• Optional@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Jesus fucking Christ is everyone a complete idi- . . . oh.

    Yes. Yes everyone is a complete idiot.

    Shit.

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        I think her response was literally “Jesus Christ are you serious?” About the signal thing, if they do nothing here she can sue for malicious prosecution and probably succeed under ftca.

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    Seems like they’re going to have Waltz take the fall for all of this. He must have had Jeffrey Goldberg in his contacts list to add him on the Signal chat, and Trump probably thinks he’s been in contact with Goldberg and therefore not 100% loyal to Trump. Getting rid of Mike Waltz over using Gmail improperly would isolate the impact to just him, rather than everyone on the Signal chat.

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      A weather report can be classified. Something that’s been published in the NY Times might be classified.

      Something the Secretary of State writes themselves might be classified. Even saying “I was talking to Prime Minster whoever last week” could be classified even when there’s a photo of the Sec State standing next that Prime Minister on the front page of that country’s biggest newspaper.

      There is no risk if someone stamps something innocuous as classified, but there’s hell to pay if something that’s sensitive doesn’t get stamped classified. So a lot of shit is labelled classified when it doesn’t need to be.

      Not all classified information is about a military operation that’s set to kick off in a few hours.

      Hillary Clinton was very thoroughly investigated and the classified information was a big nothing-burger. Or do you honestly believe the Trump administration gave her a pass because they’re benevolent?

      running her own shady-ass server away from the prying eyes of FOIA

      It’s illegal to use government property for campaign purposes. Obviously Clinton was working towards a presidential campaign (she was working towards it her entire life) so the laws necessitated her to have emails related to that not be on a government server (government property).

      Sorry, Hilary’s emails wasn’t anything. You were just told that over and over again until it started to sound like there might be something to it. But it was nothing.

    • altkey (he\him)@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      That’s all bipartisan system and predetermined positions. Can’t attack your own camp because at the pres race you’d hurt already choosen pres candidate and would be seen as your own camp’s traitor to target so-called allies. Even after she is irrelevant, for it gives a signal you can do this to everyone else, and gives free fuel to the opponent’s platform. Playing favorites in cases of infosec breachea seems wild, but here we are.

      Since it was dropped in the heat of the race, I can get why it was downplayed as a rep-based attack on Hilary, but she’s still okay after all of that, and I fear, she is still pickable for the next pres race instead of any other better candidate.

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      Hillary wasn’t prosecuted, though she probably should have been. But, she was grilled by government committees for many hours.

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        I mean, they investigated it so thoroughly and decided it wasn’t criminal

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              Do you think they would have prosecuted if it had been a low level employee doing the same thing? Running their own private email server, doing government business on that server?

              I think they would have, that’s why I think it’s important to note that they chose not to prosecute her despite it being something that would have been prosecuted for other less powerful people.

              Was it as big a deal as the GOP made of it? No. But, it’s still a rule that everybody else has to follow or they get charged.

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        Wait… So you admit that she was grilled by people who had every intention of destroying her career, and that those people never brought criminal charges… But they should have?

        Do you know more than the people who spent way too much time investigating it? Why should she have been prosecuted?

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      Worst part is there’s going to be someone even more incompetent after him and no one will even remember this guy in a few weeks