• NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    I may be stateside but i’m still amazed that a party that’s supposed to be truly left-leaning is putting out alt-right policies in the U.K.

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      It bugs me sometimes that Labour gets to claim it’s centre-left when it so consistently is fascist.

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          am i? they implement draconian mass surveilance measures, reinforce racism, and tolerate a shocking degree of transphobia. when i look at the things the labour party has done in my life, i see a littany right-wing populist actions that undermine left-wing populist movements. if we use the definition of fascism that fascism is right-wing populism undercutting left-wing populism, i find it hard to see Labour as something other than the slick clean wide smiling acceptable version of Britain’s Ur-Fascism spearheaded by the Conservative and Union Party

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            Yes, you are. If you go purely on definitions and comparisons to actual fascism, you’re wide off the mark. But sure, “vibes” is where we are these days with reasoning.

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    Labour had a historical chance after the Tories have fucked it up so much, and they’re just doing shit all the time

    Hopefully the Green party can save UK

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      The Greens are anti nuclear nimbys, they would plunge the UK into even further trouble especially with their lala land economics. Their immigration policy is also troubling as in the world we currently live in near open borders would collapse the welfare system the UK currently has & also furthers brain drain from poorer countries.

      (I am not against immigration in principle but their stated policy on the matter is absolutely nuts, Marx wrote about how we should invest in the global south and help them up to better living standards, not decemate their domestic talent pool.)

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        Tounchosukd check out https://greensfornuclear.energy/

        They propose changing green party policy on energy to be more practical than idealist.

        When the green party is a minor party, being idealistic is more important. It helps to guide the policy of bigger parties to prevent losing votes to them. When they are bigger or wish to be involved in government, practical reasonable policy is more important.

        Regarding immigration, open borders can be the final ideal and that can be in a phased way. There is no problem with higher immigration if there are the resources to deal with it. In fact its a benefit for the host country and the immigrant, usually. Most economic migrants come seeking work not handouts. Most economic migrants work the jobs that locals don’t want to work. It does have a downward effect on wages, though.

        Like everything, gradual change to ideal policy is usually the best way forwards.

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          Thats nice but until their MPs stop trying to block vital infrastructure & continue to complain about nuclear projects ill never vote for them. Their current policy and actions are something that mean I will never vote for them unless its explicitly changed, which a campaign group doesnt satisfy.

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            That’s fair but when tories are awful for generations, Labor are centre right at this point and lib Dems are useless and trust evaporates instantly, it limits your options.

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                That’s cloae enough to green and policies for the people, not the powerful for me. Only issue I have isbthatbforba party that wanted independence, thrybseemed to have no actual plan after the referendum. What would happen to pensions, government services, national insurance contributions etc. Now they won’t get a vote for years again and that’s after brecit, which was a reason to stay. There’s idealism and there’s competency!

  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    Sounds like someone got caught watching step sister porn, and is now throwing the weight of government behind his shame.

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    Labour not burning piles of political capital on ridiculous pet issues challenge (impossible, any%):

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      Next you’re going to tell me that she wasn’t actually the babysitter!

      Is porn just a giant lie!? If porn isn’t real what is!?

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    This is nothing to do with actual child abuse or real incest porn, and they know it, this is the next step in their war against VPNs and those circumventing their internet “age” real ID checks.

    This will give them what will be an ever expanding big stick to clamp down on anybody they cant force to use their ID checking system, anybody using smaller providers (VPN or Porn) to avoid the checks will be suspect of criminal activity and will have equipment seized.

    The first step was to push the larger providers to comply or get out, the next step is to start to tackle the smaller providers and consumers who at least want to try to stay legal.

    Its never about 100% success with clamping down, its about getting the majority to comply and having useful tools to deal with those who do not, especially as they now stand out far more.

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    Abhorrent ? I would at best call it “annoying” because all porn sites are flooded with it, but abhorrent ? It’s legal to actually do in most countries, INCLUDING the UK 😅

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    Its like all the porn, sometimes the star is who ya want to see who is even following the plot or title?

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    The last lines of a drawing depicting a person stuck in a washing machine is completed

    Door gets kicked down by heavily armed tactical police men

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    Starmer is a knobhead shooting the Labour party and voters in both feet. He’s currently attempting to mimick Reform and Greens to win back votes.

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      Next you’re going to tell me the dude with the massive cock isn’t actually a handyman!? He’s an actor!?