She’s not even looking where she’s pointing and yet she’s got her finger on the trigger.
Weapons handling score 0/10
Also her wrist is bent, which is something that makes me unreasonably angry whenever I see it, whether in real life or in movies/TV.
After all these years I just realized he also has his thumb behind 🤣
That shot is sure gonna look sooo cool… for .5 seconds
Thumb bite is a bloody mess.
Usually only takes one object lesson.
I have a few tiny guns like that. It would jam on the next shot from limp wristing it. She bought it because it was cute, has no idea how to use it.
For the life of me I cannot see why training requirements violate the 2A.
For the life of me I cannot see why training requirements violate the 2A.
I think in a perfect world, we should have some sort of impartial training. In the world we live in, I wouldn’t trust Trump’s administration to set the training requirements. I’m sure step 1 would involve turning over your social media accounts.
Not to mention the guy is holding the buttstock under his armpit and he’s got his other hand all the way up at the end of the rail guard…
Any time you interact with a 2A online they will swear to high heaven that they personally keep their guns locked in a childproof vault and make safety priority one.
Because racists would inevitably set the requirements.
I still think well-regulated militias should be a pre-requisite for owning firearms, at least as far as compliance with the 2A. Like have them be registered and require at least biannual training and ammo inventories, and there you go, easy. But something at least.
Apparently he’s also hugging the side of the gun where hot shell casings eject. I remember the gun people were all over these fools calling various fouls.
GOP Keynote speakers for this violent stunt.
Been saying it for years now:
Perfect hypocrites.
Anyone left at this point is a full-on cultist, fully subsumed into the hivemind.
Hypocrisy is only a failing if you believe in fairness or justice.
That is a disgustingly true observation
These people are the people who say ‘without God, what would stop people from doing bad things?’
They’re fucking sociopaths is what they are, anyone who says that.
What that means is that they literally cannot concieve of the idea of making up their own, independent, at least somewhat consistent moral framework.
The only way they know how to think is backwards, is to justify already reached conclusions.
Altemeyer described this pretty well in Right-Wing Authoritarianism. He argues that right-wing authoritarians value strength above all other traits, and the ability to disregard rules is a signifier of strength. Thus, leaders who cheat are idolized by RWAs.
Which makes any system other than ‘might makes right’ impossible to maintain. Rule breaking is destabilizing but to value rule breaking as an ideal is corruptive and destructive. Systems can’t work if the rules that govern them are not followed well enough. The only system left is one where rules of the mighty can only be enforced through might because everyone is trying to break the rules all the time and won’t exercise any self-control.
But realistically, these leaders don’t want a lawless world, they want a system that upholds rules that ensure their own success and safety. Breaking the rules is a temporary totem for them that only lasts as long as it takes to defy the current system and implement their own. But they require a mob of rule breaking fanatics to do it and that selfish mob still exists after the leaders take charge, so they created the very group that will make it impossible for them to have a their system at all, selfish people who think breaking the rules is a cultural ideal. And that, is why Russia is corrupt as fuck, and GOP America will be as well. Rules enforcement through might gets turned on the same mob they used to gain power. Draconian and brutal because might is the only thing that effectively contains this mob of selfishness. Reason, self control, communication, education, non of that will work.
Without rules we choose to follow, we cannot have a civilization that is anything but brutal and violent, corrupt and inherently fragile.
Fucking classic
I wish the internet would get over its collective obsession with pointing out conservative double standards. They don’t care that they have double standards. In fact its a power move to show that they’re above whatever petty moral code everyone else has tied themselves to
You’re correct, of course. But there are still a certain amount of Republican voters who like to pretend they have principles. Then there are also so-called centrists and politically disengaged folks. Sometimes they need to be reminded exactly who these charlatans are, so there can be no excuse for confusing one side of the political spectrum with the other.
Yeah, I came to the same understanding when I used to counter conspiracy nuts denying climate change and evolution etc.
You’ll never convince them they’re wrong or hypocrites… But people who stumble upon the thread that are not super critical thinkers will see the discussion and you can help them realise the person is actually full of shit.
Sometimes they can lie believably enough that people fall for it, and some of those people will snap out of it when they see the contradiction and logical fallacies.
They’ve beaten you into submission.
I’m not beaten, I’m suggesting alternate strategy
You specifically, explicitly, didn’t do that
What alternate strategy?
To be clear, I think I mostly agree with you, that certain people are entrenched and merely pointing out hypocrisy does nothing to change their ways of thinking. What other options are there?
