A new poll shows that about 4 in 10 Americans say Trump has been a “terrible” leader in his second term.
The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research also found that about 2 in 10 think he has done an average job in his presidency and 3 in 10 says he’s been a great or good president.
44% say Trump’s focused on the wrong priorities in the AP-NORC poll, 21% said an even mix and 10% don’t know
Calling hIm “terrible,” undersells it. He is, by all objective measure, the most prolific traitor in American history, literally worse than all other American traitors COMBINED.
He was already firmly established by historians as the worst president in American history following his first term, despite historians usually wishing to wait a decade before making their assessment. He was such a terrible president in his first term, that they didnt have to wait for his legacy to settle. Now he is only digging the hole of his legacy even deeper.
So 6 in 10 Americans are morons? That tracks.
6 out of ten said what? This is fine…?
2 in 10: Average 3 in 10: Great
If you all could just try to not take the rest of the planet with you, that’ll be great.
You really got to wonder what that 2 in 10 thinks about the history of presidents of this country. I mean there’s been some stinkers but Jesus.
Fucking politicians. All the same ain’t they.
Edit: …is what they are thinking.
Corruption and greed is a basic human instinct.
You really got to wonder what that 2 in 10 thinks about the history of presidents of this country.
It’s honestly weird to see people hyperventilating over Trump when I’ve lived through the Bush post-9/11 War on Terror and the Reagan Era War on Crime.
Both had wildly unconstitutional surveillance and arrests, extra-judicial black sites and torture prisons, partisan purges of agencies, corporate multinationals capturing government agencies, and all sorts of naked corruption.
Trumpism isn’t new, it’s just poorly marketed. The biggest difference between Trump and his predecessors is that the media clapped like seals when prior admins were committing these atrocities.
Did they have their own gestapo invading government agencies?
Bush had Liberty University graduates flushing out the Clintonites from the FBI to the SEC to the EPA. He very famously purged the DOJ in order to influence prosecutions, then groomed a new generation of governors and house reps with the replacements. Bush also oversaw the DHS and the militarization of immigration through ICE.
Reagan had the Heritage Foundation hires who oversaw dismantling public sector unions (the FAA most famously). He tried (and ultimately failed) to eliminate the Dep of Energy. His administration also heavily privatized the US military, which cleared the way for companies like Raytheon and Halliburton to assume critical roles in manufacturing and logistics - a role Elon’s Starlink is currently usurping.
True but, to me they merely laid the foundation for the third reich. The current administration is hitler shit in practice.
Then: Remember the outrage and confusion when podunk sherrifs departments in Armpit, Anywhere were getting MRAPs.
Why would the police need war vehicles to police their own people?!?!?
Now: Ahh! Now I get it.
Gtfoh I remember all that shit too. You can’t possibly equate the Reagan era with this. They emphasized the neighborhood watch. That’s a big fucking difference between a neighborhood watch and (God damnit, this is gonna be a long list) checks notes deep breath; official memos to report anti-christian “bias”, ignoring court orders, abducting people to foreign prison camps, ignoring the 1st amendment, gangs of masked men flying swastikas and disrupting lives in public, pardons for violent criminals and major fraud crimes, election tampering, political vendettas, money laundering (meme coins and truth social), human rights violations, throwing away global stability for profit, pulling aid from allies, mocking and taunting allies, promoting random nobodies to prominent government positions, a literal felon president, arresting US citizens at the border, promoting RUSSIA, and I know I’m missing like, several dozen other horrendous things that makes Reagan’s presidency comparatively cute.
And that doesn’t even mention paying off a pornstar for silence about leveraging his power to influence her career, also known as rape. Or the other rape and defamation cases, or all of the hardworking Americans who built businesses that were ruined by trump not paying his debts, and drawing out the courts? How many people became homeless or committed suicide as a direct result of trump not paying his debts? Now millions of people are going to die globally because trump is pulling the same shit on a global scale.
