feeling sorry for lots of the people in this thread and their prudish mindsets
i’m queer and in seattle so casual nudity is pretty normal here, we even have a whole beach for it! i go tits out at bridge raves and pride and other stuff all the time and nobody cares. and half the time i’m wearing see-through tops with no bra! like… sometimes you’ll be hanging out and some people will just be naked and it’s fine. most of my friends have seen my nudes i post on mastodon! it’s good and fine and okay. it’s only weird if you make it weird
the fediverse/lemmy have a very progressive demographic, but they can also be surprisingly prudish when it comes to anything sex-related, especially when it’s coming from a female perspective.
after being on here for months, i’ve somehow been branded as “the horny poster,” even though most of my posts aren’t explicitly horny or freaky. they’re more observational, almost diaristic, in the way they approach these kinds of topics. for example, i don’t find this post horny or freaky at all.
Your dick is out while you’re pissing, is that about sex too? What about when you’re showering? What about when you take off clothes because you’re hot, that about sex? Nudity isn’t inherently about sex.
Especially since I’d wager most of it IS sexual and their fantasy. No one just casually decides it doesn’t bother them and then actively goes out of social norms unless they really want to prove a point or it’s their kink… ergo, they very much do care.
That doesn’t really respond to my point. If casual nudity is uncomfortable to you, that’s a you problem. If you think nudity is inappropriate by virtue of being nudity you’re a fuckin prude and can quite frankly shove off.
And the wrong glance or stray word and they might fly off the handle accusing you of sexual violence when it was their choice to be casually naked into front of you in the first place.
Looking isn’t violence, of course, but that won’t stop them from accusing you of victim blaming with a sarcastic “wHaT wAs ShE wEaRiNg?”
I’d be uncomfortable in the same way I’d be uncomfortable if someone were to force me to play russian roulette.
No, I don’t, which is why I would be uncomfortable if I was hanging out at my friend’s house and his “fling” was just chilling out naked. Especially if she was enjoying making me and anyone else around uncomfortable
Y’all have dick for media literacy. Nowhere does the meme imply that op was getting a kick out of making everyone uncomfortable. If anything the meme implies she was oblivious to it, not intentionally doing it to get a reaction. Y’all are so out of touch you genuinely can’t imagine someone just preferring to be naked in a safe comfortable space. No wonder none of y’all are having kids, you’re afraid of fuckin nudity.
Jesus context is fuckin difficult with this lot. Lemme break this down for you here; if op is naked around fling and fling’s friend, fling is the kind of person who clearly doesn’t have issues with casual nudity, therefore would not likely freely have friends over if those friends weren’t ok with casual nudity. Like, it’s fuckin implicit by virtue of having tits out. Apparently none of you have ever seen public nudity. It’s not a big deal. Nobody cares except for perverts and porn-brained internet shut ins.
What does OP’s nudity have anything to do with fling’s or fling’s friend’s beliefs?
it’s fuckin implicit by virtue of having tits out
So, just to be clear, by your logic, if I was at a hangout with, say, my friends and their girlfriends (all of whom I can tell you would be uncomfortable with nudity), and I just whipped my dick out and started chilling naked, it would actually be chill because
it’s fuckin implicit by virtue of having tits dick out
If your dick is already out when your friends come into your dick out space then yeah, that’s on your friends. Y’all can’t understand context if it whipped its dick out in public. Fling has company over while op has tits out, ergo fling and op are comfortable with casual nudity and aren’t concerned about friends seeing tits. If you’re uncomfortable about casual nudity in someone else’s space, that’s on you. This isn’t complicated but all y’all motherfuckers keep imagining situations where ya get to be the victims of gasp witnessing casual nudity.
You keep going on about context. What context? OP doesn’t give any context, only that she is naked around other people who are obviously uncomfortable about it and wondering what they thinking. How is this supposed to be interpreted in any way other than OP putting other people in a situation they do not want to be in?
We are not imagining scenarios where we get to be victims, we are trying to explain to you that we would not be comfortable with the situation described, and despite you saying it’s not complicated, you attack us and call us prudes. Also, the person being referenced in OP’s meme is a victim, no imagining about it
See, there’s a difference between “Yeah I’d rather keep my clothes on” rather than telling other people “You should keep your clothes on in your own house with friends who are also comfortable being naked”.
