Elon Musk has exited the White House—physically, at least.
Donald Trump’s “special government employee” is no longer working within the DOGE offices as he prepares his exit from the Trump administration and focuses more on saving his floundering businesses from failure.
“Instead of meeting with him in person, I’m talking to him on the phone, but it’s the same net effect,” White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles told the New York Post in an interview discussing the Trump administration’s first 100 days.
Sure, Jan.
Dude already stole all our data and destroyed every bureau of federal government that was in his way.
And helped destroy most of the others as well. He doesn’t need to be there in person.
I want to see these fucking traitors hang.
There’s a very good chance we see justice now that the neoliberals are out of the DNC. They didn’t want to hold Republicans accountable because then people would expect neoliberals to be held accountable as well.
The people want them held accountable, and they’ll vote accordingly. With a fair DNC that’s the candidate we’ll get. And without a neoliberals being shoved down America’s throats, winning elections are easy.
People don’t blame Biden’s admin enough for refusing to hold trump accountable for all the shit from his first term. It wasn’t just bad then, it depressed turnout and let trump back in.
Thankfully rational people control the DNC again.
Like the Senate confirmation that just happened?
Since when did the neoliberals leave the Democratic party?
The voting members?
It’s been a slow shift back to the left for a while.
I feel like you’re talking about elected politicians, they’re not “the party”
Democratic voters are the party’s hostages, not the base
What do they have to do with voting members of the DNC?
It feels like you don’t really understand the American political system
Love your optimism
The only rational way to be an optimist is prepare for the worst.
Never put all your eggs in one basket, it costs less than a grand to get kitted out with a rifle and plates, and it’s undeniable that it’s an effective visual deterrent from police violence at protests
Ran out of eggs a while back.
Even if it’s misplaced a bit I feel.
Thankfully rational people control the DNC again
Is there a link or story or something about the DNC being changed out? Because afaik the DNC is the same as it ever was, funded by billionaires and PACs to push austerity, market economics and funding for Israel.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Martin
That’s the new chair, his track record is winning elections, not raising a bunch of money and still losing like prior chairs.
He ran Minnesota’s state party for years and it’s a progressive stronghold because he didn’t stand in progressive candidates way.
But you want a great sign the DNC isn’t in billionaires pockets anymore?
Look at how mainstream media is treating the DNC now, there’s all types of talk about how voters don’t like the DNC, ignoring that a fresh guard took over in February.
When neoliberals held control of the party, the big news media channels were never critical
I guess we will see. Since feb I’ve still gotten a bunch of fundraising txts for shitty candidates that have lost repeatedly in hopeless districts from the DNC. Example: Fl-6 and Fl-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida’s_6th_congressional_district
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida’s_1st_congressional_districtOr Texts from Corey Booker, who has been shitty since before 2016 and yet the DNC keep trying to turn him into the next Obama.
On Mar31 I got a fundraising text from “kamala,” yea, no comment needed there.
If you want to win you need to back candidates that are more then just centrist dems who want to be bipartisan.
If you truly believe the GoP are fascists, then you cannot work with them at all and that isn’t something I see from many of the current Dems. I guess the crop of candidates for 2026 will be revealing, but looking at Fl-1, the only dem candidate is the same one that has lost the previous 5 times, often by >10% of the vote.If you want to win you need to back candidates that are more then just centrist dems who want to be bipartisan.
Welp, again I’d recommend reading up on Martin:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Martin
And I’d be surprised if those texts were really from the DNC, if so it’s probably the zombie vestiges of the “victory fund” nonsense still running bots. That’s the only plausible reason anyways, for a decade the prior DNC was robbing local/state parties with that stuff, they don’t care about the candidates chances because none of it was going to be used for that race anyways
The thing I’ve never really understood about this is what kind of data would the government have that would be any use to an LLM?
I’m sure that musk wanted that government data, but you all ever work with the government? Every data set is some weird pile of forms encoded in fixed width field, wrapped in json, plopped into the cdata of an xml node. Fucking enjoy parsing that shit and when you do you realize you have a form some guy filled out in 1972 to register a trailer.
Is the government sitting on some treasure trove of data that you could feed into an LLM as training data? Because that’s what would actually be valuable.
But musk is a fucking moron so I wouldn’t put it past him to break into an empty bank vault and then scuttle away like the fucking roach he is.
…why would you assume this was all for a stupid AI?
