“You will die”.
Sounds like AI is bringing back natural selection.
For reference / non electrical engineers / visual learners:
https://engineerfix.com/electrical/plugs/how-to-wire-a-us-plug/
NA 2 Prong, Type A
NA 3 Prong, Type B
‘Earth’ = Ground = the 3rd, round prong
You can maybe see the AI has kinda sorta merged elements from both of these.
The main problem is that uh… notice how in these real diagrams none of the lines are looped into each other, they are 2 or 3 distinct lines that feed into whatever is being plugged in…
… whereas in the AI diagram… it just forms a continuous loop.
Which… basically means that what the AI labels as ‘neutral’ and ‘ground’… aren’t.
Doing that would instantly cause a short cicruit and potentially immediately start a or multiple fires, trip circuit breakers, etc, depending on the voltage/amperage avalaible to the outlet this AI ‘death-plug’ ie connected to, and how long it takes the circuit breaker to trip.
… thats my layman understanding, corrections from any actual EEs would be appreciated if I’ve mucked something up.
You will trip a breaker or 2. But you won’t die. This is an exaggeration. Nevermind it wouldn’t even fit a plug? If I ask it to do the same, it creates the following schematic.
https://g.co/gemini/share/0e1d197c002b
Not saying you should use any LLM to create something critical.
color-coded screws? wtf
You’re in trouble if you also have a broken neutral somewhere.
But yes, the most likely outcome is breaker goes pop.
If this truly needs to be said, a giant meteor is too good for us. I get that people are stupid as fuck but Jesus, trusting your life to AI at this point is next level idiocy
How come he didn’t promote chatgtp
Everytime someone ask AI for wiring diagram, Medhi’s mom will go slap them with a slipper.
anyone who asks AI for any help at all.
I’m sending this to my electrician friends.
It’s almost as though an AI designed to make pictures of kittens with boobs has no understanding of how electricity works.
What the actual fuck. The prongs aren’t even oriented correctly. And the ‘live’ wire is just tied to ground.
So glad we’re burning down the rainforests for this.
I was curious and found we do actually have plugs with those pin orientations.
It’s 240v though, which means two live wires on opposing phases shorted together and connected to the appliances ground wire… Even better.
I plug in my arc-welder.
I exit existence.
No no no, you just get assigned to the great omni pattern buffer, may O’Brien find and rematerialize you as soon as he is able =P
Whoever thought this would burn your house down didn’t read the diagram. The only wire external to the circuit is the ground.
This is 100% a safe way to wire an outlet, provided you don’t expect it to deliver power.
This is a plug, not an outlet; and it shorts the live + neutral pins together. There is no ground pin present, though a wire labeled ground is also being shorted to the live+neutral pins. (basing ‘pins’ on shape/colour and ignoring that at least one is in the wrong position)
If this doesn’t immediately trip the breaker when plugged in, it’s because you have an open neutral; and now whatever’s on the end of that ground wire (typically exposed metal) is live.
The live and neutral pins are wired together, so there’s not really a reason for the power to travel to that ground wire. Unless the path to the ground of the device, and then from there to actual ground, is shorter, then nothing will flow that way. It’s absolutely not safe, but a number of other factors would need to be present before it were deadly.
Unless the path to the ground of the device, and then from there to actual ground, is shorter, then nothing will flow that way.
That’s not true. Electricity will take all available paths to return to ground, with current flow relative to the resistance present. In other words, two low resistance paths will share similar amounts of current when both are connected to power.
If you were touching anything connected to that ‘ground’ wire while also connected to a true ground yourself; you could receive a harmful shock from plugging this in, even with a breaker in-line and successfully tripping. A GFCI device should prevent that shock, but a regular breaker will not trip fast enough.
True actually. If this were the plug for a washing machine, and you were touching it and the tap for the water inlet, you would definitely get shocked still. Edit: The washing machine itself also wouldn’t generally have a connection to ground that way, as they usually use plastic hoses.
I’m not sure which of you is correct here but it’s fascinating how confidently people on the Internet will make statements. I’m sure one of you has earned that confidence but I’ll never know which one. Sadly, the other person should question their life choices pretty hard.
Unless I’m reading this thread incorrectly; I believe Norah was mistaken in the comment I replied to, but came around with my explanation.
The mindset of ‘electricity takes the path of least resistance’ is really quite common and was actually taught in my highschool; but it’s rather misunderstood, if not outright wrong.
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I wouldn’t say connecting the ground wire of an appliance to the hot side of an outlet is very safe.
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This question has already been answered many times over in the comments.
So you don’t want to explain
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/21237626
I already have.
Why are people up voting this? You’re talking utter nonsense in multiple ways.
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The earth wire typically is connected to the metal casing of the appliance, and the earth pin of the plug. This is a critical safety feature, which will cause the circuit protection to trip in the event of phase touching the metal of an appliance.
Connecting phase directly to the metal is an excellent way to kill someone.