This isn’t at her own house though. Her fling’s friends are around, so chances are it’s at her fling’s house.
I mean what if I as a man were to decide to hang out naked at “a fling’s” house when her friends are over and I didn’t ask any of them if they’d be comfortable with me taking my clothes off? Suddenly the situation seems different, right?
This is just the same old casual minimization of men’s concerns when their boundaries or consent is being violated, because “You’re a man so you should just shut up and enjoy this. Consider yourself lucky to bask in the presence of my feminine nakedness.”
Not really, I’ve been in that situation. Her buddy said nice dick, people laughed, that was that. When I got across the room to where my clothes were I got dressed. You might just be a prude.
Okay, I’ll just start hanging out naked around people who didn’t agree to see my junk, and if anyone feels uncomfortable I’ll call them a prude. We’ll see how that goes.
Your anecdote about a few people who happened to be pro-nudity doesn’t change that. The same situation could’ve landed you in jail and registered as a sex offender if your audience happened to be different.
No it couldn’t when you’re in a private space. Plenty of people have seen my dick because they came into a space where I was free to have my dick out for whatever reason. Never had an issue. Are you autistic or just really bad at social cues? This isn’t complicated. There’s times and places that nudity isn’t inappropriate. Private spaces are one. Have you ever seen in person the opposite sex naked? It’s not a big deal.
There’s a difference between “I’ve been naked with another adult in a mutually consensual situation” and “oh haha, let me just hang out naked to make people uncomfortable so I can laugh at them.”
Yes. If people come into my private spaces they do so with the understanding that they may see me nude. Given the context of the op the implication is the flings friends came over after the fling had some fun and thus came into the nude persons space where they’re allowed to be naked. Their discomfort with her nudity is their problem. You’re projecting that it was some sort of power play when a remarkable number of people just aren’t bothered by nudity because it’s not inherently sexual.
So in the same vain you think it would be acceptable for the protagonist of this meme to start cutting themselves as an act of self-harm infront of other people? Or took a shit in the living room? No matter if it made the observers uncomfortable?
My point is that there are things that make people uncomfortable and they are socially conditioned. There is a line over which you can pass in that you are harming others.
What belief system? I am comfortable being naked. I find other people who are also comfortable being naked. We share being comfortable being naked together. We are not naked in front of others who are not comfortable with themselves or others being naked.
It’s not hard, bro. I’m not gonna drink booze in front of a recovering alcoholic. I’m not going to tell war stories to someone with severe PTSD, and I’m not gonna be naked in front of someone who isn’t in on also being naked.
You do whatever you want to do. I’m not the one judging here. I have a partner who loves being naked and I love being naked with. We have friends who also love being naked who we all spend naked time with.
Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.
We are not naked in front of others who are not comfortable with themselves or others being naked.
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I’m not gonna be naked in front of someone who isn’t in on also being naked.
That’s not what this post is about.
Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.
When you’re all comfortable being naked together, and pan/poly while being open with sharing partners… Why casually hang out with clothes on when everyone would rather be naked? Like, what’s the motivation behind it?
That’s not what this post is about, this is obviously about doing it in front of someone who hasn’t been consulted about it and is visibly uncomfortable.
Edit: Normally I don’t get butthurt about downvotes, but imagine downvoting this comment. Clearly people don’t give a fuck about consent when it’s a man whose boundaries are being violated.
feeling sorry for lots of the people in this thread and their prudish mindsets
i’m queer and in seattle so casual nudity is pretty normal here, we even have a whole beach for it! i go tits out at bridge raves and pride and other stuff all the time and nobody cares. and half the time i’m wearing see-through tops with no bra! like… sometimes you’ll be hanging out and some people will just be naked and it’s fine. most of my friends have seen my nudes i post on mastodon! it’s good and fine and okay. it’s only weird if you make it weird
oh, i’ve always found it kind of funny, actually.
the fediverse/lemmy have a very progressive demographic, but they can also be surprisingly prudish when it comes to anything sex-related, especially when it’s coming from a female perspective.
after being on here for months, i’ve somehow been branded as “the horny poster,” even though most of my posts aren’t explicitly horny or freaky. they’re more observational, almost diaristic, in the way they approach these kinds of topics. for example, i don’t find this post horny or freaky at all.
