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  • cecilkorik@lemmy.catoTechnology@lemmy.worldCan machines suffer?
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    2 days ago

    Hold on, imma go shove a bagel in mine. Yeah, that’s right, you take it, you filthy toaster. I’m never going to clean your crumb tray and you’re going to work until you die and then I’ll just throw you out and replace you like the $20 appliance you are. You’re nothing to me!






  • That’s one of the fun things about AI model collapse. The AIs will start polluting their own training data (already have, actually) and the more prolific and capable AI gets the stupider their training will become, and it will never get better again, it will just eventually reach a steady state of some stupid AI creating training data just barely non-stupid enough data to be believable to the other stupid AI deciding whether it’s valid training data, which makes them both slightly stupider until it can’t create non-stupid enough training data anymore, at which point the data quality will start to improve marginally due to the increased proportion of human efforts, and then the cycle will repeat, endlessly. There is no way out of an AI polluted training data set except by adding more real human data. Arguably we’ve already hit peak AI because of this, and this is where it’s plateaued and where it will likely stay once the bubble pops, with only slight incremental progress from then onwards. It’s probably not going to be taking over the world anytime soon. It’s a reflection of our own collective creativity and effort. It’s a confusing, byzantine, hall of mirrors reflection, sometimes funny-shaped reflection, sometimes a scary reflection, but it’s always ultimately a reflection. It’s not intelligence. It’s just ourselves. There’s nobody on the other side of the mirror but ourselves.


  • I’ve always thought it was bizarre too. Nobody in my social group has watched it. We all know of it, obviously there was huge media coverage, we know sort of what it’s about. I assume I’m just an outlier in a group of outliers, but it’s still so strange. Did millions of bots go to theaters and watch it? Somebody must’ve watched it, or watched it multiple times. People obviously still watched this new installment. I just have no idea who. You’d think some of these people would have to be passionate about it, but… you never see or hear them. There are no people dressing up and going to AvatarCon, or even going to ComicCon AS Avatar characters. It’s like it’s a secret society, first rule of avatar club is nobody talks about avatar club. I don’t get it.


  • It resembles him, that is more or less what he looks like, but it feels incorrect to say an AI generated image is an image of him. Before AI, all his thumbnails included him making stupid faces like this (because it was very effective). Now he, and everyone else, just uses AI images resembling him making stupid faces (because it is unfortunately still somehow effective)

    The social media algorithms have turned most people’s brain attention pathways into mush. Sometimes people get a shovel and a mop and start trying to dig their way through properly, but a lot of times they don’t get very far before it starts seeming impossible to make useful progress. It’s usually easier to just swim in the slop.





  • Are they going to suffer? That’s what we’re supposed to believe, but remember that money is a human-made concept that only has value because we collectively give it value, and the economy is built on that very important principle.

    That situation you describe is real, it will disrupt their efforts a little and protect us in the short term, but in the long term, the meaning of money and economy is changing. they’re doing everything they can to use automation to build a new post-scarcity economy based on ownership, membership, services and control. And beyond that, it frankly doesn’t include us or even think about us.

    That’s what the wealth divide is. It’s the way that money, as an economic representation of their values, is telling us that their motivations are not about making all existing humans on this planet more comfortable and productive and independent. In their vision of this future economy, they are instead hoarding humanity’s collective efforts for themselves, reinvesting it into their own technology, They focus their efforts on what they personally consider important for “progress”, chasing their own utopian ideals for the specific goals and groups they consider the best and most important, while the rest of us that aren’t part of those goals or groups are pacified and left behind and, if you really think it out, eventually eliminated. After all, a utopia won’t include teeming, growing masses of humanity using up all the available resources, that would be a plague, and they eventually will decide to cure it if they haven’t already started. Their vision of the future only needs to have enough room for them and the more utopian they make it the less of us there will be. They want to be the main characters, we’re just nameless extras who do chores and fill in the background for now and can be ignored to go wherever extras are supposed to go when they’re no longer on the screen.

    Their view of humanity is abstract, and they believe what they are doing is right, all the way down to the core of their being. They simply don’t value humanity’s rich tapestry of lived experiences or the sanctity of every individual human life. They’ll never make it a priority. They care more about making sure humanity has become “advanced” or is multi-planetary than they do about making sure every human has a home, or food. That’s their vision. It’s about humanity as a whole, not about individual humans. We can all be sacrificed so the species becomes safer. Scientifically, I can’t even say they’re wrong. But philosophically, I hope we can all agree that this is deeply wrong and morally bankrupt. We need to start to reclaim our individual humanity and go back to putting people first. We need to care about people in the present, and always, not just the abstract idea of humanity’s future. We need to take our money back and use it for a different kind of progress.




  • Kessler syndrome seems increasingly inevitable as we potentially approach some of the great filters that explain why we’ve never met or detected any other civilizations in the universe. It’s been a fun ride, folks, but it seems like we might not have threaded this particular needle, finding it was ultimately narrower and our thread thicker and clumsier than we expected and we might instead be reaching the end of the road on our multiplanetary ambitions. Will we get to Mars? Maybe. Will we survive and thrive there? Doubtful.