something that is not related to sex in some way, so yeah you are definetly a horny poster for me.
I don’t mind though.
This post is not about sex though? It’s about nudity.
Which is related to sex in some way.
Your dick is out while you’re pissing, is that about sex too? What about when you’re showering? What about when you take off clothes because you’re hot, that about sex? Nudity isn’t inherently about sex.
and don’t even get me started on the “mark this as NSFW, please” police patrolling around here, lmao. (the tamest post you can imagine.)
Ehhhh, I can understand people might hold a pretty large safety margin for “will my boss be OK with this”.
Edit: did some profile stalking. None of that is remotely nsfw, screw those people.
I’m not comfortable with people hanging out naked around me and no amount of your “feeling sorry” is going to change that
Especially since I’d wager most of it IS sexual and their fantasy. No one just casually decides it doesn’t bother them and then actively goes out of social norms unless they really want to prove a point or it’s their kink… ergo, they very much do care.
Buddy like half the world bathes together normally. Imagine being so porn brained that you can’t conceive of casual non sexual nudity.
Yet these people aren’t in ‘that’ half of the world nor are they coming from it, are they?
That doesn’t really respond to my point. If casual nudity is uncomfortable to you, that’s a you problem. If you think nudity is inappropriate by virtue of being nudity you’re a fuckin prude and can quite frankly shove off.
And the wrong glance or stray word and they might fly off the handle accusing you of sexual violence when it was their choice to be casually naked into front of you in the first place.
Looking isn’t violence, of course, but that won’t stop them from accusing you of victim blaming with a sarcastic “wHaT wAs ShE wEaRiNg?”
I’d be uncomfortable in the same way I’d be uncomfortable if someone were to force me to play russian roulette.
You likely wouldn’t be hanging out in groups where casual nudity is a thing then huh?
No, I don’t, which is why I would be uncomfortable if I was hanging out at my friend’s house and his “fling” was just chilling out naked. Especially if she was enjoying making me and anyone else around uncomfortable
Y’all have dick for media literacy. Nowhere does the meme imply that op was getting a kick out of making everyone uncomfortable. If anything the meme implies she was oblivious to it, not intentionally doing it to get a reaction. Y’all are so out of touch you genuinely can’t imagine someone just preferring to be naked in a safe comfortable space. No wonder none of y’all are having kids, you’re afraid of fuckin nudity.
Jesus context is fuckin difficult with this lot. Lemme break this down for you here; if op is naked around fling and fling’s friend, fling is the kind of person who clearly doesn’t have issues with casual nudity, therefore would not likely freely have friends over if those friends weren’t ok with casual nudity. Like, it’s fuckin implicit by virtue of having tits out. Apparently none of you have ever seen public nudity. It’s not a big deal. Nobody cares except for perverts and porn-brained internet shut ins.
What does OP’s nudity have anything to do with fling’s or fling’s friend’s beliefs?
it’s fuckin implicit by virtue of having tits out
So, just to be clear, by your logic, if I was at a hangout with, say, my friends and their girlfriends (all of whom I can tell you would be uncomfortable with nudity), and I just whipped my dick out and started chilling naked, it would actually be chill because
it’s fuckin implicit by virtue of having
titsdick outIf your dick is already out when your friends come into your dick out space then yeah, that’s on your friends. Y’all can’t understand context if it whipped its dick out in public. Fling has company over while op has tits out, ergo fling and op are comfortable with casual nudity and aren’t concerned about friends seeing tits. If you’re uncomfortable about casual nudity in someone else’s space, that’s on you. This isn’t complicated but all y’all motherfuckers keep imagining situations where ya get to be the victims of gasp witnessing casual nudity.
You keep going on about context. What context? OP doesn’t give any context, only that she is naked around other people who are obviously uncomfortable about it and wondering what they thinking. How is this supposed to be interpreted in any way other than OP putting other people in a situation they do not want to be in?
We are not imagining scenarios where we get to be victims, we are trying to explain to you that we would not be comfortable with the situation described, and despite you saying it’s not complicated, you attack us and call us prudes. Also, the person being referenced in OP’s meme is a victim, no imagining about it
feeling sorry for lots of the people in this thread and their prudish mindsets
Well why try and shame them for their culture?