I’ve never seen you post something that is not related to sex in some way, so yeah you are definetly a horny poster for me.
I don’t mind though.
This post is not about sex though? It’s about nudity.
Which is related to sex in some way.
Your dick is out while you’re pissing, is that about sex too? What about when you’re showering? What about when you take off clothes because you’re hot, that about sex? Nudity isn’t inherently about sex.
and don’t even get me started on the “mark this as NSFW, please” police patrolling around here, lmao. (the tamest post you can imagine.)
Ehhhh, I can understand people might hold a pretty large safety margin for “will my boss be OK with this”.
Edit: did some profile stalking. None of that is remotely nsfw, screw those people.
I’m not comfortable with people hanging out naked around me and no amount of your “feeling sorry” is going to change that
Especially since I’d wager most of it IS sexual and their fantasy. No one just casually decides it doesn’t bother them and then actively goes out of social norms unless they really want to prove a point or it’s their kink… ergo, they very much do care.
Buddy like half the world bathes together normally. Imagine being so porn brained that you can’t conceive of casual non sexual nudity.
Yet these people aren’t in ‘that’ half of the world nor are they coming from it, are they?
That doesn’t really respond to my point. If casual nudity is uncomfortable to you, that’s a you problem. If you think nudity is inappropriate by virtue of being nudity you’re a fuckin prude and can quite frankly shove off.
And the wrong glance or stray word and they might fly off the handle accusing you of sexual violence when it was their choice to be casually naked into front of you in the first place.
Looking isn’t violence, of course, but that won’t stop them from accusing you of victim blaming with a sarcastic “wHaT wAs ShE wEaRiNg?”
I’d be uncomfortable in the same way I’d be uncomfortable if someone were to force me to play russian roulette.
You likely wouldn’t be hanging out in groups where casual nudity is a thing then huh?
No, I don’t, which is why I would be uncomfortable if I was hanging out at my friend’s house and his “fling” was just chilling out naked. Especially if she was enjoying making me and anyone else around uncomfortable
Y’all have dick for media literacy. Nowhere does the meme imply that op was getting a kick out of making everyone uncomfortable. If anything the meme implies she was oblivious to it, not intentionally doing it to get a reaction. Y’all are so out of touch you genuinely can’t imagine someone just preferring to be naked in a safe comfortable space. No wonder none of y’all are having kids, you’re afraid of fuckin nudity.
Jesus context is fuckin difficult with this lot. Lemme break this down for you here; if op is naked around fling and fling’s friend, fling is the kind of person who clearly doesn’t have issues with casual nudity, therefore would not likely freely have friends over if those friends weren’t ok with casual nudity. Like, it’s fuckin implicit by virtue of having tits out. Apparently none of you have ever seen public nudity. It’s not a big deal. Nobody cares except for perverts and porn-brained internet shut ins.
What does OP’s nudity have anything to do with fling’s or fling’s friend’s beliefs?
So, just to be clear, by your logic, if I was at a hangout with, say, my friends and their girlfriends (all of whom I can tell you would be uncomfortable with nudity), and I just whipped my dick out and started chilling naked, it would actually be chill because
If your dick is already out when your friends come into your dick out space then yeah, that’s on your friends. Y’all can’t understand context if it whipped its dick out in public. Fling has company over while op has tits out, ergo fling and op are comfortable with casual nudity and aren’t concerned about friends seeing tits. If you’re uncomfortable about casual nudity in someone else’s space, that’s on you. This isn’t complicated but all y’all motherfuckers keep imagining situations where ya get to be the victims of gasp witnessing casual nudity.
You keep going on about context. What context? OP doesn’t give any context, only that she is naked around other people who are obviously uncomfortable about it and wondering what they thinking. How is this supposed to be interpreted in any way other than OP putting other people in a situation they do not want to be in?
We are not imagining scenarios where we get to be victims, we are trying to explain to you that we would not be comfortable with the situation described, and despite you saying it’s not complicated, you attack us and call us prudes. Also, the person being referenced in OP’s meme is a victim, no imagining about it
Well why try and shame them for their culture?
