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He wants to kill everyone he can before he dies.
He will sacrifice people foolish enough to break the law in his name to eradicate Real Americans.
He doesn’t care. The majority of the boomer generation feels the same way.
The world will improve significantly when the wealth hoarding boomers just finish dying off.
Protect yourself in the meantime. Stay armed. Stay alert.
My feeling is he wants:
- A clear, memorable legacy
- The “fun” and power of war, with literal life and death at his hands
- A war to go past his 4 years so he can justify staying in, probably without an election.
Whatever he wants it’s bad
Also hard to dismiss that he probably likes killing things.
I’ve no doubt he’s a psychopath
If he manages to live another 3 years I suspect there will be no election. He’ll just declare himself king and the Supreme Court will follow suit.
The average boomer has $1.3 million. That is not hoarding. Sure they are selfish and disconnected from the modern reality. But that is not where the stolen wealth is hiding.
Trump was elected by a last minute surge of young, male, anti “woke” sexists.
I only bring this up to highlight the absurdity of claiming that Trump somehow represents wealth hoarding boomers. Hardly.
There are plenty of billionaires in red states but the largest percentage of “wealth hoarding boomers” are in the far wealthier blue states. They are not Trump voters. These are all easy facts to confirm.
Let’s stop the age divisiveness crap. The are plenty resisters who are over 60 and young men preferred the felon. Also, young men are the main fascist recruits today. Want proof? Just look at the voting statistics.
The “Me” generation for sure.
The world will improve significantly when the wealth hoarding boomers just finish dying off.
Sweet summer child, I’m afraid you have another thing coming.
Judas Priest? Cool
Priest indeed!
Living after midnight !
Every young generation feels like that. Every single one before yours felt the same. :)
Its actually not about generations being different, we are the same. You may be 20, I may be 50, we still want the same things.
Doubtful. The boomers are uniquely self serving as a group and have a sort of cruelty brain rot bug that may or may not be lead poisoning.
Many are obsessed with entrenching themselves within institutions, creating a poor work life balance (while blaming the rest of us for not sacrificing as much) leading to fragile interpersonal relationships that are centered around ‘keeping up with the Joneses’ rather than creating a meaningful sense of community.
Most younger generations blame boomers for having a good life and then promptly shutting the door in their children’s faces.
We have survived 500,000 years as a species because past generations cared about the world they left behind for their descendants. Boomers, instead, are collectively focussed on enriching themselves by putting our future at risk as collateral.
As a generation, they will not be remembered well. Many of us wish they would simply step aside so we can fix the mess they’ve propogated.
Tl;dr: There is more to this than the usual young vs old dynamic.
Have you read history? When you say that 500.000 years passed and you feel those generations cared about the world, but boomers just dont, it sounds like you havent.
You make it sound like everything was just amazing and peaceful and selfless and then boomers just destroyed all of that… :) Read about history and how people treated eachother. America was created in 1776, founded on genocide of the native people. Everyone cared about eachother back then, looking out for eachother?
You can read about hundreds of these historic events around the world. Humanity has a history of taking things from eachother and being cruel. The way your generation looks at boomers as the problem is a bit strange. Its like you just woke up, and you look 20 years back and think you have identified boomers as the problem and now humanity is going to die because of them. Its a bit funny and you would see that yourself if you had my perspective.
I’m aware. In ancient hunter gatherer societies elders often accepted death gracefully once their care needs became a burden on the tribe. They knew that their final purpose was to look out for the greater good.
Things changed with the advent of civilization and especially modern medicine. Modern society has minimal if any comfort with death. If anything it fights it to the point of embracing the unnatural.
Boomers have been a burden for some time now. That doesn’t mean they have to disappear nor are they the only generation in human history that has had a negative impact. But it’s notable to the point that an asterisk will be put next to their era. They inherited, in many ways, a world of plenty (relative peace and abundance) and have left us with a world of scarcity (whether artificial or real).
That does not mean there aren’t absolutely incredible people that are a part of this generation. But collectively, they have either actively or passively allowed institutions to be steered towards complicity with mass suffering and that will not be soon forgotten.
I think its capitalism that is pulling societies from plenty to scarcity, because that is what the system is designed to do. We didnt have ultra capitalism in the west until the last decade or so. You can blame boomers for becoming rich in that system, or you can realize that your generation would not make a difference.
