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    MrBeast before 2024. Everyone seemed to be pretty enthusiastic about the guy’s content and I don’t recall him attracting too much drama before the Dawson situation.

    Which is something I just couldn’t compell. A guy who’s content is so extremely materialistic became a symbol of le reddit wholesomeness. Basically all his content is just him being a feudal lord sitting on a high horse, throwing money at peasants performing humiliating acts to his amusement.

    Fucking disgusting.

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    Mr.Beast , Elon Musk , Mamdani , Jordan Peterson ,every podcast idiot out there , the aristocrat family who owns the Daily Mail

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    This was a while ago, but it was a Tuesday night at my bar and Cillian Murphy was there by himself, and he hung out and chatted with me for like an hour, hour and a half. I was a 20-somethiing bartender at the time- there was no one else there really, he had no reason to be nice other than he was just a nice guy. He was a 20-something superstar as well, this was after the Dark night

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      He’s overtly sleazy. Like I don’t see how people don’t see snake when they look at him. I have experience with narcs though, I’ve been gaslighted into rejecting reality by them and once you’re through it once, you see the signs from far away. I guess a lot of people don’t have that experience.

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      Finding out that he did a photo op tearing down homeless camps definitely vindicated my initial bad vibes.

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      So basically years ago Newsom gave you a momentary vibe which matches the way Trump has actually spent two presidencies.

      Now let’s all talk about how much we hate Newsom.

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    Yeah all the time, people are just dumb and willing to look past obvious red flags just because someone acts confident. I mean we literally have a name for those people “con man” short for “confidence man” a man who exhudes confidence while scamming people.

    And yet, everyone just likes confidence even when it’s an obvious narcissist pos and then two years later they’re all crying to me “can you believe Geoff would do that?” And im like yeah it was pretty obvious and you guys kicked me out of your friend group so fuck you too.

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    Me for Bill Gates and Mark Cuban, back when everyone loved them. Bill Gates was basically idolized on reddit, partaking on reddit santa and all that.

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      Gates was smart but mostly he is just another selfish manipulator with a huge hole in his soul. Home computers were new and he made them less than they could have been to keep his company on top. He lied he stole and in the end tried to convince everyone he was a decent person. Everyone else is just catching up.

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      The rehabilitation of Bill Gates’s image after he left MicroSoft was mind blowing. Like here’s the most capitalist capitalist in the world, the Elon Musk of the 90s/early 00s, and otherwise progressive people were fawning over him because he did a little philanthropy at the behest of his wife.

      It’s like listening to gamers talk about Windows being an OS with such wide compatibility, when the only reason for that is market share forcing everyone else to bend to it and write Windows drivers for everything.

      And I still wonder where we’d be in computing if MS hadn’t anointed Intel and their old-timey architecture as the winner of the CPU wars.

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      They weren’t old enough to remember what a prick Bill was. Him being a retired philanthropist is standard whitewashing

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        Yep. He is doing the Rockefeller to buy his legacy. Tossing coins to children for photo ops and building libraries and schools to put his name on.

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      Mark Cuban is a difficult one. He has reduced drug prices to the cost plus a profit margin (which is low*) and so its like “Wow somebody cares!” And this has benefited thousands. But then he says I might fund a new venture and sell Cost Plus Drugs one day; So really he doesn’t care, he’s looking for a big buyer to come in and offer a huge payout to stop the big pharma company losses.

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        Of all the billionaires to worry about, Mark Cuban is way down the list. If we put him under a microscope, we can find things to complain about, but there are so many other better places to direct our wary eye.

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      I think from a Utilitarian approach, Bill Gates still falls into a net positive effect on the world. His foundation alone has saved millions of lives by nearly wiping out Polio and Guinea Worm, and severely reducing Polio. And you can try to argue that it isn’t him personally doing these things, but the dedicated people working at his foundation, but it’s his name on it, it’s his money funding it, and if he didn’t exist the foundation wouldn’t exist.

      But I get it. Not everyone is a Utilitarian, and he’s done a lot of shitty things that are hard to overlook.

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        Melinda pretty much made him do it and he’s making sure to profit off his charitable efforts too.

        Plus he’s got the whole Epstein friendship to whitewash.

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          Also his father steered him into philanthropy.

          But he did make the turn and has followed up and lived it. I think it’s perfectly fine to give the man some credit.

          He certainly stole intellectual property and made substandard software to build his fortune, but when I compare this to someone like Andrew Carnegie these look like pretty minor crimes.

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    It happened to me with many disgraced celebrities, but so far the worst one has been Leonardo DiCaprio. After The Beach, he gives me a horribly bad vibe. Strangely enough, it doesn’t happen with anything he did before The Beach.

    Whatever horrible thing he did that stained his soul to such a degree, it must have happened between Celebrity and the end of filming The Beach. It’s as if he became 25, went to Thailand, and did something that turned him evil or something.