See, there’s a difference between “Yeah I’d rather keep my clothes on” rather than telling other people “You should keep your clothes on in your own house with friends who are also comfortable being naked”.
This isn’t at her own house though. Her fling’s friends are around, so chances are it’s at her fling’s house.
I mean what if I as a man were to decide to hang out naked at “a fling’s” house when her friends are over and I didn’t ask any of them if they’d be comfortable with me taking my clothes off? Suddenly the situation seems different, right?
This is just the same old casual minimization of men’s concerns when their boundaries or consent is being violated, because “You’re a man so you should just shut up and enjoy this. Consider yourself lucky to bask in the presence of my feminine nakedness.”
Not really, I’ve been in that situation. Her buddy said nice dick, people laughed, that was that. When I got across the room to where my clothes were I got dressed. You might just be a prude.
Okay, I’ll just start hanging out naked around people who didn’t agree to see my junk, and if anyone feels uncomfortable I’ll call them a prude. We’ll see how that goes.
Your anecdote about a few people who happened to be pro-nudity doesn’t change that. The same situation could’ve landed you in jail and registered as a sex offender if your audience happened to be different.
No it couldn’t when you’re in a private space. Plenty of people have seen my dick because they came into a space where I was free to have my dick out for whatever reason. Never had an issue. Are you autistic or just really bad at social cues? This isn’t complicated. There’s times and places that nudity isn’t inappropriate. Private spaces are one. Have you ever seen in person the opposite sex naked? It’s not a big deal.
There’s a difference between “I’ve been naked with another adult in a mutually consensual situation” and “oh haha, let me just hang out naked to make people uncomfortable so I can laugh at them.”
Did you not read the OP?
Yes. If people come into my private spaces they do so with the understanding that they may see me nude. Given the context of the op the implication is the flings friends came over after the fling had some fun and thus came into the nude persons space where they’re allowed to be naked. Their discomfort with her nudity is their problem. You’re projecting that it was some sort of power play when a remarkable number of people just aren’t bothered by nudity because it’s not inherently sexual.
So in the same vain you think it would be acceptable for the protagonist of this meme to start cutting themselves as an act of self-harm infront of other people? Or took a shit in the living room? No matter if it made the observers uncomfortable?
My point is that there are things that make people uncomfortable and they are socially conditioned. There is a line over which you can pass in that you are harming others.
Imagine trying to equate comfortable nudity and accepting one’s body to “YEAH BUT WHAT IF THEY STARTED CUTTING THEMSELVES NOW WHAT!?”
What a weird reach. Just admit you hyper sexualize nudity and get it over with.
Imagine trying to tell everyone else that your culture and belief system is right and others are wrong.
Quite imperialist.
What belief system? I am comfortable being naked. I find other people who are also comfortable being naked. We share being comfortable being naked together. We are not naked in front of others who are not comfortable with themselves or others being naked.
It’s not hard, bro. I’m not gonna drink booze in front of a recovering alcoholic. I’m not going to tell war stories to someone with severe PTSD, and I’m not gonna be naked in front of someone who isn’t in on also being naked.
You do whatever you want to do. I’m not the one judging here. I have a partner who loves being naked and I love being naked with. We have friends who also love being naked who we all spend naked time with.
Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.
That’s not what this post is about.
Sounds like something you should tell OP…
I think that is one thing the original post is missing and I am suggesting is necessary.
That is an insane comparison. It does not help your argument one bit.
It’s all about context. Deliberately exposing yourself without consent to someone could cause similar harm.
Up until the above comment, that is what the commenter was implicitly arguing, that it was fine to force your nakeness on others.
No, its kinda weird to casually hang out naked, like what’s the motivation behind it?
When you’re all comfortable being naked together, and pan/poly while being open with sharing partners… Why casually hang out with clothes on when everyone would rather be naked? Like, what’s the motivation behind it?
That’s not what this post is about, this is obviously about doing it in front of someone who hasn’t been consulted about it and is visibly uncomfortable.
Edit: Normally I don’t get butthurt about downvotes, but imagine downvoting this comment. Clearly people don’t give a fuck about consent when it’s a man whose boundaries are being violated.