• Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
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    It’s fucked up that he says it like it’s some sort of flex, and his cultists eat it up.

    I know that there has been a demonization of higher learning for a very long time in Conservative america. But I’m floored by how pervasive it’s become that a vast majority have been completely gaslit by it.

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    Yeah, because even a moderately intelligent person recognizes him for the criminal fraud that he is. We’ve been saying it from the beginning:

    He’s a stupid person’s idea of a smart person.

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    The stupider you are, the more attractive his platform becomes. Smart people tend not to vote against their interests, but stupid people do it, do it proudly, and keep doing it even after it bites them in the ass.

    How many times have we seen where someone’s spouse has been deported or their benefits have been cut and they STILL support Trump.

    Trump’s #1 skill is telling people in the room what they want to hear. He’s just pretty bad about following up. His followers tend not to hold him to the fire. For example, if he promises thing X and doesn’t do it, later he was “trolling” or “that was a joke to rile up the Democrats”. Of course, when he does get a win they trumpet that from the rooftops.

    He’s probably the first one with the combination of charisma and lack of ethics that makes him exploit his base.

    It continually amazes me that he’s been so successful at capturing low-income voters. When you look at Trump he was born with a silver spoon. The man lives in a literal gilded house! Yet, he manages to stay “relatable” to his base. If you’re really wildly rich, I can see why you’d want to vote for Trump because he’s done a lot of great things for the extremely wealthy. However, for the 99% of us that are not wealthy, I think he’s made times pretty hard.

    I wish I could say people are learning as we go along, but it seems like the voters are getting spanked and coming back asking for more.

    So, I agree. Smart people mostly don’t like him.

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      Considering he is actively trying to reverse course on every bit of socioeconomic progress we have made, its more surprising that so many people agree with him than him actually saying it

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      Yeah, the man that just learned the word “groceries” in his 70’s is relatable lmao. I don’t get it either dude.

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    Logical run through:

    *His statement: If you’re smart, you don’t like me.

    *Contrapositive: If you like me, you are not smart.

    Got it.

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    As… ridiculously fucking stupid as this sounds, it is what his base wants to hear.

    They don’t see “smart people” and think “people with an above average IQ” (and they sure as fuck don’t understand what “average” means). They see “intellectuals” and “college students” and “pink haired people”. Or, simply put, “people who think I am wrong”. Which is exactly what they want to hate.

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      They desperate for the world to be simple so that their simple, “elegant” solution and “clean, traditional living” or whatever the hell else they got going on is justified. But also they’ll ignore any times that indigineous are right about things like caring for the environment in simple, clean ways.

      Put it short, they just want to be validated without putting any work in. Saw too many movies they thought were documentaries.

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        They desperate for the world to be simple so that their simple, “elegant” solution…

        Tbh, that’s most people, most of the time.

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          Sure, but that doesn’t excuse anything. And if a solution looks to good to be true then you gotta back it up with studies and trials and evidence not just feelings and decades of complete failure. UBI is an elegant and simple solution and tests for it have gone well. Getting rid of regulations and taxes and expecting trickle down economics and the free market to make everything wonderful is the realm of the stupid and insane.

          So even if it is “most people” there’re still two groups within it.

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            I’m not disagreeing! A long time ago there was a very popular tv commercial with a big, red “easy” button. It was popular because most of us wish for it, while understanding it’s the work behind the scene, often for years, decades, that makes the magic. Imagine if all we leftist regular people had the will and fortitude to get on board with the ones doing the heavy lifting what we can accomplish! It doesn’t mean we’ll even live to see results, just that we can envision a better future for everyone, if we just keep working for it…

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          “Desperate” though? Most people aren’t out there living in a false reality in order to accomplish it.