America has a debt, and it’s not just the national debt. We have a debt to the world for making it suck so much worse. The globalization of our economy sucked everyone into our vortex of destruction. There isn’t plastic in Tibets glacial melt because of their actions. We owe the world because the reason this is the wealthiest country (for now) is because we shit on the rest of the world to do it. Even the excessive debt and selling of our debt, it’s all just this extravagent hubris… It’s gross. It’s like “yes! Bask in the exuberance! Buy my money so I can have more money!” And now consumers and countries alike are like… Uhhh wtf? No.
This is our downfall. Not just the fascism that’s growing, but that this bullshit is making other countries realize that they don’t need us at all. Not our money, not our defense, not our tech, not even our food! The world doesn’t need us one bit, and a lot of people on every side are just now figuring this out. Unironically, this will actually probably lead to a rise in health and living standards around the world. Except for America, that is.
SWAT Teams were not a Neighborhood Watch. The MOVE Bombing was not conducted by a neighborhood watch. Iran-Contra wasn’t committed by a neighborhood watch. The invasion of Grenada wasn’t done by a neighborhood watch. The Wedtech scandal wasn’t a neighborhood watch affair.
I know I’m missing like, several dozen other horrendous things that makes Reagan’s presidency comparatively cute.
You’re neglecting a litany of crimes and scandals and dystopian expansions of the security committed under the Reagan administration.
Reagan was happy enough to wrap himself in the Southern Cross. Why apologize for him like this?
I could see Trump being average among the atrocities of prior presidents. I see absolutely nothing wrong with hyperventilating at each and every one of them, though. Average doesn’t mean acceptable.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with hyperventilating at each and every one of them, though.
Treating each President as uniquely bad leads to people losing sight of the structural problems with the state because of their fixation on the ideosynchrosis of individual office holders.
Trump isn’t merely using the presidency incorrectly. The presidency is designed as a vehicle for inflicting brutality and he’s just aiming it at people we sympathize with.
As of 2022 only 38% of the population keep up with current events
How can they? There is little news left. Just propaganda.
There’s a shitload of media coverage on all the shit Trump is doing, what are you talking about.
By definition all news is propaganda
It’s a bullshit poll. 10% selected “I don’t know.”
The AP-NORC poll surveyed 1,260 adults from April 17- April 21, using a probability-based method from AmeriSpeak. The margin of sampling error for the poll is plus or minus 3.9 percentage points.
He’s underwater at 54.6% unfavorable on YouGov as of five days ago.
https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/trackers/donald-trump-favorability
He’s 59% unfavorable on Pew Research Center as of three days ago.
I mean, these numbers are still crazy low relatively speaking.
They’re the lowest in
presidential history70 years. Don’t forget, they’re not exclusively asking informed people.No they’re not lol. The lowest in the first 100 days maybe. Don’t just believe headlines.
Have a look at Truman’s approval numbers towards the end of his term.
Don’t bring facts to an opinion fight.
George W. Bush had the highest disapproval with 71% on 10/10/2028.
Harry Truman had the lowest approval, hitting 22% in 1951 and again in 1952. From secondary source Wikipedia (it’s the internet; how hard do you want me to work?).
George W. Bush had the highest disapproval with 71% on 10/10/2008.*
FTFY
Thank you! I was so confused initially by these time traveling pollsters.
The 52% AP-NORC result has a margin of error of 3.9%. That puts the 54.6% YouGov poll squarely within it. Pew Research was April 7-14 and doesn’t have a margin on its first page, so I didn’t look further.
Not sure why you don’t think the YouGov poll is also bullshit since it is lower than Pew.
Yougov is a private company based out of England and founded by rich right wingers. They exist to profit from and meddle in American politics.
Fair point. They both typically use smaller sample sizes than Pew or Reuters/Ipsos as well.
They were probably afraid to speak for fear or being deported
I misread it as 4/10 say he’s good, and still thought WTF?!
It’s because we’re literally surrounded by nazis
Could be 6 out of 10 said he should be put into the ground, it could also be 6 or if 10 said he should be the next pope.
2/10 Say he’s average. 3/10 think he’s great!