Idk really, community organizing, forming mutual aid groups, etc. Getting out and talking to your neighbors. Just tired of seeing the same old double standards posted like it’ll matter, and nothing actually getting done besides furious typing
No, you didn’t. You said to stop pointing out their hypocrisy, to let them get away with it. That’s all you suggested.
LARPing valuable insight is the least amount of action that people can put in while feeling they contributed something. “Oooh, look at them. Now someone else do something about it!”
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Yes we all know. Umfortunately the hypocrisy is completely invisible to them, so posts like this are a circlejerk at best.
It’s good to remind others not in the loop why the propaganda is nuts.
But yeah you’re not convincing MAGA losers of this. How an event makes them feel is more important than the facts and consistency it represents.
Uuuhmmmfortunately
Trump’s rhetoric was similar to that of Los Angeles-based federal prosecutor Bill Essayli, who tweeted over the weekend that, “If you approach law enforcement with a gun, there is a high likelihood they will be legally justified in shooting you.”
Have they seen the multiple angles of footage of this?
Man had a phone in one hand and the person he was helping up in the other.
Unless he had a third hand somewhere, I struggle to see where the fucking gun was.
They really be taking the old GOP doctrine to psychopathic levels just to own the Libs.
They’ll put whatever spin they can on this to justify the actions of their gestapo.
Jon Stewart says it best:
“They’re lying. We saw it. And that’s how brazen they lie when they know we’ve seen the truth. That’s how they lie when they know we know. Imagine how they lie when there’s no evidence to contradict them. And maybe that more than anything was why Alex Pretti reall was a threat. Because he was brandishing a weapon, a handheld aluminum, 1080p, 60 FPS, weapon of mass illumination. Because there is nothing more dangerous to a regime predicated on lies than witnesses who capture the truth.”
Yes, they have seen the videos. They are lying. They are liars.
*gasp!*
Yeah, was probably worth noting the question was rhetorical.
Gaslight, Obstruct, Project. That’s the doctrine after all.
Besides which, law enforcement is not legally justified in shooting you damn near no matter what you do. A cop is not a court of law. A cop is not a jury and judge. A cop is not an executioner. Their legal jurisdiction extends to getting you in front of a courtroom and nothing else.
local nazi supporter on my Facebook basically says it’s his fault for being stupid because he should have announced that he had a gun when he began interacting with them
I’m sure that that would go over well
edit: anybody willing to approach ICE/CBP and loudly declare that they have a gun on them?
Didn’t work for Philando Castile, and that was just a road-side interaction with a “standard” cop. Still murdered.
When will people realize that republicans do not support the first (edit: SECOND, lmao, but yeah first too) amendment? They support use of force to further their agenda. That’s it. Making gun ownership out to be a right wing thing is such a gigantic fuckup.
once fascists get full power, they will attempt to ban it totally throughout the country. mmuch like with russia, last thing putin wants is the populace with firearms.
Conservatism only holds one position, there should be in-groups that are protected but not bound by law, and out-groups that are not protected but bound by law.
Right now any idiot can buy a gun, that might not be true for long though
Could never tell if she’s twacked out on a lot of adderall or some meth. Probably splitting hairs.
Well, they are wealthy, so probably adderall. But its basically the same thing
What’s wild about the difference is these two are obviously not using their guns in a responsible manner (posing while holding their weapons poorly) but Mr. Pretti was (concealed and holstered because there was no apparent imminent threat to him).
But as usual, some people think Guns Used By Friends Are Good, Guns Used By Enemies Are Bad.
Loved Jon Stewart this week
The GOP = scared white snowflakes
She’s holding her gun in such a weird way
They both are. It’s clear they have never fired a weapon before. They might shoot at someone, but they’re not hitting anything unless by accident. Which is the likely outcome for these chuckleheads.
I don’t know what the recoil is for whatever he’s holding but if it’s anything like an AK he’s losing a nipple.
Looks like an AR-15. I used to enjoy going to the range and doing safe, responsible shooting. I’m no gun expert, but I’ve gotten to shoot different guns that other people own and I have more experience with the AR-15 than any other gun. I never shot an AK-47 so I can’t compare. The AR has a good bit of a kick, but it’s nothing like a hunting rifle or a shotgun. If he pulled the trigger the way he’s holding it now he’d have absolutely zero chance of controlling it, you do want that thing planted into your shoulder. It’s also possible it’s the .22 caliber version of the AR, if that’s the case then he’d be fine, those are like shooting a BB gun, although from what little I can see of the end of the barrel it looks too big to be a .22
She’d smack herself right in the face if she pulled the trigger on her handgun. Couple of clowns right there.
