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gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 2 days ago

Norwegian tourist claims he was 'strip searched' before being denied entry to US over JD Vance meme on phone

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Norwegian tourist claims he was 'strip searched' before being denied entry to US over JD Vance meme on phone

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    The logic of vance meme to strip search is quite a convoluted mess.

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      You never know where they are hiding those dank memes.

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    Why the fuck are they allowed access to people’s personal devices, people have a right to privacy

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      Because people allow them to. “I forgot the PIN” is still a valid answer. But I want to know why people are bringing their primary phones at all.

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        Primary phone is just your phone. You bring the one phone ypu have becuse you didn’t belive the US had really become Tajikistan levels of draconian.

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        If you refuse access they immediately refuse entry. Which means you’re immediately deported

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          OK, so in that case, why the fuck are people bringing their normal phones?!

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            Because you shouldn’t need a fuckin burner phone to visit the land of the fuckin free?

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            Because most people don’t expect border security to demand access to their phone?

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            Lots of people don’t know the US has turned fascist I guess

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            Because they are going on a holiday? Like lmao

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    Never travel to the united states

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      It’s quite clear the only way we’ll learn is the hard way. We’ll see how much smug entitlement we can sustain when the world moves on without us.

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      I live on the border. I’ve been many times. The day Trump was elected the second time I swore I would never cross the border again.

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      Or if you do, fill your phone with 1000s of up close photos of assholes. See if they figure it out.

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        I thought that strategy was just for the NSA but I guess it could also work for the TSA.

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        Fill your gallery entirely with nothing but AI upscaled 4k gifs of tubgirl

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          I think goatse is more appropriate.

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            At first I was going to comment that goatse was never a video, and therefore could not be made into an animated gif, but then I remembered img2vid exists. I could see some wild AI slop being pretty hilarious.

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          Is there an app to make this happen easily? Maybe a GrapheneOS feature??

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            Why would grapheneOS have an ai upscale feature? There isn’t even an assistant by default

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          I’m a Pain Olympics fan myself

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        Realistically the next big security push on mobile devices, due to things like this, should be plausible deniability. In the same way that VeraCrypt lets you set up encryption where you can “unlock” encrypted content and it’s a fallback to secure your privacy, phones should allow a backup account or something similar that has select group of apps, photos and messages, perhaps depending on the PIN you use to unlock your phone

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          I thought about doing something similar with my laptop, simply by naming my main account Guest, and using my name as the account they would check at customs.

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          Like 10+ years ago I had a “private photos” app that would open up two completely different photo vaults based on what pin you entered. I didn’t even think it was a big deal at the time because it makes perfect sense to do. I’m amazed that hasn’t become standard practice in the meantime.

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        And enjoy it when they assault you and lock you away for years. You have no rights in their country, don’t risk it.

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          The sad thing is I agree with you, but the sadder thing is I was born here, and still live here. But I’m going to be filling my phone with these anyway when I travel abroad and (presumably) return.

          Not returning is pretty enticing though, if I didn’t have elderly parents to take care of.

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    If you wanted to make America more secure, disband ICE and TSA completely and replace them with nothing.

    Smaller, more secure government.

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      Ahhh, what?

      Btw, CBP is not the same as the TSA. CBP is customs and border control. TSA keeps people from bringing bombs and guns on planes.

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        TSA pretends to keep people from bringing bombs and guns on planes.

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      I get the point of needing some kind of security at the airport, and having a national agency provide said security makes more sense to me than requiring each airport to wing it. provides some consistency. that being said, i have plenty of complaints about the current way it’s implemented.

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      Split the country up in 50 different countries

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        Worked for the Balkans

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        We did just fine without them for centuries.

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          Incorrect; countries have always protected their borders in some capacity.

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            You are being downvoted for pointing out a fact. wtf

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              “we” means people, not countries

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            As did America, before the Homeland Security Act.

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              Except that one time when they let the Europeans in and they slaughtered everyone.

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                  The natives returned the favor with syphilis.

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        You can meaningfully discuss Deez Nuts.

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          Lmao gottem

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        What kind of “discussion” beyond “Don’t Go To Trumpist USA It’s Not Worth It, PS RIP Their Tourist Industry” do you want to meaningfully have?

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      Welp, I guess I can’t go to the US.

      Oh no.

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    Aww are the party that never shuts up about hurt feelings hypocrites, shocker

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    The next Olympics in the US should be interesting. “And none of the other teams or their fans were able to enter the US…”

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      It will be heavily boycotted. It will be MAGA-approved athletes getting their asses kicked by the Russians and the Chinese.

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      If history holds, it will be the last olympics for a decade

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      Olympics and World Cup. I bet you’ll see stories of athletes being denied entry when those events are on.

