Listen to the man. He doesn’t give a shit about regular Windows users. You’re getting it because his entrenched corporate licensors will get it. And they get it because they get a button to turn it off. That and they don’t have many options because of the sweet fucking deals they’re getting when they bundle the MS software ecosystem, locking out competitors. Embrace. Extend.
IMO it’s been Adobe really running the Mac vs Windows duopoly for over a decade at this point. If they made their software compatible with Linux people would have virtually no reason to continue using Windows.
Honestly until recently affinity was a huge threat to Adobe. We almost had a way out.
Did something happen with Affinity that knocked it out of the running?
Got bought by Canva last year and this year they switched to a freemium model. People fear that cramming AI more prominently, ads and predatory subscription models will follow.
Microsoft Office is also strong. It is still the standard in most contexts and they are just very good.
And while the libre alternatives are all excellent there is tiny points of friction, especially when collaborating with MS Office users and they make non MS Office users not want to switch.
No. All you have to do is say “we don’t accept files from product X. Please submit in one of the following formats/from the following products.”
I’m serious. This works. It’s worked for me for DECADES. If you want to do business with me, you’re doing it on my terms.
Unless you are an employee, student, petitioner or in one of a hundred other situations where you have to follow rules set by someone else.
I went through college without using Microsoft office. I was fine. As an employee, if they are paying for the systems and software I’ll use the company supplied stuff.
Most MS office application use can work through browser under linux now…
For my purposes, the only time I’ve had to dust off Windows native Office has been dealing with some of the more “weird” features of presentations that people ask me to work on that aren’t handled in the browser version, and my general feedback is that those features are a bad idea in general and should be avoided.
I wager there’s also some Excel things that might not work in the Web version, but I don’t go that hard with Excel anyway.
Yeah I agree there are weird inconsistencies between formulas in Excel, Libre office and Google Sheets. In Excel Concat and concatenate are the same while in google sheets Concat only works for two strings and concatenante is more than two. In Excel other sheet cells are references like Sheet2!A1 but in Libre Office it’s Sheet2.A1 like why??
My understanding of the excel situation is management had one obnoxious engineer who said “why can’t it do X? Let’s make it do X!” And rather than plan out or coordinate the development of that function, they said “fuck Gavin is annoying. Let him run with this to shut him up.”
Years later, Gavin is no longer on the excel team, no one understands how his code works. No one is going to touch it. So it’s now a weird little thing that tethers people to excel. Not some fancy new thing. No, just a function Gavin put in 12 years ago nobody wants to deal with, because Gavin’s code is as obnoxious as Gavin himself.
This is my theory.
In the corpo world, office integration with OneDrive and Teams is pretty nice too.
Unless half of your coworkers are on Mac then it’s terrible and fails to sync all the time so they go behind your back and start using Google docs with their Gmail.
200%
Adobe is definitely like 60% the reason I’m still sticking to Windows… :/
And yet the other 90% of people will still be stuck with it.
All I need is some hardware creators to make dual OS apps for Linux and we will be golden
They already do. They are called PWAs.
Fuckssake I need Windows to stay usable for my work…
I’ll stay with Win10 for another 3 years and see what the landscape looks like then 👀
Please Adobe and Hoyoverse, implement Linux support pronto.
I have switched last year and Hoyoverse works without problems (using Steam).
Wait, Genshin specifically? I heard some other Hoyo games might work. I found a Linux launcher on Github, but even they said it carried a ban risk.
Aside from Quicken: Nursing Home Edition, I don’t see much keep people on windows anymore. Only one user of mine still uses windows and it’s because quicken (and he thinks only poor people use free software)
Adobe won’t ever allow Linux, I’m sure they have some contract.woth Microsoft about this (wouldn’t be the first time I’ve seen that)
Also, obligatory FUCK EVERYTHING ABOUT ADOBE here. We just now setup pihole to improve office security slightly and FFS, Adobe is making it impossible with their 10.000 domains they’re using. I’ve added countless exceptions already and still can’t get Adobe services to run remotely reliable
Yeah, I hate Adobe’s business practices, but for my needs their software is sadly still quite ahead of the FLOSS alternatives.
Windows 11 not running on my old computer made me hold out just long enough until Recall hit and it made me decide to not use it in my new one. I’ve been using Arch (CachyOS technically) for about a year now.
Every single time I open my windows PC (which has now been force fed windows 11) they have disabled my Internet connection until I install yet another update. Which takes at least 15 min with a reboot. It’s maddening. Reading all the lemmy Linux posts is about to convince me.