Now we are in the end game of capitalism where billionaries own it all and the world turns into the masses being monitored by technology, while having just enough to pay the bills. Because if they had enough to stop working for the billionaires, they would.
I dont think any of this has to do with boomers specifically or that they were more selfish than others. It was just the time when capitalism were booming. Now its over and your generation is late to the party… Its just natural.
Perhaps on the other side of capitalism, something more fair comes along, or maybe humanity turns into fascism for a while.
Capitalism is important but it is a downstream effect of a society that does not prioritize egalitarian values.
A lot of the issues that hyper capitalism has caused can trace their nexus back to Reagan, who had majority support from Boomers at the time and whose policies have disproportionately enriched Boomers at the expense of future generations.
Even more recently a majority of Boomers have supported Trump, who appears to be accelerating the “sell out the public’s future for private riches now” ideology.
Unfortunately for us and them, this will be their legacy. Many of us are waiting eagerly for them to step away from positions of prominence in key institutions so that the rebuilding process can begin, if it’s not already too late.
Its nice to see that hope in your writings, that things will improve once boomers step off. I doubt you will be correct but I like it anyway. Lets hope for that. Cheers.
Am old, remember feeling the same as you youngsters. The sad fact is a lot of people are bad, and usually when they get older they become worse either through mental decay, denial of being bad parents, a constant physical pain built up over the years, etc etc
The only way to fix the system is to burn it to the ground. But funny thing is, everyone wimps out
I think Millenials, Gen Z and Gen Alpha are or will be better, especially with regard to parenting self awareness, but the reality is boomers have left us with a world where having children is financially unfeasible so it won’t matter. But we can follow up in a few decades and see where things are at. I think Boomers will certainly be remembered a certain way (collectively).
My experience makes me feel that members of each generation in power is a hindrance to younger generations.
Sure, we may want the same things, but we don’t go about trying to obtain them in the same way.
Your generation largely has those things… you know, housing, a retirement investment plan… younger generations largely do not, and they never will, because your generation climbed the ladder set up for you by your elders, and then you guys blew it up with dynamite after you finished climbing it, in order to selfishly preserve your own status.
This ultimately destroyed society in the process, and now, well, that bomb your generation threw at the ladder after climbing up the wall… has done collateral damage to the wall itself, and will soon crumble, and you all will have impoverished yourselves and all your children.
The housing market is currently crashing, Trump’s mismanagement has damaged your 401k, and Trump and the Reps really, really want to destroy Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, VA Tricare, all that shit… and the US economy will soon enter into a Second Great Depression, and most of you will die alone, being mistreated in understaffed, corporate run retirement homes, or just on the streets homeless after your house gets foreclosed on and you can’t find work you can actually do.
Your generation could have instead been more equitable with your historically anomalous and freakish amount of prosperity… by continuing and expanding upon the New Deal and Great Society style programs.
Instead, your generation dismantled them, and it made things so unfair and unstable that, unless you are one of the very few who made it into the top 1 to 0.1%, most of your material wealth and accompanying social status will evaporate right when you need it the most.
Oh and there’s also the whole… climate change thing, which your generation refused to take seriously during the timeframe where doing so could have made a difference, so the result is that now most of humanity is doomed to perish this century.
You are the generation that grew up watching a man transposed forward in time, bellowing "You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!” … and then your generation just… did that, blew it all to hell.
Im not American so I dont have a 401k, and im not part of New Deal or Great Society style programs… But sure, I understand why you would assume that. It makes sense because of what I wrote.
About perishing because climate change, I dont believe that will happen. Nature is the least of our problems. Our leaders are the problem. Their greed and lust for power, their tendencies to be narcissists or full blown evil monsters. The worst of humanity. At the top of the pyramids of power.
If the US goes into a full depression, its because of its leaders. The rest of us havent done anything. I think you should blame them, and not previous generations of people just like yourself.
Im not American so I dont have a 401k, and im not part of New Deal or Great Society style programs…
Well, sorry, I shouldn’t have directed this all at precisely you,… but I am used to ‘Boomer’ being a term Americans invented and used to describe their post WW2 population cohort… because that is the actual etymylogical origin of the term.
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/baby-boomer.html
The term ‘baby boomer’ was coined in the USA, clearly with reference to the already widely known ‘baby boom’.