I’m open to the idea it’s for something else. Data to feed into AI is the thing people are willing to pay heaps of money for right now. And musk has an AI company so I thought the thinking was “musk is taking data for his stupid ai company”
If that’s not what he’s doing, then what data and for what purpose?
I loathe musk, but having some trouble connecting the dots.
So if not for feeding into xAI, what data do people think he’s taking and what’s he doing with it?
It has nothing to do with training LLMs.
The US government data (each US citizen’s health, tax, etc. records) will be added to the data from Meta, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and every other tech company that stores “advertising” data to create more complete profiles of each and every US citizen. This data can then be analyzed, filtered, collected and collated by whatever criteria “they” want, for whatever purpose.
NOW the LLMs can be used on this dataset to create lists. Very dangerous (and mostly wrong) lists.
Well that makes more sense than LLMs I suppose. Doesn’t really make a lot of sense why musk would want that given the one thing he doesn’t run is an ad network.
As someone that works in the tech sector though, this idea doesn’t really seem super compelling. The advertisers already have this data, so it just seems like a weird kind of heist to go pull off.
Advertisers already know how much money you make, what illnesses your suffering from (based on things you search for), I mean we live in an unprecedented surveillance states.
Maybe musk wanted his own version of that to sell to people, that’s a somewhat plausible scenario. This just sounds a lot like a conspiracy theory and the rule for a conspiracy theory is “someone has to make money” for the theory to be true.
Is musk a piece of shit, sure. Does the government have data, yep. Does taking the data from the government make musk money, maybe? I guess in the world where it’s a play for him to close the gap on a bunch of demographic information people can already buy from google or X, which he owns.
So I suppose if we see X or xAI offering significantly improved ad targeting or data brokerage that would make this all hang together.
He now owns enough information himself to significantly and selectively hurt anyone who passed through american gvmt system. If you are a guy who tracked his jet, he now knows a lot about you and your relatives. And, besides his personal feuds, he can also help Project 2025 with whatever nazi shit they want to do, whenever they have access to this data now or not.
To complete the profiling of every US’s visitor, or nearly everyone, another but scarily more apt shithead Peter Thiel, who supported republicans and allegedly helped to make Vance (pro-technobros guy) the 2nd in power, was a CEO of PayPal, an angel investor into Facebook, is connected to many in the Silicon Valley besides being powerful and wealthy himself, and for many years he looks into data harvesting and machine learning (Palantir) to profile people, draw connections and find potential undesirables. The tools provided by the later are used by ICE since 2014, but, I assume, they themselves haven’t got direct access to gvmnt databases, and now they may have it.
The whole random deportation catastrophe is probably orchestrated not by pure random of ICE getting rouge, but by the combination of these two and LLM-generated suggestions to raid house A and B. I’ve also heard, their products were used in Ukraine and Israel to sniff on possible targets in active warfare, so there’s a lot more to unbox there rather than simple ad targeting.
Not sure about other agencies but CDC and specifically NCHS typically had to anonymize their health data before public release. If you could use other data points from within the government to connect the dots, that might be valuable to someone.
“Instead of meeting with him in person, I’m talking to him on the phone, but it’s the same net effect,” White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles told the New York Post
So he’s still doing what he’s doing, just working remotely. Despite no other federal employees getting to work remotely.
There’s a reason he installed Starlink at the Whitehouse and several other federal buildings
you mean that wasn’t to get around any security systems in place so he could upload data to ‘remote’ servers ‘somewhere’ outside of the government’s control?
¿Por qué no los dos?
Outside of the US Government’s control, you mean…
Since its starlink its probably not for this purpose, but a commercial internet connection really isn’t that uncommon; sometimes its for the TV in the lobby, or free guest WIFI; usually it’s for systems that perform a necessary function, but would be crippled by network restrictions.
Same thing.
That’s to keep in touch with his handlers in Moscow
Well, he’s special! It’s right there in his title! He’s the specialest little employee. Yes he is! Yes he is!
Exactly. I’ve written my Senators asking who will be keeping track of his communications. Every day he sends an email, message, or makes a call should count as another day worked.
I’d urge you all to do the same until we have a confirmed way to keep tabs on him.
I’d write my House reps, but…
My House rep (left). The other one is just as awful, but not in the spotlight as much.
My senators are old money + age and coal baron who doesn’t pay his bills.
My Representative is trash. I’m stuck in a red district now and it’s rough.
Where does musk live on his day to day anyway? Would be a shame if we carried protests in front of his home.
He walked in
stole what he wanted
& walked out.
Fuck this whole timeline.
If you’re “working” remotely, you’re a lazy piece of shit and should be fired.