First, both ‘neutral’ and ‘ground’ are leaving that plug.
Second, that ‘ground’ wire is connected to both live and neutral, with no actual ground connection present. The other end of that wire is presumably connected to the exposed metal of the appliance this plug would be powering. Just calling a wire ‘ground’ doesn’t make it ground nor safe; it has to actually be electrically connected to a grounded point.
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The ground wire is connected to ground, per the diagram.
The ground wire in the diagram is not connected to your house’s grounding device. It is connected to the ground of the appliance, which has no such connection to the actual, physical ground.
There’s a terrifying number of confident morons in this thread that have no business touching anything electrical.
Just like AI itself. The blind leading the blind. Into electrocution and/or a house fire.
No, the ground wire is connected to the metal casing of the appliance. It’s typically connected to ground via the plug.
This is how people die.
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Because it’s a diagram of how to wire a plug, not a power cable.
This is like expecting a diagram of an intersection to also have a road map of the entire area.
Also, as others have pointed out, that’s assuming the neutral isn’t broken.
This picture doesn’t show how to write sticker, but now to write plug. The wire that’s labeled ground is actually attached to live connector, although I guess that doesn’t matter as live and neutral are shorted by white wire.
The wire coming into the circuit is the ground, though. Anything after that is irrelevant since the ground is the only wire present.
Plug, not outlet. It’s even labeled as such
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No, it’s not the only wire in the circuit. If that plug is plugged into an outlet, then the hot live wire is coming into the circuit at the pin labelled live, and connecting to the ground wire of the device. That ground wire is usually connected to the metal frame of an appliance. Because of the white wire connecting the live and neutral pins together, it’s going to immediately flow back to the breaker box. However, if for whatever reason the path from the ground of the device to actual ground is shorter, then the electricity will flow through the device. It is possible for a person to be in the path to ground. The way this is wired might also circumnavigate an RCD, preventing the safety switch from operating correctly.
An RCD measures the difference in current flow between the phase and neutral, so it will trip in this scenario. An alternative path to earth is precisely what they’re designed to detect.
Ah yeah, you’re right, my mistake. It’s wild to me as an Aussie that they aren’t universal in the States. Plenty of houses (or outlets?) don’t have them IIRC?
Labeled as ground that mysteriously vanishes in the machine???
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It should; but it’s also important to note breakers are not intended to prevent electric shocks, they are intended to protect the wiring within your walls.
The time in between this being plugged in and the relevant breaker tripping IS enough time to receive a harmful shock from that ‘ground’ wire. Preventing this is the purpose of GFCI devices.
Unless you have a broken neutral, in which case someone dies.
wire an outlet
It says plug in the title.
I was gonna write the same. This is completely dumb but at least it’s safe.
Connecting the earth wire, which goes to the metal casing of the appliance, directly to phase definitely isn’t safe.
And where does phase go to or come from? The picture shows a short of piece of wire labelled “phase” but that doesn’t magically make an otherwise unconnected piece of wire anything active. If labelling anything “phase” could produce energy, boy would my energy bill go down fast 😂
I keep to my statement: The pic shows a completely dead “circuit”.
I mean what the fuck am I even seeing?
and also, spicy ground.
JUST. WHY. There are so so many freely available photos already online that don’t need to be generated AGAIN
Doesn’t this just bond neutral to ground? It’s definitely illegal and will kill you if some other device has a short and makes ground hot, but at least it’s not a suicide cord
this shorts live and neutral, ground pin is not even present (different shape) otoh if you need help wiring a plug, you probably shouldn’t
There’s no ground pin, but there’s no hot wire.
hot wire is in the socket, assuming it was wired correctly
This is a plug. The big pins are live + neutral, which are shorted together and connected to the wire labeled ground (which heads to the exposed metal of whatever appliance is on the end of this cable).
Yes there is, the earth is connected directly to phase.
Yeah, this circuit would do a whole lot of nothing since the ground is the only wire entering the circuit.
It would put phase directly on the metal casing of the appliance, if the circuit protection didn’t work.
Please avoid the temptation to comment on something you know nothing about, this is actually a serious safety concern if someone followed this diagram.
Even worse. Orientation of pins like this is used in 240V circuit which means it has two antiphase live wires. This means that after shorting them, if one trips but not the other (if these two have independent breakers - idk if code requires otherwise) 120V is sent to device ground, and this one can be cut off by GFCI if used, but i hear it’s uncommon
If it was normal 120V circuit, breaker would cut off live and left neutral connected to device ground, which still can be some 20V depending on conditions
Ooh, I hadn’t even thought about voltage being backfed through the neutral.
Have you heard of something called a floating neutral? That could cause some issues.
Yea, but at this point multiple things are seriously wrong
It’s just a really exciting circuit breaker tester…
Gemini says don’t use breakers.
Ahh, you must be a fellow viewer of ElectroBOOM.
