It’s probably because the party that’s supposed to be left of center isn’t actually left of center, and they take their campaign funds from the same donor class as the fascists?
You can still vote blue in general elections, but don’t settle for scraps in the primaries. The DSA is starting to gain traction from the ground up. This is what we need.
The problem is they try to negotiate with fascists, extend the olive branch and create a “big tent.” They use scare tactics because leftist candidates are “too far left” and they want to woo ancient voters who will be dead in 10 years to leave us with a dystopian future.
Don’t try to reason with fools. They’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
So tired of the constant gaslighting from both the centrists and fascists. I get downvoted into hell for mentioning that AOCs creds are questionable if she’s trying to wheel and deal with Hakeem Jeffries.
So we’re in agreement on primaries. Vote actual left candidates in the primaries. That still doesn’t mean I trust the DNC to honor that, after what they did to Bernie in 2016, or forcing Harris upon us in 2024.
In my political hellscape of North Carolina, they only give us the option of write in, dem or Republican. We’re also gerrymandered to the point where my vote only means something in my district, but sparsely populated rural areas have disproportionate sway. Next time, I’m doing research into what actual progressive candidates are out there for a write-in.
Follow the money. Only vote for non-corporate and non-AIPAC progressives.
I voted for Harris to stop Trump, but I blame the DNC for losing. People no longer want “good enough.”
I guess your assumptions are wrong 🤷♂️
Go ahead and continue to support failure, though. Don’t hold your own accountable.
Anything left of center is equivalent to Stalinism with these clowns.
Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Progressive policies have wide backing in the USA. Declaring a candidate “too far left,” is a scare tactic from the establishment. AOC would bring out all the disillusioned voters who sat out in 2016 and 2024, due to the DNC picking establishment candidates, instead of candidates who reflect their values.
What’s working against AOC right now is trying negotiate with Hakeem “pro-Israel” Jeffries. She doesn’t need him, Jeffries is hated right now. She could’ve carried without catering to establishment centrists who accomplish nothing.
Vance is an idiotic couch fucker, who has zero appeal or charisma. A half-empty trash can could beat him.
And every time they cave, nothing changes. Been paying attention for the past few decades? Stop trying to appease the establishment. We should only be supporting true progressives.
I’m slowly doubting more and more about AOCs commitment to the cause of workers. We don’t need a candidate that negotiates with establishment libs. It’s a really bad look for the future of her political career. We need someone who will fight and not cave in order to woo boomer centrist voters who won’t even be around in 10 more years.
I’m happy to take a L in the short term to set up for success in the long term. If we wait it out, we can kick all the establishment dems out within a few years by refusing to go along with the status quo. Show these pro-Israel corporate patsies we can burn their empire to the ground by refusing to support them.
At this point, don’t put it past the GOP (or the DNC) to pay off random women to make false accusations. They play dirty and are scared shitless of these rising progressive candidates.
In fact, I think the establishment Dems would be more likely to do it, because their voter base would be more outraged. The GOP doesn’t care how corrupt or immoral their representatives are.
It’s almost like our country was predicated on having the “liberty” to engage in cronyism and oligarchy.
Yes, let’s also pump them full of methamphetamine and we’ll create good little Sturmtruppens to do the füeher’s bidding.
Dem Socialists? Oh, you mean actual progressives who are doing their job to represent the interests of the people, instead of the ultra-powerful and wealthy?
Sure, I’m about to die. I don’t care I’m screwing over the future of humanity, as long as I die rich.
Typically, if someone were asked to prove they were alive and well, there’d be far more effort to do so than we’re seeing.
It’s been the red scare ever since the reactionaries stopped New Deal progressivism in the 1950s. If that didn’t happened, we would’ve kept pace with the rest of the world.
What a fantastic way to inspire a socialist revolt as a reaction to oppression.
These people are so thirsty for a civil war. Personally, I’d rather just see the union fracture apart. Let these buttwads have their backwards-ass fascist states, while leaving the rest of us out of it.
My options: Vote blue in a general election (which I’d likely have to do).
Primaries: In this state, I get the choice of establishment dem or Republican, neither represent progressive values in a hotly contested tested purple state). My choice of candidates is restricted. There is no other choice than write in, or going with the choices already chosen for me. There was no one else on my primary ballot as a registered dem voter.
So yep, I could’ve wrote in Ronald McDonald for this last primary, and it wouldn’t have made any difference. There are more than enough moderates in this purple state to put the establishment guy on the ballot. I’ll be holding my nose to vote for the establishment guy, because that’s at least better than the “other guy.”
And that’s the state of politics in a battleground state. Always have to vote for the lesser of two evils, not for someone actually any good.
So if my centrist guy gets voted and helps hold back the rest of the party, don’t blame me I guess?