1/10?
Probably something like:
4.3 terrible
2.4 average
3.3 great
4 in 10? Are these polls conducted in Mobile, Alabama?
They’re conducted by calling people who answer the phone when an unknown number calls. So boomers.
Actually, people who answer the phone, hear a machine say it wants you to take a survey, and bother answering it… Dems some ooooooold people
Only 4-in-10? That’s disappointing
It’s why the US will fail, quickly.
It’s more than the people who voted for him…
If you force no to low info non-voters to vote it doesn’t fix their ignorance. You just get Australian elections.
So 60% of Americans are pieces of shit. That tracks.
How THE FUCK is it only 4 in 10?! Have they been bound, gagged, and held away from any goddamn newssource? This incontinent incompetent asshole is qualified to sit in a fucking jail cell, that’s it. God this country is stupid…
How THE FUCK is it only 4 in 10?! Have they been bound, gagged, and held away from any goddamn newssource?
No, but there are millions who basically do not consume news outside of social media. And as you see on social media, people constantly complain about having to see “politics” and many try to block anything regarding that.
I was venting… I work with people who complain that they were inconvenienced by protesters but also wont listen to why they were protesting… I feel tired and old.
Hell it happens here on Lemmy. And tbh I’ve thought about doing it too, shit’s way too depressing right now.
Alternate title - 6 in 10 Americans don’t think Trump is a terrible president.
Is this supposed to be better?
Like it or not (I don’t) the horrific immigration policies get a lot of support. Other countries are taking notice too.
Germany is considering removing German citizenship to dual passport holders if they are deemed “extremists” (but with no clear definition of what that means and how it would be determined).
Since before Trump 2, Italy has already had its own camp in Albania for immigrants and it’s share of friction with judges who said these deportations were illegal.
Also “let Russia have Ukraine, why do we care” has enjoyed the sort of support people are ashamed to admit but that translates to votes to all the worst politicians.
the horrific immigration policies get a lot of support.
Which just demonstrates the stupidity in this country. If this shit was happening while a Democrat president was in office, they’d be on the White House lawn with guns and nooses. The same exact people.
A lot of the same stuff was happening under the last two D administrations. 3 year olds representing themselves in courts is not a new thing, and most of the detention camps aren’t new. Targeting citizens and deporting to a foreign concentration camp is really the only new part.
So what I’m hearing is democrats think he’s trash, MAGAts still love his soggy ass, and the twats who didn’t bother to vote are not bothering with this poll
(Also fuck those guys the most. This is as much your fault as the MAGAts)
30% of the population thinks tanking the economy, shredding the constitution, and deporting people to what is essentially a death camp without due process, all totally legal and very cool.
Deporting.Disappearing.I got downvoted on another post for stating that disappearing is a term used for events when what happened to the victims isn’t public knowledge. We know who was deported illegally (without due process) to El Salvador.
Disappearing is when a person suddenly vanishes and it sometimes takes a Truth and Reconciliation effort a decade later to figure out where they were buried.
Sure, sure. It’s not disappearing someone if they eventually list their names or let them make phone calls, days, weeks, or months later, it’s just sparkling secret deportations.
Just because they’re doing it sloppily doesn’t mean it’s not disappearing.
Or maybe we should wait a decade before we refer to it as what it is.
Reminds me of this book about interviews with “ordinary” non-political, non-military Nazi party members in Germany. Just regular citizens with jobs and families. “They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-45” (1955).
“The author determined that his interviewees had fond memories of the Nazi period and did not see Adolf Hitler as evil, and they perceived themselves as having a high degree of personal freedom during Nazi rule, with the exception of the teacher. Additionally, barring said teacher, the subjects still disliked Jewish people… At the time of the interviews the interviewees were still not in favor of the democratic Bonn government.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Thought_They_Were_Free
Excerpt from the book: https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html
Sample size was 10 men… The author didnt even speak german
It’s not a poll. It’s a book.
Doesnt matter if you’re writing a book or a poll…It’s a very flawed methodolgy
6 in 10 Americans are terrible.
