• Pondis@lemmy.world
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    Stop pointing out the stupidity! They won’t be able to start wars if the entire army has Measels.

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    I really have tried to understand what US government is trying to achieve by all these stupidity but I can’t get it? Is IQ of Americans really dropped that low, or is there something else going on? I hate to open news every morning now, because there’s always something more stupid things coming from the USA.

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      We have to assume that it is focus group tested. So they are likely doing it because they believe it will win votes.

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      The right realized that if they “yes and” the crazies their base and the crazies adopt each other’s beliefs pretty easily so long as it’s sold adversarially and with anti elitist tone. So yeah now a significant chunk of Americans are feels over reals about shit like medicine

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      One thing I think is going on is an unstated fascist eugenics project, where instead of helping people live they try to set up conditions where many will die. The white supremacists in charge believe that they can filter out the weak and inferior through disease, starvation, and other adverse conditions, leaving behind only the glorious genetically superior white Übermenschen like, er, Donald Trump, Pete Hegseth, Stephen Miller and RFK Jr. There is Nazi thinking behind much of what they do.

      Doing this to your own armies in the middle of a war seems clearly stupid, but then so do white supremacist eugenics and starting a war with Iran.

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        I must say that this looks like some conspiracy theory, but at the same time it looks like very plausible scenarios. I hate it when you can’t tell if someone is cheating on you or not.

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          From what people say in red counties, I completely believe this theory. Culture supercedes logic and there are very few that can think critically and be socially included in those places. Silent ridicule for getting a vaccine is not uncommon because it’s seen as weak or letting the government do what it wants to you.

          It’s just very ironic and sad.

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          I agree that, stated outright, it can sound paranoid and conspiratorial. But think of it as a mindset: “if the poors die that’s because they deserve it, for not being as smart/tough/clever/strong as us”, along with background assumptions about white racial superiority and needing to counter a “great replacement” of whites. Looked at that way, as implicit at least in their outlook if not consciously held, it doesn’t seem so implausible that this is influencing their policy decisions.

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      Remember: look at the average person, and realize that half of the population is even dumber.

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    I have to imagine flu would spread like wildfire under the close quarters conditions soldiers, sailors, and marines have to have under many circumstances.

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      It would. Historically, disease has been a huge problem for militaries. That’s why they give you like a dozen vaccines on day one.

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      This approach is how the Spanish flu spread worldwide. US troops took it from Kansas to Europe and then 50 million people died. But I wouldn’t expect Kegbreath to know any history.

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      TB also spreads quite easily under close quarters, only matter of time since there isnt a vaccine in the usa, and tb is quite naturally resistant to antibiotics. They likely wont even reccomend COVID vaccination too.

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      To be fair I have known perfectly reasonable people choose the risk of malaria over taking that vaccine. Don’t know if they have changed it since I was a kid, but that vaccine was guaranteed to make you feel awful.

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        that vaccine was guaranteed to make you feel awful.

        Malaria, Yellow and Dengue fever are guaranteed to make you feel awful.

        You’ve known perfectly reasonable idiots.

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        I don’t know, I traveled with my parents to several African countries as a kid, and we got a bunch of vaccines, and I don’t remember having any major reactions.

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          How would you rank competent malice, incompetent malice, and incompetent benevolence in order of existential danger to society? I imagine the existential danger increases with both incompetence and malice, but maybe somewhere in there there’s a combination of incompetent malice that becomes unintentional benevolence.

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        It’s both. But millennia of human warfare has taught us that disease can really fuck up an army.

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          These idiots really do be increasing how often we contemplate the Roman Empire…

          …And why we somehow allow leaders that defund history education shortly after they flunked it and went on to win a rigged popularity contest.

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    Hegseth’s directive does allow for the military services to request to keep the vaccine requirement in place

    And I guarantee they’re all going to do it, because they aren’t fucking morons.

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    One bout of flu thru there will knock them all on their asses.

    Maybe it ain’t mandatory, but if any of them were smart they’d get the vax anyway.

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    In boot camp there was always a few people who faked snorting the vaccines…

    They always get ridiculously sick, and if a division has a high enough percentage, everyone gets a second “peanut butter shot” as punishment.

    Because lying about taking the flu vaccine is breaking an order, and surely no recruit would do that…

    So it can’t be a virus, and the only solution is treating it as a widespread bacterial infection:

    https://www.military.com/off-duty/2020/02/10/why-most-dreaded-injection-called-peanut-butter-shot.html

    There’s more than enough idiots that if flu vaccines aren’t mandated, it’s going to run Tampa t across every single command. It’s too many people jammed too close together.

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      Never knew it was called that. Had to run our asses off and push earth after that shot and our instructor said they did that on purpose. TIL

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      Stupidity kills more people than bombs.

      In the 70s, a paper appeared that linked DDT to reduced bird populations, triggering the US Nixon government to ban DDT. The data was 100% faked by Rachel Carson.

      As a result of banning DDT, and estimated 100 million people died worldwide until DDT was brought back in 2000. Carson was given all kinds of awards, accolades and a bronze statue at Wood’s Hole. To this day, people supported her “science”.

      Shit governments listening to shit fake scientists have killed more people than Hitler and Stalin combined.

      The whole point of vaccinated army is to be the last level of support in the next flu pandemic.