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    The US Department of Homeland Security has rejected Kitchen’s claim, calling it “unequivocally false.”

    DHS is unequivocally lying through their teeth.

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    So can he sue USA for being unjustly returned?
    It seems that should be an option. Sue USA through the embassy in Norway.
    That way the NHS will have to show probable cause, and if they can’t they have to pay compensation.

    IDK if Norway has, but here in Denmark we do have warnings about traveling to USA now!
    Some months ago this warning mostly regarded LGBT people, but here in June the warning has changed to regard everybody!!
    Simply don’t go to USA unless you have to!

    https://um.dk/rejse-og-ophold/rejse-til-udlandet/rejsevejledninger/usa

    be aware of the risk of terror, shootings and natural disasters.

    Please note that you may be refused entry or be expelled from the United States if…

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      Not only are there warnings: Around a month ago, a fund that has funded some students at top US universities quite literally evacuated several of the students they were funding.

      We’re talking about Norwegian students in the US getting a call telling them to “get your passport, and get on the first possible flight home, don’t worry, we’re paying.” This was just around when people with certain skin colours, political opinions, or sexual preferences started getting snatched off the streets.

      That’s when I realised how absolutely fucked shit has gotten over there. When Norwegian citizens on student visas were literally told to evacuate the country.

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        I also recently read a story about a Dane, who was married to an American woman, and had several children, and had lived and worked in USA for years was expelled.
        IDK why he didn’t have the papers he needed, he should have known better. But people are naive, and he probably thought being married to an American was enough?
        But we actually have the same rule in Denmark now, being married to a Dane is no longer enough to be allowed to stay here. It used to be an automatic permit to stay, but not anymore. So he definitely should have known.

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          If we are thinking of the same guy, he had a green card but forgot to file some obscure form at some point. And was detained at his naturalization hearing, aka when trying to become a citizen. He absolutely had the papers he needed, he had the permanent resident card, and there was never any communication about the missing form.

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      IDK if Norway has, but here in Denmark we do have warnings about traveling to USA now!

      Meanwhile, here in Canada it’s fucking crickets. They briefly had a warning about the protests in LA, but there’s no recommendation or warning about visiting the US. They’re kidnapping people off the streets, imprisoning them, deporting them to other countries, and Trump has repeatedly mentioned annexing our country and yet our government is saying nothing.

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        Take a trip to USA, and have the chance for a free long term bonus trip to Venezuela! 😜

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        There are like 8000 words on the travel advisory, which states: “take normal security precautions” with a green label seal of approval and cautions with several paragraphs and a bullet point list on ticks and insect bite prevention, weather, and washing your hands. What a lovely country!

        Oh, and the risk of peaceful protests turning violent (lol), and risk of terrorism, and a link to an active shooter preparedness guide, 2 fucking sentences about lgbtq being “affected” by laws in some states, and then there’s this Nazi papers please warning:

        It actually says this on the travel advisory.

        Proof of status

        Authorities may request proof of legal status in the U.S. at any time. Be prepared to show evidence of your legal presence in the U.S.

        (Since fucking when?)

        But it’s 2 👍 from the gov travel and tourism department.

        Meanwhile : EXERCISE A HIGB DEGREE OF CAUTION WHEN YOU GO TO …Netherlands?! Wtaf?

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      Nah, you basically have no rights at the border crossings. None of the constitutional amendments apply.

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      No, foreign nationals can’t sue over being denied entry.

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        So you are saying this is lawless territory?
        That does not sound acceptable.
        Obviously it would probably be the NHS that is sued, because that’s the arm of the American administration that did this.
        And since he was expelled, I believe the case should be allowed to run in Norway.

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          Not having grounds to sue doesn’t mean lawless. That said the rules for detention can be just suspicion and that is pretty open ended.

          https://www.cbp.gov/travel/cbp-search-authority

          https://www.cbp.gov/travel/cbp-search-authority/border-search-electronic-devices

          https://www.aclunc.org/our-work/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-us-airports-and-ports-entry

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      Gotta pump up that Palantir database

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    Oh shit, I’m doomed. Good thing I’m already here. Right? That’s a good thing?

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      Narrator: It was not a good thing

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        I will never not read this in Morgan Freeman’s voice.

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    This kind of shit is why I fear to go vacation elsewhere. If they knew about half the things I’ve said (or what I done to get perma-ed off reddit), they’ll be meeting me at the airport…

    Freedom of speech, amirite???

    🖕🤬🖕

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    Why? Incase he was smuggling more memes into the country stuffed up his ass?

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        Behind the Bastards re-aired their series on Border Control recently.

        One of the stories is border control agents trading a woman for basketball tickets.

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      I mean, isn’t that where all memes come from?

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        Some memes come from Venus, some come from Mars

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          Your arse?

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