I love how these fuckers talk about the ability to “work anywhere” as if it were some kind of freedom. To me, freedom is shutting my work computer down at 4pm, leaving it on my desk at work, and going home - whether it is for the night, the weekend, or my vacation. I work at work and nowhere else; the only thing freer than that is not working at all.
This is what being in a union has allowed me to do. It’s wonderful.
Agentic, I fucking hate this word.
It’s only meaning is to management, and is some kind of horseshit way of saying “less employees to pay”
Words for it already exist. Its whole purpose is marketing and AI fart huffing.
So, you’re just wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_agent
An “agent” is specific a type of software that long predates LLMs and this go-round of AI hype.
One example of an agent is a computer program that reads log data of another program and forwards the log data to a log management server. Another example of an agent is an LLM chatbot that can perform actions on its own.
Not all agents are chatbots, and not all chatbots are agents.
I never said agent is a new word, but thanks for telling me I’m wrong.
Assistive, aid, helpful are all words that could be used in place of the word agentic. It feels inauthentic and fluffy because it is.
I’ve never heard of agentic before because it is novel word marketing bullshit. Like IoT before it and many others, words existed to explain the technology in plain language but industry gargon takes hold and isn’t interrogated for being cold, non-inclusive and confusing.
I’ve never heard of agentic before
Because it was an idea floating around before but it never worked out and they never spoke about it afterwards.
The wikipedia article that I already linked is another example that proves that you are wrong.
The article has existed since January 14 2004: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Software_agent&oldid=2149104 here is the very first version of the wikipedia article on Software agents, which does not even mention AI and lists software like a mail transfer agent or software daemons.
The fact that you’ve never heard of it before does not make it a novel word. Unless you define “novel” as a technical term that has been in use since the early 1970s… 🙄
https://www.research.ed.ac.uk/en/publications/process-a-mathematical-model-of-computing-agents/
^ published 1975.
Process: A mathematical model of computing agents
- Find in page ‘agentic’
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Bruh slow down on the “ahktually” and read what you’re putting out there lmao
Lol. The word “agentic” has been used since 1864. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=agentic&year_start=1800&year_end=2025
You’re wrong.
Technological speak isn’t colloquial every day language. Other industries simply aren’t taken to forcing industry terms into the general populace.
Use of the word agentic in everyday language is novel and marketing intentful.
Just because I say with peers that a leaf is cordate, sinistrose, and estipulate with a hirsute abaxial surface doesn’t mean anyone in science journalism will use those terms. They use colloquial language like the leaf is heart-shaped, spirally arranged, without a stem, and with small hairs on the underside because these terms make broad sense to the public.
It’s novel but not wrong. Plenty of technical terms have inserted themselves into our language over time. I can think of bandwidth and logistics at the top of my head. Catalyst feels very technical as well. Logistics started as military jargon and is brought over from French.
Just thought of Segway as well. Not sure if it started as technical jargon but it’s definitely some weird bastardization.
So, let me make sure I understand your position, you’re mad that people are correctly using a technical term that has existed for over 50 years and think they should use a different word because you personally did not know that word before? Okie dokie. 🤷
Would you rather we just call every type of software an “app”?
“So you’re just wrong” says the guy who doesn’t understand that “agent” and “agentic” are different words. One is a real word you can find in a dictionary with a long history of use. The other one is a neologism obviously referencing and created out of the other word, using a tortured conjugation process that only a marketer could love. We’re talking about the latter word while you’re busy defending the former word. They’re not the same word.
Welp, you tried! https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=agentic&year_start=1800&year_end=2025 the word “agentic” has been in use since 1864. Just wrong.
The OP’s thread you are entering into is talking about the word agenetic.
See even autocorrect from the very companies shovelling it down our throats can’t get it right because it is a fake novel marketing word.
Yes, that is correct. Glad we are on the same page
Agentic, I fucking hate this word.
It joins ‘the ask’ and ‘the spend’ and ‘action this’ as words people use to sound trendy and smart. It’s the surest sign someone went from Used Cars to I.T sales in their career, and should be heard with similar mistrust.
If your peers use these - heck, if they use ‘emails’, pluralizing the mass noun - just laugh at them like you got their absurdist attempt to lampoon one of these people so they can learn how ridiculous they sound. Help your friends.
You really, unironically, say “I received 10 email today” and think it’s other people who sound stupid?
Lol imagine judging others’ competency from insignificant grammatical nitpicks that you’re not even correct about… ironic!