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            Our problem is, despite shocking “alternate realities” occasionally bursting through our own carefully cultivated protective bubbles, we still refuse to acknowledge that people are, in fact, doing just that, and it doesn’t matter if they’re the majority. They’re the loudest and most persistent, and that’s what got us where we are. HRC was so confident the Don couldn’t win, and I expressed alarm and said he was going to win and people poo-poohed and hand waved my concerns aside. And here we are and people are still too busy looking back, being mad an unwinnable candidate lost, while Charlie Kirk is dead, the left and LGBTQ are being banned <-- should’ve been “blamed”, but banned is the effect --and Nick "I fucked your movement baby”* Fuentes ideals are still winning.

            Edited again to correct Fuentes quote and add relevant video clip

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkTvuxJgJg

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      This is one of the best summations of stupidity I’ve seen lol. It hits so many of the hot points

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    The whole Trump Derangement Syndrome nonsense is so messed up.

    It should be the opposite meaning. You have TDS if you cannot process the notion that Trump is bad or wrong

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    For once, he is right. Anyone moderately intelligent wouldn’t like such a weak con man. He only appeals to weak men.

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    The third feature of Fascism.

    Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action’s sake. Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation. Therefore culture is suspect insofar as it is identified with critical attitudes. Distrust of the intellectual world has always been a symptom of Ur-Fascism, from Goering’s alleged statement (“When I hear talk of culture I reach for my gun”) to the frequent use of such expressions as “degenerate intellectuals,” “eggheads,” “effete snobs,” “universities are a nest of reds.” The official Fascist intellectuals were mainly engaged in attacking modern culture and the liberal intelligentsia for having betrayed traditional values.

    Ur-Fascism by Umberto Eco

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      I will always upvote Ur-Fascism. Anyone who hasn’t read it needs to take 5 mins or so and do it. It’s very short.

      Unfortunately, I believe we are past the “Ur-” phase.

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      I do have to wonder what a society looks like when every decision is always pulling the trolley lever

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    Pol Pot would supposedly round up and execute people wearing glasses because they were seen as “intellectuals”.

    You are not as far from this as you want to be.

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    I’m gonna give him credit here.

    It’s the first truthful AND self-aware thing he’s said his entire term.

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      I don’t think it is self aware. I don’t think he realizes what the implications are. His narcissism protects his ego from making connections like that.

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      Maybe he meant it differently? I cannot imagine the Trump self awareness thing. Maybe he lost more of his filter than before due to age?

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        Of course he did. Hes positioning the “intellectuals” as being wrong thinkers. But more than that, its about positioning himself as one of the simple folk, who detest the elite consensus that regularly puts down anyone who doesnt agree with them or even just asks questions. You know, the types who say “Its not my job to educate you!”? Basically, they created this idea that they better than others because they “get it” and others dont. And any time they get asked to explain it, “Its not my job to educate you”.

        Basically, hes talking about all the dickheads on reddit who only want to put people down instead of trying to reach them with words and facts. And his base eat that shit up. Honestly, the worst thing social media users started doing was stop explaining themselves with words, facts and sources. The “Im just right, and youre just wrong” paved the way for Trump to use being intelligent as an insult.

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          You just convinced me that we’re screwed… 😞

          If you want to ruin your day more read up on the nazis and fascists and their anti intellectualism.

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            I dont know about that. There is also the fact that the online world is not the real world. So we’ve got that going for us.

            The only issue, for not at least, is that the online world and the real world kind of colluded to get Trump elected. Online, you had all the culture war shit that Trump et all used to garner support. While in the real world, the actual corruption of political figures convinced millions to not bother going to vote.

            The solution seems to be simple one. Stop voting for party, start voting for people. This is the only way that the US voter can take back the country. IMO, anyway. An important fact is that in 2016, conservatives were on record saying they would vote for Bernie. Not the MAGA lot, obviously. But the normal conservatives who arent balls deep in crazy. In 2016, America as a whole was screaming out for change. Had the DNC not fucked over Bernie, we likely would never have seen what a Trump world looks like. AND, everyone would have a national health service by now. Even then Trump positioned himself as a Bernie type figure. Someone who was going to “drain the swamp”. Thats why he won. Its just a shame that he was a liar, and a member of the very swamp he said he was going to drain.