I’VE GOT IT!!!
He just needs to run for president to keep him out of jail! Worked for the last guy, didn’t it?!
That’s… actually a remarkable idea. Eugene Debs ran for President from prison in 1920, after he was convicted of sedition.
Do I think Luigi would make a good President? I have no clue, but he certainly couldn’t be a worse one than Trump. Magione now has international name recognition, and is rapidly becoming our era’s Robin Hood. While I’m not certain he’d win, it would send an incredible message to the healthcare industry, and the billionaire class at large. He has the potential to become the figurehead of a revolutionary movement. It certainly would make the 2028 bingo card spicy, that’s for sure.
“You think everyone should have health care, right? So do I. You think corporate greed and political corruption is ruining this country? I agree. I promise to solve those problems, and you’ve seen my resume. Vote Luigi for President, and we can take the rest of them down together.”
+1
You’ve reignited my desire to vote.
He should create the department of “delay, deny, depose”.
It would be hilarious for him to have private meetings with the health care CEOs. Maybe roll out some plastic sheeting just to get the point across.
He’s got my vote.
He’s too young still. Gotta be 35 or so.
Oh, I thought the minimum age was 70. Silly me.
You think laws still apply in this country? He should run anyways.
If he announces a presidential bid right now I would shit my pants, in the best of ways.
Why do they keep trying to humanize the CEO and claiming that it had a “wife”?
Hitler had a girlfriend. Bin Laden had a wife and many children.
FAFO
The difference between Bin Laden and Hitler was that Bin Laden actually had legitimate beef, based on the colonialist actions of a belligerent ethnostate (and their puppet, the USA) carrying out a nazi-esque regime of apartheid and ethnic cleansing, as well as blowing up countless Muslim human beings with long-range missles in the name of economic imperialism.
So if you do asshole things in support of assholes, don’t be surprised when it comes back to bite you in the ass.
And Hitler…. Well he didn’t have the same effective PR campaign the Zionists do.
Hitler arguably had legitimate beef as well with at least France and the UK. The treaty of Versailles was very lopsided and placed both the blame and reparations for WW1 largely on Germany.
It’s not unreasonable to state that clause 231 almost directly lead to the economic situation and resentment that fueled the German people to reject their political system in favour of radical change (yes, I know Hitler never actually won a fair election, but he did enjoy growing support throughout his ascension to the Reichstag).
Sounds like he had “legitimate beef” with the governments of France and the UK, not goddamn “international Jewry”
Alright, that’s fair. The Jews were a scapegoat for the economy in lots of places at the time though, so it was an easy target to get the masses riled up I suppose.
I’m sorry but Germany may have had beef due to the lopsided terms of the treaty of Versailles but Hitler, there is no excuse for Hitler. He used and abused his own people for the sake of power and tried to enact his warped vision of a perfect “aryan” ethno state by murdering millions of people in the most brutal way possible. Anyone who tries to excuse Hitler’s actions can go get FUCKED.
Also, while Mein Kampf described many races as inferior, the actual mechanics of what would be the Holocaust and the decisions that resulted in the Final Solution were largely shaped over time through small decisions that fed on each other by multiple individuals.
Put differently, Hitler never ordered the Holocaust directly or personally. Yes, he talked a lot about the end if the Jewish race, but to pretend he was solely responsible for coming up with this policy lets the other architects of the Holocaust off the hook way too lightly.
None of that excuses him and his regime overseeing and directing these atrocities though. I think we can all agree that this was a uniquely evil policy for which there is no punishment big or fitting enough (even the Nuremberg trials struggled to (and acknowledged) mete out judgement that was in any way proportional to the suffering the defendants had caused).
That is an insane take
Hitler never ordered the Holocaust directly or personally.
But he fomented, and implicitly and explicitly assented to the entire process. He delegated the authority to others to engage in the Holocaust freely. He could have removed that authority at any time and did not.
Yeah, that’s exactly why he should be held responsible for it, I’m absolutely not trying to debate that.
I’m just trying to get people to look past the “great man theory of history” and admit that Hitler didn’t happen in a vacuum. You don’t get a Holocaust without people around him being willing and able to carry out evil themselves. Which means that saying “Hitler caused the Holocaust” let’s a while lot of other evil people off the hook, who all played crucial parts in making it happen.
