• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    Deeply unserious managers of empire continue to self-cannibalize their own productivity in an effort to go even more all-in on financial capital, all while the global south is doing its best to pivot towards more favorable relations with countries like China. When the US Empire runs out of countries to exploit, and financial capital ceases to be profitable, it will have no developed industrial base nor a strong scientifically trained worker base to pull itself back up. The US is cooked, this is just speedrunning the demise of the empire in a faster and harder fashion.

    The good news is that the worse this gets, the more favorable the conditions for organizing become, and the more vulnerable to revolution the state becomes. We can legitimately take advantage of this, and gain mastery over capital, rather than the inverse. We can re-industrialize, become socialist, and begin the long and difficult but necessary path towards legitimate progress. It won’t be easy, but it will be doable.

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      It absolutely won’t be.

      But it might be moving in the right direction.

      Regardless, will take decades/generations to fully recover from this, if ever.

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        No, you’ll never recover. Your previous status was the result of a very specific set of historical circumstances (specifically the fact that you were the only major power left standing after World War 2) that aren’t going to repeat. If you fall, the best you can hope for in terms of recovery is to equal the other developed countries of the world. You’ll never exceed them again.

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          Unfortunately Americans cannot stand being told they don’t live in the greatest country on earth. It’s a wonder that fascism took this long to win in the US, because it’s fundamentally hyper-compatible with American Exceptionalism which every American besides a tiny fraction of far-leftists believe to be inherently and unshakably true.

          Where do you go from there when most of your population wouldn’t accept a trade alliance that doesn’t massively favor the US? Because even if Trump is impeached tomorrow that’s what Fox News will be running all day every day to successfully torpedo anyone attempting to rebuild the country.

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          I believe the same. They will recover eventually, but they will never be a superpower again.

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          Which is fine. Really would love to not have a fall happen, but ultimately if the rest of the world can thrive and move forward even with our current idiocracy taking hold, I can live with that. All I hope for is that this will pass and we can rise up from it.

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        Especially given that even in the best case scenario the period of recovery will be 8 years maximum. No matter who will be the next president, the one after will be another angry conservative, and I don’t believe there will be a lot of progress after.

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    That’s only the half of it. Look at the rest of the policies, look how they want to cut Medicare and food stamps and other safety net programs.

    Make no mistake, this administration wants to see people die.

    This is the end game the technocrats have been working towards, this is how they’re enacting their eugenics. They want poor people, disabled people, disadvantaged people, to die. They believe they are culling the weak members of the herd for the sake of the betterment of “their” kind (rich, white, “healthy”, etc).

    These policies aren’t stupid or ineffective, they are cruel and insidious by design

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      The whole conspiracy theory of the new world order feels more real every year. Make everyone suffer so they have no choice but to submit to the oligarchs.

      People are already having trouble finding jobs. Cutting food stamps and Medicaid feels like pieces of making people suffer in a bigger plan.

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        The suffering is just a side effect. Massive death is the goal, they just don’t want to have to get their hands dirty.

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      Make no mistake, this administration wants to see people die.

      They want to see people suffer before they die.

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    Or another way to look at it- cutting nearly 75% of scientists. Can’t have climate change if there’s no one working! Watch them find some money to give to ExxonMobile to ‘study’ the impacts of fossil fuels. Wonder what that report will say! /s

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      No need for the /s I fully expect that is what will happen. Also a great firewall, so yanks can’t access unapproved information from over seas

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    Never played a conquest game where you stop researchers from giving your empire a tech advantage over others.

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      It’s a popular strategy for Fascists.

      the Nazis and the OG Fascists did it, and so did the communist Chinese.

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        China currently churns out more college graduates than any other country, and the rate is increasing.

        And they had a hell of a way to go given that it was less than 1% when they took over.

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          China currently is not communist either.

          They stopped killing academics at around the same time they stopped being communist.

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    A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, are incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

    They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

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        As an outsider, I honestly and sincerely invite anyone to explain how any of what’s going on in the US today isn’t as American as apple pie and school shootings?

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        America is still slightly ahead of Russia there, due to the legacy of the USSR. Not that Russia’s billionaires aren’t doing their best to privatize education and keep it out of reach of the peasantry since the fall of communism.

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          the oligarchs of russia sends thier children to elite or standard western colleges, russian is a shithole even for them for education.

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            Yeah, and a lot of the 56% college grad rate is boomers who were educated before the fall and are now dying off. We will see it drop precipitously in the next 20 years or so, and the quality of the education of the newly graduated decline.

