• Stolas@lemmy.ca
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    17 hours ago

    Can we feed google employees and their share holders to the displaced puppies please?

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    20 hours ago

    Google’s Finland country manager has apologized for unauthorized forest clearings near Muhos, which have turned 816 acres of forest into an expanse of mud

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    18 hours ago

    Meanwhile, people aggressively defend their use of chatgpt and other google services.

    Actual adults around me think I’m some kind of conspiracy theorist for using alternatives.

    As if problems caused by “AI” weren’t even real.

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    23 hours ago

    how did they get permits to do this? not taking away from what they did, but pointing out that there’s a politician or two that might also share the blame

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        23 hours ago

        The government sold them the land, it’s not like they thought Google was going to turn it in to a nature preserve. They knew exactly what Google was planning on doing with it, and it didn’t involve keeping the trees.

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          21 hours ago

          To be fair, on paper…

          1. Sell land for millions.
          2. Google applies for building permits.
          3. Deny permits because of environmental impact.

          The odds of them completely ignoring step 2 are honestly pretty slim. Building permits are still necessary even if you’re planning on ignoring things like the environmental stuff.

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          I mean sure, but they still didn’t get proper authorization, likely because it comes with environmental assessments, and interventions which could very well include wolf relocation.

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            You’d have to relocate the entire ecosystem. the wolves were there because the food was there. the food was there because the trees where there. If you relocate the wolves to where their food isn’t, you’re just starving a bunch of wolves in a different location.

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              That’s why there’s a lot of research and thought put into where wolves (or any other predator) are released. Often it’s a location where they lived historically but were hunted out. The better solution of course would be to tell Google to shove their data centers, especially with their lawless unaccountable behavior.

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      20 hours ago

      Whoever these nameleless data center tyrants are, they’re of the eminent domain caliber. They don’t need permits for anything.

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        I suppose that would be more cost effective and serve as reparations to the wolves themselves

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      15 hours ago

      What do you mean? Jail is for criminals - you know, the people who get in the way of the wealthy trying to get more wealth.

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    20 hours ago

    In a more just timeline, heroes would feed Sundar Pichai’s worthless carcass directly to those wolves.

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      17 hours ago

      Carcass means already dead, right? I feel like all involved decision makers should be felled like trees. And I don’t mean “one cut”. If you’ve seen how trees are felled, you know what I mean.

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        15 hours ago

        A corpse or cadaver is a dead human. A carcass is a dead non-human animal.

        Dor the trees, I think you mean clear-cutting. And I agree.

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    19 hours ago

    How did this even happen? Did Google clear all that in 1 day? Or can people clear this big of a land and no one gets to know about it until everything is done?

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      It really depends on size of the team and equipment. Three guys with a hand saw, the trees will probably grow back as fast as they clear them. Three hundred guys each running an industrial feller, that’s done by lunch and they’ve got time for some kebabs (maybe an exaggeration, but still).

      If they snuck in a large enough team and clearcut, it’s very plausible they could do that in a week or two without someone visiting and noticing.

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        when one sells property, as one does, nobody expects the buyers to do really dumb shit.

        sell a house. buyer cooks meth in it. house is decommissioned and demolished.

        see? same thing.

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          There are certain basic questions that should be asked when a company known for building massive data centers and employee campuses suddenly offers to buy over 1000 acres of forest land. The first that comes to mind is “what are you going to do with it?”. But that’s just me I guess.

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            I do not plan to cook and sell meth from this house. even if I were to cook and sell meth from this house, I would let you know first because that’s the law.

            I promise 🤞

            see. not that hard to lie about it.

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              But it’s definitely predictable if you’re selling it to Walter white. The solution is not to sell houses you don’t want blown up to known meth manufacturers and not to sell land with forests you want to keep to companies that only buy land to build on it.

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                you’re not wrong. local governments often attempt to use unused property as a way to funnel much needed financial support into the city/state by ways of their own deception.

                we’ll sell you this property and you can do what you want with it. *some exemptions may apply

                in this case, the buyer had enough “fuck you” money to see to it that this turned into a huge mess, ecological and otherwise.

                that said. who’s to blame? is it the government attempting to finance social programs for their city/state by selling unused property to companies? or is it the company that purchased the property and decided they don’t have to follow the laws because they have enough money to do so and in turn destroyed hundreds of thousands of local ecologies out of spite?

                personally, I’m blaming the company. they had no reason to do what they did other than to menace the locals.

                sure the politicians aren’t blameless, but they are operating within the laws.

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                  Both are to blame, as is the person who was supposed to pay attention to whether anyone is amassing enough machinery to clear cut a forest. If nobody had that job, then that falls back to the government making the contract.

                  The company totally had reasons to build there, just not any that excuse clear cutting the forest, just like the government had reasons to sell it to them, just none good enough to excuse not doing their due diligence.

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    Ooooookkkk, this is a step WAYYYYY too far. (Not that Google should be given any leeway.) I was under the assumption that they would keep their construction on pre-cleared and approved municipal land.

    Guess I was wrong. Dammit.