The person I am replying to has a consistent history of snobbish prescriptivism and disrespect for anyone who doesn’t follow what they think is the correct version of the rules of life.
I’ve seen this attitude before, especially with how things are pronounced, like saying “Ess Cue Ell” instead of “Sequel” means that you don’t really know SQL. Or saying “Enn Jinx” instead of “Engine X” means you don’t have real experience with Nginx. It’s just nonsense.
Agreed.
I do my part by pronouncing each acronym differently than my immediate peers.
Agreed.
I do my part by pronouncing each acronym differently than my immediate peers.
Since you’re ignoring me, here’s some bait: what’s your specific citation for your prescriptivist rule that “email” is a singular and plural noun by divine definition?
It’s like regular mail, but with an e in front, you know?
Used differently, thought.
“I received multiple e-mailpieces from the company…”
“In response to your e-letter dated Nov. 14th…”
Exactly this. Used to work in for profit corporate offices and this was my experience for nearly two decades. The imbeciles trying to sound important used trendy corpo speak and got nothing else done timely or well.
Switching to Linux was so much less effort than I expected, and so much easier than trying to unfuck a new Windows install (which essentially requires pirating an enterprise version to have a chance), and then still have all of your data stolen despite best efforts. So, yeah, thanks Windows 11.
If you live in the GUI you really won’t notice much friction. If you work in power shell or command prompt regularly it’s going to be a lot of muscle memory to break but from the GUI? Anything outside of GNOME will feel like home for you.
Right, but if you’re someone who is comfortable with powershell, then you’re not going to be intimidated by the CLI like many Windows people are.
Agreed, more differences there, but that’s always been an area I thought was so much better to work with on Linux every time I installed. I’m definitely not someone who’s lived in the command prompt though!
Ive been teetering on the edge of a fulI move to linux for some time but never could find the energy. I logged onto my windows PC last night, and something about the notification ping, the busted start menu and hearing the fans go wild even though I was doing nothing really pissed me off.
Thought fuck it. Booted up balena etcher, and 30 mins late I was in dual boot Ubuntu. Spent the night getting used to rider and getting the game I’m working on running and I’m NEVER going back to windows.
I tried linux mint a while back and had no end of issues but with Ubuntu it was seamless and painless. I am converted.
Glad it’s working! You might get some people saying “Don’t use Ubuntu because blah” but keep in mind any complaint about that is so much less of an issue than Windows versus Linux.
I noticed quickly after telling a guy in work than linux folks have… opinions
Glad to hear it! You might try installing KDE on Ubuntu as well, I’m pretty happy with Kubuntu. I tried Mint as well and just didn’t like Cinnamon or their update process all that much.
(which essentially requires pirating an enterprise version to have a chance)
So true! I owe some of my Linux journey to the discomfort from the downgrade from Windows Enterprise at work to the (kind of shit) Windows Home, at home.
I was given a macbook at programming work and honestly, the battery life sold me on it.
And with that Steam Cube thing, I can’t imagine anything Microsoft in my house.
Steam Cube thing
I saw someone call it the Valve GabeCube and I can’t unsee it now, lol
Dbrand got it right with the companion cube skin. Valve totally missed that opportunity.
GabeCube is what I’m calling it forever, now. That’s great.
I don’t think I’ll get one (I have 2 Decks, a dock, and a gaming ex-Windows now CachyOS PC) but I’m excited for the controller. Couch play sucks without touchpads on so many games. Steam Input even makes games with massive numbers of keybinds work great; with nested radial menus, you can have hundreds of commands on 'em.
Some of the arm based windows laptops, and even the newer x86 windows laptops, get pretty good battery life these days too. In my personal life, I have both an arm based MacBook and windows laptop. Both get similar battery life. I do wish there was an easy way to get Linux running on the windows laptop though.
At work it’s usually all the corporate… bloat/security stuff that kills windows. I recently made the work switch to a MacBook and the difference is night and day.
Blue checkmarks fund Nazis. It’s these fuckheads pushing Ai slop onto us.
Almost all actual users hate this. Unfortunately, it is corporate customers that buy the majority of Windows licenses, and those C-levels gobble up that shit like there was no tomorrow…
It’s beyond “nobody asked for this.” People are actively saying “this is bad, I want not this.”
it’s like Nigerian prince scam email – they don’t want you as a customer if you’re smart enough to recognize you’re the resource being extracted.
The “Not me. Take curse of Ra” would fit here well.