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    I have definitely been the only one in the room to realize that the person everybody likes, is a snake.

    Were I the first and only person in ghe world to realize this? No, definitely not. But in that particular constellation of people in one specific room at one specific time, I was and it fucking sucked everytime it happened.

    There have also been plenty of times where I was the one to figure out late that someone was shitty because I kept believing in the best of them, and that also sucks.

    Can’t judge people who don’t catch on early to someone being a shit person.

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    I’m having this when it comes to the movie Casablanca. Everyone is like “oh, what a timeless romance”, and all I see is a bromance of two guys who won’t let women go to safety with their families unless they sleep with them.

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    There is this one guy I know in the org I’m with who gives me these vibes. I have been extremely open about this. I will not engage with him or talk with him. Everyone seems to like him for some reason, but every red flag for me was triggered for some reason. He comes off as extremely manipulative. As petty and vindictive. As emotionally immature. As ‘not safe to be around’ period. I have not a shred of doubt that he would be a domestic abuser.

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      If it helps, people with autism tend to see straight through people with narcissistic personality disorder. People with NPD tend to try and isolate and ostracize autistic people as soon as they recognize them, because autistic people miss or disregard basically all of their attempts at manipulation. And if a person can’t be manipulated, a narcissist will see them as a threat to be excised.

      People with autism will usually be baffled at why everyone likes the narcissist, because the narcissist comes off exactly as you described. Manipulative, petty, vindictive, immature, etc… And for some reason, the entire group just seems to go along with what the narcissist wants.

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      I’m a DA outreach worker i say 100% trust your gut instinct it’s telling you something. DA perps are manipulative and so tend to be well liked IME. Just fyi there’s a list of DA warning signs here. Every tip for narcissism is someone that does more than their fair share of the talking, always brings things back to them.

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        That is a grim list to read. Especially since it describe my late mother exactly (other than the sexual issues I thankfully know little of).

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        Thanks for that, really. I’ll check it out. I’ve had my fair share of experiences so I have learned to trust the red flags. It just sucks when nobody else seems to notice them (though with this guy I am definitely not the only one noticing as I found out recently…)

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          Yep! I’ll bet there’s a few. The interesting thing is perps often know that, especially when they’re older… they test people to see if they do realise the perp is abusive.

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      But from what you’re saying, not a shred of evidence either. I mean srsly, sometimes we’re just wrong about things, and everybody else feeling differently can be a clue. Not saying you’re wrong, because I don’t pretend to have psychic powers, just that it’s healthy to question our own process sometimes.

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        Not hard evidence but I have heard of some scummy things he has done and he had several pretty bad moments already. But those are easily overlooked or ignored because of his charisma, which I seem to be immune to. Or repulsed by I guess.

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    Used to work with a dude who took great delight in belittling others. He was quite Sr.

    I thought I was taking crazy pills. “Oh, he’s actually a sweetheart once you get to know him”, “He doesn’t mean to be that way”. “He actually really likes me”

    People were bending over backwards to defend a guy who was literally getting off on abusing his position of authority. Everyone seemed to think they were the special one who he liked and respected… they just wanted everyone else to “earn it” like they had.

    It was scary! This guy had essentially formed a cult!

    Anyways, our company got acquired and he was let go during HR vetting. The company doing the acquisition obviously had better due diligence then there was when this guy had been hired: sex crimes against a minor.

    Everyone was shocked (STILL DEFENDING HIM). I was like “oh wow it’s actually crazy how perfectly that tracks”.

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      Anyways, our company got acquired and he was let go during HR vetting. The company doing the acquisition obviously had better due diligence then there was when this guy had been hired: sex crimes against a minor.

      At a previous job for several months I worked 2 desks away from a new guy they hired who’d been in prison for raping his kid. I didn’t find out about this until he got fired for unrelated reasons. I was pissed because when I’d gotten hired at that place the background check they did raked me over the coals about my education history but they didn’t catch THAT. I treated that prick like a human being FFS. Now I google new hires myself to hopefully avoid that situation in the future.

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    I don’t adore anyone, but I try not to think ill of people, either. The self is the lens we see the world through, so if we’re always giving credence to the negative within us, that is what grows and what we see more of.

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      “If you look for the light, you will often find it. But if you look for the dark, that is all you will ever see.” - Iroh

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    I hated Kevin Spacey from the start. He always looked like a creep to me, and American Beauty seemed like a blatant boast of that.

    Of course, it didn’t quite go the way I was thinking. But still, every time I saw people getting hyped, particularly around House of Cards, I was getting a repulsive sensation.

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      I suspect that’s exactly why he became famous. He feels like someone you should hate, affable at first but there’s just something off, so you watch for it and his characters eventually display it.

      I wonder if allegations against him were dismissed simply because he played that kind of character, and people assumed it was a character and not Spacy himself being the character he’s best at playing.

      Or perhaps the characters he played eventually bled into the actor and he became that kind of person. That also seems to happen to actors over time.