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Good lord, what’s wrong with the other two?
They over-consumed the goods from those countries and they lost their minds.
One of them is probably steam lol.
Fascists.
As someone born and living in the US, I also don’t trust the US or China… or pretty much anyone with my data.
You can trust meeeeeeeee! What’s your first pets maiden name?
I just asked it. It’s “Woof”.
Weird, my pet said the same. Is your password also
*************?No, mine is
*****************, but I honestly like yours better.GayGoatFuckerhas a special ring to it that*****************doesn’t have.
I think this is the right mentality to have.
Data isn’t very valuable if you can’t transmit it.
At some point you need to trust someone
Don’t kid yourselves. Once Europe develops its own big tech, it’s going to be just as untrustworthy. But at least it will be your untrustworthy.
For now, the EU has strong data protection laws that the US and China don’t have. Although it is true that stupid ideas like Chat Control keep popping up every couple of years.
Ideally, though, you put them in countries close to the EU but not part of it, like Switzerland.
Data control laws to prevent the sale of data not the government use of data.
governments often buy data instead of obtaining the necessary warrants, because its easier and more effective. if they can’t buy it, they have to do it the harder way, and the harder way can be made even harder with legislation
The us isn’t fond of other countries spying on you either. The state has not relinquished any amount of power or control in my lifetime. Europe caring about privacy is a facade.
Its one step better at least
Boy do I have some news for you. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
https://youtu.be/Kw96Qh0-rs0 (Gotta use auto-subs)
It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.
It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.
That’s only the excuse the politicians are using. In reality there’s a combination of intelligence services and datamining operations pushing for scanning ordinary law-abiding citizens communications.
Europe tech often times are open source with commercial service.
At least it’s better than whatever Google, Microsoft, or Tencent.
I honestly feel safer with my data in a foreign authorities hands than domestic.
China can’t do dick to me nor should they want to. I’m just a lil guy! The US does nasty things to its citizens on the reg, I don’t wanna be caught up in that!
Yeah just don’t travel to China. Imagine how awkward it’ll be in the airport when they tell you, “sorry, we have all your porn history and we don’t admit folks with poop fetishes.”
I’d like to think they’d be more accommodating.
“Ahhh Mr. Albatross, we’ve seen your social media traffic and we’ve been expecting you! In anticipation of your arrival, we’ve prepared some lovely poop, if you would just step this way…”
Or America, who will reject your Visa for having a meme of JD Vance on your phone
You got us there. America is fucking dumb.
they can do plenty enough to be worried. maybe they can not harm you physically (for now), but by having access to details of the private lives of people, their conversations, and being able to see how they form their opinions, they can use that information to determine how can they reshape public opinion on topics of their interests. this information can be used by themselves, or they can pass it to an ally, and it could be used to change almost anything, like interfere with elections, or further erode the need for privacy so that people are willingly giving up even more data to them
Cool story
Honestly, I prefer someone else’s untrustworthy.
I don’t trust China at all, but I trust them over the US, if only because they have no stake in me as a foreigner.
Yet… they play the long game.
They are all in on renewables. The US want everyone on oil and coal, the US wants the junky to keep and dependency.
We are the bad guys.
I don’t really see how that is relevant. Or how a country’s energy sources alone can determine whether they are “good” or “bad”.
It is an example of China being stable and the US being unreasonable and evil.
I don’t think it’s anything more than short-term versus long-term thinking.
I would not describe either country as “good”, but that has nothing to do with the above statement.
The us focusing exclusively on the short term is what I like consider evil, and the stability of a long term-term focus is good.
If we’re being real I don’t really trust anyone with my data.
Don’t trust anyone, not even yourself.
Full time ass job to keep up with every single security bulletin.
What’s an ass job? Like, butt stuff?
Yes. It’s a shit job. But it’s honest work
Full time ass job
Sounds exhausting.
Leaves you utterly pooped.
Send it to me. I’ll keep it safe. I promise not to share it.
Still a better deal than what all big tech firms offer.
One year later: I’m changing the conditions of my promise.
Still better. You’ll have to promise to share with 180 partners from the get go just to be close to the same level as them. And then do some chicanery.
I live in the US and I dont trust US companies with my data either. They either sell it or are handled by easily exploitable systems developed offshore in India.
So, in that sense I do not trust the US, China, India, or Russia with my data and avoid software developed in any of these places when feasibly possible.
Man, that’s a pretty limited app list.
Even FOSS software? The Linux Foundation’s headquartered in the US.
I do get the rationale, but honestly you could just change that to “proprietary software” and you’d have more options with just as much data security.
Are you giving data to the Linux Foundation?
He clearly says “with my data”?
Yeah, I just send a copy of my medical records to them through email
As an American, I also don’t trust the US firms with my data.
I don’t trust anyone with my data. Regardless of their nationality.
Me either, but I also have zero faith in Europe to guard human rights. There are no good guys here.
Joke is on you, I trust no one with my data.
Me neither, not even myself.
I forgot my own name. Can somebody tell me where my home is?
Try Google it, I’m sure they’ll know.
I dont trust the US with my data … or anything. This place is run by literal idiots and/or criminals.
Elon Musk is the middle of that Venn Diagram.
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4/5 of the people i know in the US don’t trust the US.
You can make that 6/7 (my wife and I).
6 7
You might not, but I do 🤷
Good, also don’t trust european firms either, don’t trust any corporations with your data.
It’s amazing how many people cheer for corporations. There’s few consistents in the world but a big one is corporations are not your friend.
I’m American and don’t trust U.S. firms with data.
To be clear, I also don’t trust Chinese firms.
I don’t trust my own government, and have no reason to trust anyone else at this point, let alone for profit companies. It’s bleak.
I use DeepSeek, because I feel it is less nefarious.
But > 9/10 Europeans use whastapp / messenger for daily basis.
9/10 european companies decide to use Aws, azure or gcp, instructions of Scaleway or ovh.
9/10 europeans use Chatgpt or Claude instead of mistral or Lumo
I’d say that are a looooot more 😒
Yup, probably like >99%
Probably more in the realm of 99.999%. Without exaggeration. Some countries even use WhatsApp for government shit.
So sad, why would anyone freely use WA at all. People use tech without the slightest critique. Pure consumers…
Lumo shoutout!
Watching all the new laws spew out in Europe I don’t trust them, either.
I’m down to Romania and Iceland, now.
Been dumping German stuff like a plague lately, and already pulled all data out of Canada.
I have one thing in Amsterdam, but their laws have been getting worse and worse, and they’re… Nine, I think it is, eyes which is bad for trusting them with your data. Even Switzerland is getting sus af.
Lol who trusts any firm with their data?
20% of Europeans
good, I don’t either and I live here.