See, there’s a difference between “Yeah I’d rather keep my clothes on” rather than telling other people “You should keep your clothes on in your own house with friends who are also comfortable being naked”.
This isn’t at her own house though. Her fling’s friends are around, so chances are it’s at her fling’s house.
I mean what if I as a man were to decide to hang out naked at “a fling’s” house when her friends are over and I didn’t ask any of them if they’d be comfortable with me taking my clothes off? Suddenly the situation seems different, right?
This is just the same old casual minimization of men’s concerns when their boundaries or consent is being violated, because “You’re a man so you should just shut up and enjoy this. Consider yourself lucky to bask in the presence of my feminine nakedness.”
Not really, I’ve been in that situation. Her buddy said nice dick, people laughed, that was that. When I got across the room to where my clothes were I got dressed. You might just be a prude.
Okay, I’ll just start hanging out naked around people who didn’t agree to see my junk, and if anyone feels uncomfortable I’ll call them a prude. We’ll see how that goes.
Your anecdote about a few people who happened to be pro-nudity doesn’t change that. The same situation could’ve landed you in jail and registered as a sex offender if your audience happened to be different.
No it couldn’t when you’re in a private space. Plenty of people have seen my dick because they came into a space where I was free to have my dick out for whatever reason. Never had an issue. Are you autistic or just really bad at social cues? This isn’t complicated. There’s times and places that nudity isn’t inappropriate. Private spaces are one. Have you ever seen in person the opposite sex naked? It’s not a big deal.
There’s a difference between “I’ve been naked with another adult in a mutually consensual situation” and “oh haha, let me just hang out naked to make people uncomfortable so I can laugh at them.”
Did you not read the OP?
So in the same vain you think it would be acceptable for the protagonist of this meme to start cutting themselves as an act of self-harm infront of other people? Or took a shit in the living room? No matter if it made the observers uncomfortable?
My point is that there are things that make people uncomfortable and they are socially conditioned. There is a line over which you can pass in that you are harming others.
Imagine trying to equate comfortable nudity and accepting one’s body to “YEAH BUT WHAT IF THEY STARTED CUTTING THEMSELVES NOW WHAT!?”
What a weird reach. Just admit you hyper sexualize nudity and get it over with.
Imagine trying to tell everyone else that your culture and belief system is right and others are wrong.
Quite imperialist.
What belief system? I am comfortable being naked. I find other people who are also comfortable being naked. We share being comfortable being naked together. We are not naked in front of others who are not comfortable with themselves or others being naked.
It’s not hard, bro. I’m not gonna drink booze in front of a recovering alcoholic. I’m not going to tell war stories to someone with severe PTSD, and I’m not gonna be naked in front of someone who isn’t in on also being naked.
You do whatever you want to do. I’m not the one judging here. I have a partner who loves being naked and I love being naked with. We have friends who also love being naked who we all spend naked time with.
Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.
We are not naked in front of others who are not comfortable with themselves or others being naked.
…
I’m not gonna be naked in front of someone who isn’t in on also being naked.That’s not what this post is about.
Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.
Sounds like something you should tell OP…
Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.
I think that is one thing the original post is missing and I am suggesting is necessary.
That is an insane comparison. It does not help your argument one bit.
It’s all about context. Deliberately exposing yourself without consent to someone could cause similar harm.
Up until the above comment, that is what the commenter was implicitly arguing, that it was fine to force your nakeness on others.
No, its kinda weird to casually hang out naked, like what’s the motivation behind it?
When you’re all comfortable being naked together, and pan/poly while being open with sharing partners… Why casually hang out with clothes on when everyone would rather be naked? Like, what’s the motivation behind it?
That’s not what this post is about, this is obviously about doing it in front of someone who hasn’t been consulted about it and is visibly uncomfortable.
Edit: Normally I don’t get butthurt about downvotes, but imagine downvoting this comment. Clearly people don’t give a fuck about consent when it’s a man whose boundaries are being violated.