The term ‘baby boomer’ was coined in the USA, clearly with reference to the already widely known ‘baby boom’. This wasn’t for some years after WWII and the earliest citation I’ve found is surprisingly late – a piece in The Bennington Banner from December 1977:
This page has its first use in the US in 1977, as well as more background on the largely US centric and temporally first development of the term.
https://www.oed.com/dictionary/baby-boomer_n?tl=true
The earliest known use of the noun baby boomer is in the 1960s.
OED’s earliest evidence for baby boomer is from 1963, in Brattlebro (Vermont) Daily Reformer.
Another US origin.
If you are using Boomer to mean a non US person in that same age group, I guess that works, but perhaps you can see how that would lead me to assume you are American.
About perishing because climate change, I dont believe that will happen.
You are just objectively wrong then.
We’ve got major acturarial societies saying the cumulative World GDP will be massively shrinking within 20 years, as in less than it is now, with a billion or so more people to house and feed and employ… from climate change losses.
We’ve got global warming consistently exceeding consensus projections.
We’ve got almost all the world’s fertile crop producing land going through a major climate shift or series of increasingly extreme shocks in the next 20 years.
The media just largely stopped talking about these topics.
In the US, we’re looking at about 1/3 of the country’s homes being too climate risky to insure, in just the next 5 to 10 years, insurers are already pulling out, local government run insurance could only work if they massively tax the wealthy, which they won’t… so all those areas will be econonomically dead and climate ravaged in just 5 to 10 years.
All across the country, all of our farms are going untended, crops unharvested, because ICE is arresting migrant farm laborers willy nilly, and they often target places of work, so… they’re not working anymore, and the result is going to be an artificially induced famine, an American Holodomor, massive food price increases, basically unless the entire Trump regime and MAGA movement is magicked out of existence, or they all suddenly become … whatever the opposite of a deranged, craven idiot is.
If the US goes into a full depression, its because of its leaders. The rest of us havent done anything. I think you should blame them, and not previous generations of people just like yourself.
Precisely. I will blame the masses of voters who fell for the bs of the leaders, who voted them into power, who voted away their rights and futures… in a democratic society.
Obviously the leaders themselves are evil.
But if our leaders are the problem, and they have been enabled, and not stopped, and we know they are leading us to ruin… and everyone just goes ‘not my fault, i didn’t do the really bad stuff personally, directly, myself!’, then congrats, most of us will die and the rest will suffer greatly.
The entire evil of unexamined complex systems is that they abstract out things into so many layered steps that everyone can argue they aren’t truly responsible or their actions were justified within the context of their specific role.
The purpose of a system is what it actually does, not what it purports or claims to do.
The only way to stop this is by applying Nuremberg style ‘just following orders is not an excuse’ logic, otherwise, again, most of humanity is going to die between 2040 and 2060.
… But, we have also passed the historical point where doing this would be even maybe kind of politically possible or likely.
I think its alright. If humanity dies out, I think we are simply not intelligent enough to live on. We built systems of capitalism and killed our planet. So be it.
Ok, got it, you flip flopped from ‘nah it wont be that bad’ to ‘well if we all die thats just fate’.
Thats uh, either death cult thinking mentality, or extreme apathy after being explained why the position you hold is wrong, which in my experience, is extremely stereotypical Boomer behavior.
‘This won’t be a problem’
Actually it will, here’s why.
‘Oh well, nothing to do about it.’
Yes, thank you for being an obstinate, disingenuous hypocrite, very useful and productive behavior.
I am amazed that you can just say the end of the human species is ‘alright’.
The moral selfishness of that is astounding.
Im just being honest. Not sure how many people feel like I do about it. Perhaps just a handful, perhaps millions.
But yeah, im sure its selfish to just not care that much about what happens to humanity.
Im selfish in that way. I accept what happens.
Bro I’m 50
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Hey bud, idk who pissed in your cheerios this morning but you should go back to bed. Nobody logged on to deal with this kind of anger and aggressive language.
Honey catches more flies than vinegar 😘
That comment got deleted by mods. You could probably make your points in a better way. No reason to try and call me things when you can just state your reasons for disagreeing… Its fine to not agree.
I’m very impatient. Anything we can do to maybe speed up the process?
The world will improve significantly when the wealth hoarding boomers just finish dying off.
It would improve without humans, too.
Can you just kill yourselves and leave the rest of the world alone?
