I didn’t say it was magic. Part of the issue is we don’t know what modifications he made in making his artificial version. I won’t pretend like there aren’t a lot of unknowns there. It could alter the effectiveness in numerous ways.

Having a heterozygous deletion is still effecting the right gene. Without knowing both of her parents genetics it’s hard to say if it was natural. What he did could produce either a heterozygous or homozygous result on the gene, but only the homozygous presentation is effective at prevention.

So 1 was a full success and the other showed activation on the appropriate gene, but not enough to confer resistance. Although it is possible it does since he used an artificial gene. We know the natural one is not effective in a heterozygous presentation. I still think that was his greatest mistake. He should have just used the naturally effective gene.

You do make a good point with the full backing rigor of the scientific method this procedure would always be successful.

So far I’m liking lemmy more because there is a lot less per post. I find I’m enjoying each thread more fully. It’s like I’m not endless scrolling because I can’t. I’ve actually read more articles in the day since I’ve joined than in my last 3 months on reddit.

Per the wikipedia page it states that it is not clear if it effective because they’re not going to intentionally infect the children to test it. But we see the results specifically on the targeted gene. That’s a success and demonstrates the technology works.

I’d argue the folly was inserting an artificial gene as opposed to the natural gene that we already know works. Either way the technology showed expression on the correct gene, that is a success.

We’d be having a better discourse on this if his results weren’t banned from every journal and not studied.

By all accounts what he did worked. The potential to end HIV is huge. The amount of human suffering that could be reduced by rolling out what he did is very real.

The technology is here. It’s better to strictly manage it for the public good than to lock it away.

Dismissing a state’s right to sovereignty is the most anti-democratic thing I can think of.

Considering Ukraine is the only modern/western democracy to have been invaded for territorial conquest in about 80 years demonstrates the level of bullshit that you’re spouting.

This should have been fixed in the 1800s when Andrew Jackson defied the Supreme Court, but it was ignored and here we are

Well this is what I was waiting for. We’re boned

It’s like not standing for anything and sacrificing your party’s morals in the name of “compromise” isn’t a solid strategy

This is something I’m also interested in

I’m hopeful this will all lead to America’s farmers breaking from the republican party.

I fear american farmers will go bankrupt and all their land will be bought by corporations.

Ignores my statement of active action

Claims point was proven

Refuses to elaborate

Leaves

Bold moves

Okay so we’re going to have to define words.

Reason:

1. a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event.
2. the power of the mind to think, understand, and form judgments by a process of logic.

Please refer to definition 2.

Sure we can spend all day defining words, but that’s obtuse. You very well know what I meant. Not turning an active flight around is magnitudes different than continuing arrests and deportation after a court order.

A justification requires at least some pretense of a reason. Just because you want to is a statement.

Once again, it’s not a cope to acknowledge that things are bad now and they can get worse. I’m going to protests, I’ve stopped all discretionary spending, and I tell my story to anyone that will listen (my work has been directly impacted). Hell I haven’t spoken to my Trump voting father in months. Short of taking arms against the government there’s not much left to do, and frankly to get to that level the milestones on the way to the bottom do matter a lot.

Saying I felt like it is not a justification. Wouldn’t call this a cope either. I know things are bad, but there’s still room for them to get much much worse. I think they will reach that point. It’s just watching the milestones pass now.

There are words and there are actions, but we’re not far off

I don’t know how to make people understand the difference between personal and national debt. It’s frustrating

At least they’re still working under pretense and condition. They “can’t” turn them around because they’re already in route.

It’s not good, but they are using a contrived reason. I’m afraid for the day they stop trying to justify it and keep doing it.

Things are getting to that point rapidly

If they arrest more people after the court order. That will tell us for sure.

I’m not saying things are good right now, they’re pretty bleak