You used a funny word there
working. What can a person that’s the COE of multiple companies do enough for any of them to be called working?Barking orders, destroying their reputation and demanding his ass be wiped with silk before jumping on his private jet to do the same thing at the next office in his rotation?
Tesla is still fucked. Never forgive never forget
yup. starlink might be tanking, too. they’re having to give away hardware and discount monthly rates these days.
I thought he works 120 hours per week as he expects from his employees. Loser.
He could do 40 hours for Tesla, 40 hours for DOGE, and 40 hours for SPACEX. I don’t see any problem with that schedule. Lazy wimp.
You forgot about Neuralink, xAI, The Boring Company…
Dead Twitter too.
He doesn’t need to be there in person to tug on Trump’s strings
He can puppeteer him remotely now that he has done the fundamental damage
America, you guys are so fucked
I don’t know how this shit will end, but I can’t see anything other than it getting a whole lot worse in the immediate future, and probably for a generation
we’re probably going to have a civil war of some variety. that’s my prediction at least
I hope not
As with all war, the most vulnerable will be hit hardest
as with our last civil war it will be our bottom tier of society pitted against itself. the sides will, as with last time, be truly horrifically and abjectly evil vs evil but in a way that the most marginalized have some hope of survival under. our only way to a better society afterwards will be to actually do reconstruction this time and not to just half ass it because for the second side they view profit in being gentle to the truly evil.
funny how everytime there’s a big war about whether or not Ur-Fascism is bad, the winning side selects a handful of losers to protect and keep safe, and then those losers become the basis for a new fascist movement. see also: operation paperclip
I don’t know how this shit will end, but I can’t see anything other than it getting a whole lot worse in the immediate future, and probably for a generation
Historically what comes next is a FDR style candidate and a huge progressive movement…
Then 30-40 years later people will forget neoliberlaism was the root cause and the wealthy will buy off both parties again.
Shit is fucked at the moment, but there’s reasons to be optimistic for the future
I sure hope something good comes from it
It’s hard to see right now
I’m grateful that I live in a civilised country, but I would rather not see people harmed anywhere
It’s hard to see right now
Read up on history. Shit really is cyclical.
The details and timelines change, but the biggest thing we’ve ironically got going for us is Trump. He’s an idiot and rushing shit when it isn’t worth the risk to his plans.
He picked the fight with the SC years early for example, he should have spent three years slow-walking them even more to his side. But he’s an idiot.
If he had spent two years putting things in place they might hold on in midterms, then would have been the time to really start going nuts.
Anyone else and we’d be completely fucked, but trump is so dumb he bankrupted casinos, he’s gonna fuck this up.
Oh, the American people will definitely keep fucking things up for you
There’s a reason the rest of the world sneers at you (as a country, not as individuals)
You act like this is new for America and hasn’t happened anywhere else…
Which is crazy because it’s currently happening other places as well…
Like, you don’t seem interested in a conversation, and anything I type will just get an insult directed towards Americans as a reply.
Why punch down?
Why are you acting like trump and his cronies right now?
I’m not punching down
There are fucked up regimes all over the world. I could rant about Pakistan, Argentina, the Philippines, all sorts of places
But they don’t affect other countries like America does
Don’t you dare accuse me of acting like Trump and his cohort
How many US presidencies have you lived through? Some giving hope, most making shit worse
Don’t you dare accuse me of acting like Trump and his cohort
Exactly how trump would react…
No introspection, no questioning of their own behavior…
Just a vague threat because you’re mad someone is judging you on your own words.
Literal belligerence.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/belligerence
One of the most apt descriptions of Trump’s general behavior, which you clearly share
Elon finally found out about the Trump “touch” and how everything Trump touches turns to shit. Elon is not an innocent in this though.
Elon has the same magical touch.
It’s incredible just how dumb he is. Like, dude, just throw daddy’s blood money at these startups and let them do their thing. But no, he has to get involved for ego reasons and absolutely wrecks them in the cringiest way possible.
I think you could draw some correlation ratio between his companies’ times of success and his involvement. An inverse ratio.
That’s what happens when you have exceptionally low self esteem and endless amount of money.
The Mierdas Touch
I’ve been waiting for this to happen for months. That’s how it always goes with t.
Ripped the country apart, now proceeding to fuck up twitter some more.
What’d be do to Twitter lately?
Elon walks into a china shop, destroys everything in sight. Says “oops, better do that over the phone from now on”, walks out again.
Want it to be optimistic, but I am very skeptical
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