Do what his idol did and hitler yourself already
I think the saddest part about these WW3 memes is that it really does feel like the people making them only care about the conflict being engineered in the Middle East by Trump and Natanyahu because there’s a chance that it might negatively impact their own lives. The implication is that as long as this doesn’t actually turn into WW3 (it won’t, Jesus Christ please learn some basic history) it’s fine and a bunch of people getting killed by bombs is missiles is OK as long as they’re brown and way over there.
You’re probably right in some cases, but I think it’s more of a way of people dealing with their disbelief that it’s come to this. There’s a lot of ways to process the current insanity; dark humour is possibly the most accessible though.
That’s where I am, we went from being in disbelief that an active genocide is being supported by the US, to the US contemplating nuking a country cause Bibi says they have WMDs.
Usually when I’m befuddled I resort to observational comedy.
Sure, but the button on the meme could just as easily have said “WAR” as “WW3”. It’s even the same number of characters. Do you see what I’m getting at? The the constant fearnongering about this turning into WW3 always suggests that what’s happening right now isn’t bad enough. Surely the dark humour could be directed at the actual real bad things Trump is currently doing, rather than hypothetical bad things that he might be doing?
Hyperbole is often an essential part of humor, dark or otherwise.
I don’t feel like the hyperbole defense really cuts it when a significant number of people think the hyperbole is true. You can find an example of that happening in this same thread and I’ve had plenty of other interactions like it. For every person who takes it as hyperbole, there’s another who genuinely feels like we’re staring down the barrel of WW3, and that kind of fear is dangerous and harmful.
It’s never “Just a joke” when the joke is hurting people.
Realistically there is absolutely nothing any of us can do to stop this. Anyone who isn’t an arsehole is constantly appalled and sickened by the constant conflict created by the usual sad little psychopathic narcissists.
About all we have left is black humour expressed as memes. You can’t stay constantly anxious about it or you go mad, and at this point humour is basically self-preservation.
I feel like you’re reading a lot into this and start with a false premise. Both war and WW3 can be bad, WW3 is just more memeable
Your final sentence has pretty much been american military policy for the last few decades.
Don’t start a major global conflict and kill mostly brown people of a different culuture and religion and we will get away with it.
Perhaps there is an element of that but I think many people are bracing for a repeat of the Iraq weapons of mass destruction scenario so they’re starting early with using humor as a coping mechanism.
Many also feel that Israel’s current government is a fascist genocidal regime that very likely will be the instigator of WW3. Which should be a lesson to humanity in general on fascism as those that face the greatest trauma (as they did in WW2) are often more open to the extremes of nationalism and ethnic cleansing.
What makes you sure it won’t be WW3? I don’t know enough to comment just asking for your perspective
Turn the question around. Ask yourself, what are the conditions necessary for this to become WW3?
First, at a minimum, you need more than one major power to become involved. For the purposes of this discussion I’ll define make powers as The US, The EU / NATO (functionally indistinguishable for all practical purposes at this point), China, Russia, India.
Aside from the US, the only other major power with a serious interest in the region is Russia. You can vaguely make an argument for the EU, but they’re too concerned with the war in Ukraine to really give a shit right. At best you might see some involvement from the UK, and they’re no longer strongly aligned with or capable of influencing the rest of Europe.
So basically the only way this escalates beyond a limited regional conflict is if Russia decides to throw in. For Iran. While they’re struggling to win a war in Ukraine that is currently cratering their economy and killing off an entire generation of young Russian men. Do you really think they have the slightest inclination to get into a shooting war with the US right now, with everything they’re currently facing? I’m not even sure they have the logistics capacity to actually get troops to Iran right now.
But what if local powers get involved? They won’t. No one in the region likes Isreal or Iran. They’re both pariahs. No one around them wants to get involved in a war for either of their sakes.
Hell, they can barely even fight a war with each other. Rockets and bombing raids are the only real options they have, because there’s a whole lot of Iraq in between them. At best the US could stage a naval invasion (something that Isreal has no capacity to do on their own), in which case what you’re looking at is another Iraq style invasion followed by twenty years of bloody, costly occupation as they try to maintain order over a mountainous region containing a hundred million people.
That’s really reassuring thanks
Let me add - and I should have said this in my original reply - that I completely get why it’s easy to feel scared about this stuff. First, there’s this constant environment of everyone talking about the looming threat of WW3, which is exactly what memes like this contribute to, creating a culture of fear for no good reason.