I’m hammering that point because it’s so relevant again today. Trump might be an evil narcissist piece of shit, but by himself he’s relatively harmless/containable (see the relatively smaller damage the Trump 1 regime did vs Trump 2). It’s the folks who are just as evil themselves enabling him that are exacerbating the impact this time around. And if we’re ever going to see Nuremberg style justice for this presidency, I’d be extremely disappointed if only Trump gets held responsible.
I’m not disagreeing with anything you said, nor defending Nazi Germany. I’m just pointing out that saying something along the lines of “the difference between Bin Laden and Hitler is that he had legitimate beef whereas Hitler did not” is at the very least reductive.
People don’t follow a reactionary populist for no reason. Without legitimate grievances in German society, Nazi Germany would not have happened. Simple as.
I don’t buy into the great man myth of some people being such legitimate influencers of history that their deeds would’ve existed despite circumstances.
In contrary: It’s the circumstances that allow certain people to influence large enough parts of society to enact their plan/will, but it never happens by happenstance nor in isolation, nor without the help of lots of other people/enabelers.
I did not, at any point, say that Bin Laden had “legitimate beef”.
No, my original reply was directed at hoppeduponcoffee
Yes. Thank you.
The treaty was certainly fucked up, and also, the Nazis used that as propaganda to enflame their base with the “stab-in-the-back” myth.
Also, we can keep playing this nationalists game. One could also argue that France had “legitimate reasons” for being so punitive in the treaty, like, for instance, how they didn’t start WWI.
That’s fair, and corroborates my initial point. Saying Bin Laden had legitimate beef whereas Hitler did not is reductionist at best. Just like the French being super punitive in the treaty of Versailles, the German people had legitimate grievances that were insufficiently addressed by their political leadership, resulting in the king of climate that enabled a despotic genocidal maniac to take power. That doesn’t happen in a vacuum.
Mrs Goebbels made a lovely strudel.
Too bad she murdered all her children.
Are you the same person whose dad used to say that? I remember someone commenting about it on Lemmy and it has stuck with me. If it is you, thanks, and if not thanks anyway for the reminder that there’s always someone willing to carry water and normalize monsters.
I’ve heard Norm Finkelstein say it as something his mother used to say. It’s a reference to how her Apple Strudel recipe was featured in a magazine before the war.
Actually Hitler and Eva Braun got married in the bunker right before they killed themselves. Why do I know this?! Fuck
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That last bit has been ruined by awful people. Just reading it makes me picture the Secretary of Embarrassing Defeat and feel nauseous.
Because UNLIKE the People He KILLED he had a Wife!
-The Media!
Because the media is owned and run by the same class of people as the allegedly murdered CEO.
Damage control i guess 🤷
You know what also had a wife? Another CEO.
Because he’s a human.
Not anymore lol
It’s wrong to dehumanize people, except people who profit off the suffering and death of others. Fuck those people.
Don’t normalize dehamnization. It’s too easy to exploit. These may be bad awful people but they’re still people.
Humans have been responsible for pretty much every evil ever invented besides the god of the bible genociding virtually the entire planet. The only thing more insulting than dehumanizing someone is not doing that.
My take is I don’t want to normalize it to the point that it gives people less ethical than my perception of myself to dehumanize people for the wrong reason, therefore it’s never appropriate. It’s not accurate either. These people are human. Calling them something else trivializes them. “A person, just like me, made this decision” is more powerful than handwaving them as subhuman.
Someone else already griped this thing at me and I replied to it down there. You’re allowed to not want to normalize things. I’m happy to dehumanize people who profit off of human suffering and death.
We live in such a twisted world that a guilty plea has the paradoxical effect of making me even less certain he did it
Theres definitely something shady going on. Have you seen the camera footage of the shooting? His head literally became transparent midway trough.
Totally normal, my head does that all the time right before the cops stick a gun in my backpack at McDonald’s. One of the reasons I stopped eating there.
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Humanity has reached its peak hypocrisy.
Killing other humans is bad, unless its done so by withholding life saving treatment.
Torturing animals to death is illegal. But the vast majority of animals on earth die a slow and painful death within factory farms.
Turning someone into a slave by keeping them trapped in debt is illegal. But this is precisely what the world bank and the imf is doing to poor countries.
I could go on and on listing examples.
“No grievance, political belief, or ideological cause can justify murder.”
Unless it’s sanctioned by the state, of course
Well, that’s called the monopoly on violence for you. Its also a good thing in state theory.