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        But so deliberately? In what world does a half intelligent person believe this to be a good long term strategy?

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          Most of the US believes in this, or is just unaware. That’s how its been for most of history around the world.

          …The remarkable issue here is the elites/rules we handed the reigns now drink their own kool-aid. The very top of most authoritarian regimes are at least cognisant of some hypocrisy, even if ideology eats them some.

          The other is that people are more ‘connected’ than ever, but to disinformation streams. I feel like a lot of the world (especially the US fancies) themselves as super smart on shit they know nothing about because of something they saw on Facebook or YouTube.

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            No, most of the US does not believe in this. This admin got less than half of the people who even voted in the election. Which is only like half the voting population anyway. You’re looking at less than a quarter who chose this, and many of those didn’t even understand what they were voting for.

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      Yes, many times. Historically, it seems like the very strong empires first defeated themselves and once they were sufficiently weakened for outside forces to be able to threaten them … they still kept being self sabotaged by their own elite who prioritized maneuvering against each other for temporary power/wealth grabs over working together to face the outside threats.

      The late Roman empire has a bunch of good examples: blatant corruption, over taxation of the poor, many assassinations, sabotaging their peers that were trying to improve the situation, constant civil war, the battle that destroyed the military backbone of the western Roman empire was fought between romans, … And all that while the empire was being torn apart by outside invasions.

      Or a more recent example: the polish Lithuanian commonwealth had a paralyzed government thanks to corrupt elites with veto powers in their parliament of nobles (sejm) and only once the nation was mostly destroyed and the nation on the cusp of final destruction, did the sejm introduce some sensible new laws, but it was too late.

      With smaller regional powers you can have cases like “they were in a golden age and had never been as powerful, but then the mongols appeared”, but with hegemon empires the failure of their inner workings is always going to be instrumental in their own demise.

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    Wait, the bottom ones are PreK-12 students.

    How are they planning to reduce the number of children?

    Is this why they hired RFK?

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      a dumb population is easier to control than an educated one. They don’t plan on reducing the number of children, no they need more to produce for the wealthy. What they need are dumb kids that will grow into dumb adults. uneducated adults are more likely to have A LOT of kids. So you strip education, you strip healthcare, you make abortions illegal across the board, thus you force the population to keep pumping out new workers. many will die, the strong idiots will survive.

      They’re turning the country into cattle.

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      Nah see we gonna use AI to train the kids instead of teachers. Also gotta make sure the AI uses the correct training data, like how the world is 6000 years old and the gays are a sin.

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    As non-american I’m becoming increasingly convinced republicans are actually lead by traitors wanting to destroy the US.

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        Yeah pretty much, Trump had ties to the Russian mob. Beyond that, they probably poured money into the MAGA movement for God knows how many senators. Putin won. Well played really.

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          putin have pouring into the gop for a long time, and almost all the right wing governments elsewhere, why do you think the sudden rise of right wing govt all at once, plus they also fund alt-right groups like racial supremcy groups. isreal is similar, just by the USA (which is the most right wing western country even before trump)

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      I dont think that’s it.

      It’s an overwhelming case of “got mine”.

      Like sanders said, being a GOP member just means staying in line.

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      So do the Democrats…

      I hope they fix their system, but I have no idea how they could.

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      How is the price of a cryptocoin even relevant to this post?

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        It’s a graph of the global status of the US, you can put in any value of your choice

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    Hey Europe and Canada, anyone still looking for a scientist that just wants to do lab work? I prefer chemistry, but am happy with micro too. Just let me interpret data, please. I’m stuck somewhere where titrations are the most complex process.

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      If you have an Irish grandparent you can get a passport. Lots of work here and Americans are welcome.

      Otherwise work visas that turn into residency aren’t difficult to come by with sponsorship and it’s not the kind of sponsorship that makes you a slave.

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        How about a great grandparent. My grandma was born in NYC but great grandad came from Ireland into Ellis island.

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          Mmmm. I’m not sure tbh but I don’t think so. If your grandmother had an Irish passport though that might work. Worth checking if you’re considering it.

          My sister lives in the UK a long time now and all her kids have an Irish passport. It’s actually a great passport to have for travel. EU is obviously wide open but most places accept it without much (or zero) effort.

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      The pharma industry is currently booming in Denmark (Novo and others are expanding like crazy), so perhaps you could try and look into that