“He’s really doing the stuff that he said he was going to do,” Tanner Bergstrom, a 29 year old Republican from Minnesota, told the Associated Press. He added that Trump is “not making a bunch of promises and getting into office and nothing happens. … I really like that. Even if it’s some stuff I don’t agree with, it’s still doing what he said he was going to do.”
He’s a Nazi, but at least he’s an honest Nazi.
Honestly, as a sane person yes I do like honest Nazis more than lying Nazis. But do you know what I like more than honest Nazis? People who aren’t a Nazi, I like those way the fuck more than honest Nazis which apparently puts us in the minority in this shit hole of a county
Fully agree, in this unwinnable situation I would want the honest fascist.
I think about Trump the way Steve Carell’s character thinks about Ryan Gosling’s character in The Big Short
“He’s so transparent in his self-interest that I almost respect him”
He’s only doing the actions he promised, but not achieving the outcomes he promised; actions are easy, outcomes are hard. He said he’d tariff everyone and he did, but he also said the cost of living would go down and it actually went up. He said he’d mass deport immigrants and he did, but he also said dependence on social programs would decrease and it actually increased.
Trump/Republicans deliver on actions, Democrats deliver on outcomes. Because the outcomes depend on reality, the actions promised by Democrats are a lot less sexy and exciting.
I did Nazi that coming.
I agree with your take, but I’d like to add some context to it.
Dems constantly go on about the things they want to fix. Public Healthcare. Free College. Money out of politics. Clean air. Clean Water. Etc. But for all the promises they make, we got a Republican healthcare plan that didn’t even include a Public Option, college is more expensive than ever, money is rampant in politics, and all of this with a dose of increased cost of living from housing through food.
I can see grousing that “Yeah, I don’t like what the Shitgibbon is doing, but at least he’s doing what he promised to do!” I think Dems need to take notice here, but the question is: What will they do when the moneyed class starts yanking their chains? Because I am sure the moneyed class is perfectly happy with a fascist takeover of the USA.
It’s really easy to make changes if you don’t care about whether those changes are positive or legal; you can tariff every other country and deport everyone who looks ethnic, but that isn’t actually benefiting the US. Democrats don’t make those kinds of promises because their goal is to improve the US. So… Yeah, Democrats could do the kinds of stuff Trump is doing, but most Liberals wouldn’t want that.
You completely missed the point, like the other commentor who dropped a similar load of excrement on my comment did. Let me spell it out for you. Don’t promise the sun, moon, and stars, when your plan is to put my face in the dirt for the corpos who actually pay your bills. Dem voters get tired of that shit.
Are you saying that Trump fulfilled more of his promises than Dems? He said he’d decrease the cost of living, but it went up. He said he’d bring manufacturing back to the US, but instead he’s killing US manufacturers. Look at the fucking stock market. He didn’t deliver on the promises that matter.
By your logic, Dems should keep doing what they’re doing but make additional promises for random actions. “Well, they might not have fixed healthcare like they promised, but they did eat the 10 club sandwiches they said they would, so at least they’re fulfilling most of their promises.”
I see your whataboutism and respond with what your mother should have told you: Two wrongs don’t make a right. Does anything you said have anything to do with promising us the sun, moon, and stars and delivering more cashola for the moneyed class?
I prefer Dems to Reps, but man, you got your head so far up the Democratic Party’s ass with this bullshit you’re spewing here that you can taste what they had for lunch!
I think Dems need to take notice here,
Just ignore the constituition and the rule of law and get shit done ?
Of course not. Don’t promise things you never intend on delivering on.
Promise things that won’t happen and lie about why. Trump could do everything he’s doing legally and constitutionally, but it would require changing the law and constitution, which wouldn’t happen to the extent he’d need it to.
4 in 10 Americans have an IQ above 12.
44% is not sinking. What has that number moved, 1.3%?
Skeletor is an inconsiderate and mean employer.
Hold on, they’re still asking the other 6. The last one is a dentist.