Please do!
holding a plane with a bomb hostage is terrorism. holding the entire planet with nuclear bombs hostage is called ‘nuclear deterrence’
knowingly buying stolen goods is illegal. but knowingly buying goods that were produced trough imperialism and slavery (which is even worse btw) is somehow legal.
Selling a gun to a would-be murderer is illegal. Selling weapons to a genocidal state on the other hand is perfectly fine.
putting poison into someones coffee would be murder. But polluting the environment to the point where it can no longer support life is normal.
The entire system is just designed to look self-regulatory.
“The death of one man is a tragedy; the death of one million, a statistic.” — J. Stalin
u need to post each one of these separately. and regularly.
but bottom line is if it helps the ruling class it’s legal. otherwise it’s not
Killing other humans is bad, unless its done so by withholding life saving treatment.
Or genocide by proxy.
Killing other humans is bad, unless its done so by withholding life saving treatment.
Slow painful death
Literally not, in EU at least, the death is legally mandatory to be the quickest possible method. They usually go for a steel stake straight through the brain.
Spending your entire life inside of a factory farm is mental torture
Too many people treat a guilty plea as a literal admission of guilt. In reality, 99% of the time it’s just trying to secure a lesser sentence. Which is a catastrophe. If they did it, and you can prove it beyond reasonable doubt, they should get the full sentence. If you can’t prove it, they shouldn’t get any sentence. There shouldn’t be any in-between.
Except it sounds like this isn’t a plea deal. You’re describing a plea deal, where the defendant pleads guilty after reaching a deal with the projection. My understanding is this is just a guilty plea. No deal.
Why would he do that?
Is it so they don’t electrocute his balls or suddenly claim everyone he’s related to are illegal aliens and terrorists?
It’s not that black and white. The guy that killed my brother had overwhelming evidence against him. 11/12 jurors voted guilty at two trials (22/24 juries total). But both juror pools included one person who would never vote guilty on a fellow native.
Two hung juries, and my brother is still dead, and his murderer is still without consequence. A plea deal would have done a lot for closure in my family.If the jury was not able to get a guilty verdict, that sucks, but that is the system working as intended.
it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer.
A plea deal would have done nothing except condemn a legally innocent person to a reduced prison sentence. The consequence of such actions just means that a bunch of people admit to crimes they didn’t commit because they feel backed into a corner.
Well then who the fuck was I getting coffee with that morning?!
Nobody cares about that rich woman. This article aims to influence us very badly
Fuck, even Luigi didn’t know that his self is innocent.
How does this help him? Why didn’t he go to trial? Did he just want to get started burning the years of his definitely very long sentence?
What does he gain from pleading guilty?
Guess without any evidence based on the sparse information available…
federal plea + motion to dismiss state case on double jeopardy grounds. If successful, keeps his time federal and makes a possible future pardon less complicated?
I could see pardoning him grabbing a large number of votes based on his popularity?
Just guessing though
Exactly. This is what happened to Ross Ulbricht. Aaron Swartz should have done this too. It’s gambling though, imagine waiting for a pardon your whole life just to regret not killing yourself early instead of dying of old age. Leftists are less likely to get pardoned unfortunately
I guess it means he looses any chance for jury nullification however 😔
Common thing is that they’ll go “guilty plea guarantees leniency, as long as you don’t plead innocent first”, until now he’s been intentionally not saying yes or no whether he did it, in court
I don’t believe he did it even harder now.
Did he though?
“AND I’D DO IT AGAIN!”
Couldn’t you find a better fucking news source?
This shite reads like Thompson was the victim. No, they’re the mass murderers. Fuck this disgusting capitalist narrative
Next time, read a few different sources and post the best one. Not the first corporate trash article you come across
I don’t know why you got downvoted, Brian Thompson was subhuman scum. There’s nothing sad about his death.
Many people are talking in where is the advantage.
Maybe there isn’t. Maybe he just doesn’t like the farce, and it’s tired of all the stupid lies to take personal profit.
May he thinks: “I did it and I’m just going to say I did it, that’s the truth and I’m not going to lie for personal benefits”.
O maybe not. Maybe I’m just projecting my own apathy towards this insincere world in where everyone always lies to get personal gains.
I already had great respect for the guy, if this was the reason, just not wanting to lie, my respect for him will just go through the roof.