But, second, there absolutely is a general ratcheting up of tensions across the world. Major powers are more militarized than they ever have been previously, and the strong trade relationships that helped maintain peace are eroding. There is, absolutely, an increased likelihood that we’re going to see conflicts break out, but what’s missing is the specific conditions needed for those conflicts to spiral out in a mass scale escalation.
What I think we’re likely to see over the next ten to twenty years is more limited regional conflicts like Ukraine. I think it’s quite likely, for example, that India and Pakistan may go to war. But there’s simply no reason to believe that war will pull in other major powers.
The world is becoming a scarier place. You’re not wrong to feel that way. And any conflict is a tragedy. Why these memes annoy me is not because I’m on the “Nothing ever happens train” but rather because they discard very real, very valid concerns in favour of this nebulous fantasy of everyone dying in nuclear fire for vague and unspecified reasons.
Yeah buddy we got starving kids in our country that people don’t care about. Take a moment and process that.
Why you ask because the rich assholes set up the system so nobody gets rich doing “the right thing”.
Why does everyone need to be rich you ask?
So they can pay to not be effected by the failings of the “greatest country in the world” society.
I laugh at these memes because dark humor is my only way of coping.
It seems like there’s nothing else I can do. I don’t just care because it might negatively impact my life. Every time I look at the news (and for sure this is not just under Trump’s America, it’s been going on forever) more people are dying across the world in stupid wars because of stupid childish adults in power. And now our Antichrist President is stoking things up even more and even more people will die and it’s only to fuel his ego and his rich friends’ interests.
I vote, I speak up, I try to do my part and be the change and all, but what more am I going to do? I could stand in the middle of the street in front of the capital and scream how wrong this is but I’ll just get written up as another ignorant millennial lunatic and in the meantime I’ve been working sustained 50-80 hour weeks with no improvement in sight and can still barely afford to eat. Can’t change the government alone, especially not when there’s rent to pay and I’m bloody exhausted.
You’re misunderstanding my point. I’m not telling anyone off for venting about the prospect of America kicking off yet another forever war, or another brutal bombing campaign. That shit sucks, and people need to vent about it. Sometimes dark humour is the way to do that.
My issue is very specifically with people framing it as “World War 3”, even though a) its not, and it won’t be, and there’s nothing happening right now that could realistically cause it to be, and b) “War” should be bad enough. There’s plenty to vent about right there. Actual real people will die for the sake of Netanyahu’s political career and Trump’s fragile ego. That’s awful, and if you need to vent through memes to cope with that, fair play. But why do we have to add this entirely fictitious “world war” layer just to make it somehow worth venting about? Why build up this completely fictional set of horrors in place of the very real ones, in a way that convinces people already stricken with despair that things are somehow even worse?
You’re absolutely correct. Shit really sucks right now. Everything is awful. So why the fuck would you (plural, indirect, nonspecific) want to convince people that its even worse than that? Seems like reality is already bad enough.
Point well made, I agree.
I think sometimes there’s a sort of dark humor for some in exaggerating to the worst scenario in memes, knowing that it’s exaggerated, but then other people find it tiresome or too much. I don’t know, I don’t make memes, I just steal them.
That’s a hell of a lot of projection, meme makers are usually highly regarded gnomes tasked with morale in factory lines of the pole and unfortunately most now freelancing because it was something with their genes not like racism but more like a mutation of sorts and this group specifically of gnomes are not fit for the usual gnome tasks which is why they are highly regarded because most gnomes wish they were in contact with computers and Internet but they can’t be trusted with such
I’m actually hoping that this is another domino falling towards a world-ending ww3, this planet is fucked either way. Better to be vaporized instantly than to slowly be cooked to death over decades.
It’s another Six-day War with far more exciting weapons and a surprisingly feisty opponent. In the end, Israel always wins, mostly because it looks like Islamist regimes are shockingly bad at war. I mean Jesus fucking Christ, leaving your top scientists exposed?
Scientists are not valid military targets
This is Israel we’re talking about.
I don’t like what people are focusing on.
I’ll change the subject.
Now I don’t like that people are talking about how I bungled some part of the distraction.
I don’t like what people are focusing on.
Repeat.
If they don’t celebrate my birthday I will celebrate their deathday
Thinking he was afraid to TACO again. Whatever the case, it’s all dumb.
Well the parade didn’t stroke his ego, so this was the next best thing.
