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    They don’t actually care about curing cancer, they just use it to justify their existence. If they did cure cancer they’d hide it or figure out how to monetize the fuck out of it.

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      The world’a leading oncologist lives in Cuba, and the American terrorist regime is happy to let him die there with the rest of their people and culture. Pharma execs are still sneaking into the island to interview him though. I think he did make a lung cancer vaccine recently.

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      Well, here’s the thing, you can’t cure cancer. Cancer is just a type of a many different things, all requiring very different avenues of potential “cure”.

      To cure cancer, like it’s a singular, is like the DNA equivalent of “finding the cure for mental illness”.

      So whenever you hear it on the forefront of something, you know it’s bullshit narrative.

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      Reminds me of a two sentence horror I read a few years back:

      “I wish there was a cure for cancer!”

      “Why waste your wish on something that already exists?”

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      I’ve had multiple marketing and finance professors say in class that curing cancers will destroy a multi-trillion dollar industry, the people benefiting don’t want that.

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      did you know those lovely chaps at google have already effectively solved the protein folding problem that is already leading to revolutions in medicine

      oh you didn’t know that. what does that make you

      you like revolutions don’t you? oh only bloody ones. good luck with that

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        Wow.

        Does your whole account just exist to make shit comments (like setting up a strawman arguments you can knockdown like above) and getting downvoted?

        What a sad existence.

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    This doesn’t even seem true. Sam Altman hardly cares about AI’s effect on the climate.

    Edit: Oh I just realized this is how he markets AI.

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    “The race must be won at all costs. When I am god-emperor of the universe, then we can talk about curing cancer or whatever”

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    Excuse me? Explain, if you can, how systematically destroying all life and turning the world into an uninhabitable waste hostile to even the most resilient microbe wouldn’t also eradicate cancer? Checkmate, atheists.

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    neither of those are helpful. apparently that one article stating the diagnosis for cancer wasnt that useful, it required radiologists/oncologist to re-review it again and again, plus they had to use quite a large number of scans too, and the possibility of hallucinating is there too. they already are using AI in DENTAL spaces, where they "detect’ defects in a tooth and the patients accused the dentist of the tooth damage not being present when they went with 2nd, 3rd opinion.

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    With the type of AI they are creating? Probably the best you’ll get is a paper containing a ton of misinformation that sounds correct combined with already established facts/research.

    GenAI can easily regurgitate anything in its training data, but you ask it something about the coding language you just created and it’ll bullshit you because it cannot work without you feeding it training data on said language. It’s very much so like a human in that you ask someone to answer a question about something outside of what they know and they cannot reliably give you a correct answer outside of sheer dumb luck.

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      Of course the good human will hopefully comes to not knowing.

      GenAI has an unfortunate tendency to output consistent sounding stuff with high apparent confidence that means nothing at all. Which still can be useful in a context where the “correctness” can be objectively validated like certain software development tasks, but terrible for anything where the output cannot be automatically verified. Have to decide if it helps you research more concretely, the output doesn’t actually matter if it is wrong

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    I’m not a huge conspiracy guy, but I’m sorry, there is absolutely zero fucking chance there’s no cure for cancer and a dozen other things. They developed vaccinations, antibiotics, ect before the first half of the 19th century. They did this on a bunson burners and petry dishes. These pieces of shit take in BILLIONS in donations a year and have access do gene resequencers, supercomputers, and modeling programs BUT still can’t make a dent over the last 60 years. Absolute bullshit.

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      that might be because controlling random genetic mutation is a bit different than exposing the body to a particular sequence…

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      I’m sorry, there is absolutely zero fucking chance there’s no cure for cancer and a dozen other things.

      This belief occurs because the general population has a misconception of what cancer really is. Cancer is not a single illness with a single cause. It’s a group of diseases associated with error in different aspects of our DNA that control how cells divide and replicate. These errors can happen by mistakes occurring when cells divide, by environmental factors, or be inherited from your parents.

      A universal cure would be virtually impossible as there is no universal cause or development of cancer itself.

      vaccinations, antibiotics, ect before the first half of the 19th century. They did this on a bunson burners and petry dishes.

      They did not develop these types of treatments from first principles. We developed vaccinations over hundreds of years of observation and trial and error. The treatment was utilized before we really knew how or why they worked.

      These pieces of shit take in BILLIONS in donations a year and have access do gene resequencers, supercomputers, and modeling programs BUT still can’t make a dent over the last 60 years

      This is just absolutely false… In the last 60 years survival rates for breast cancer went from 24% to 77%, bone marrow cancer from 10-20% to 70%, leukemia from 14% to 65%… Nearly any cancer you can think of the survival has doubled to tripled

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    “Ending humabity” with “random shinny text generator”… nope… this is just hype for investors

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    This is a solid debate post!

    AI can help a handful of researchers, already advancing cancer treatments, be more productive on path to help enrich big pharma. You or I doing it, are just as likely to be told to inject some bleech and walk it off. But cancer research “token demand” is in the low billions per year, and AI revenue under $1m, never mind any profitability.

    What politicians will pay to build and control skynet and subjugate everyone against their (and friendly Skynet) power/ambitions is in the high $Ts.

    The path to saving humanity is only through power redistribution of UBI/freedom dividends, exterminating political tolerance for national rivlaries, and Israel first loyalties. The only path to avoiding Skynet: https://naturalfinance.blogspot.com/2026/09/a-global-prosperity-manifesto.html

    …

    AI as 3rd superpower (Paul Tudor Jones) real meaning is bond villains as 3rd superpower

    As a piece couched in US nazi empire axiomatic logic, the prescriptions are absurd idiocy:  Trump/Xi negotiations, and regulations on what AI services are sold to the public.  No limits/guardrails on Skynet/government use of AI, and bond villains internal use of models is ungovernable.  Just as nuclear proliferation policy, no one but nazi allegiants should have any power, and all lies to achieve power maximization are justified.  US regime establishment survival requires skynet/AI control over any opposition to their totalitarianist permanence.

    Bond villains are a 3rd superpower threat because they can make $Trillions building skynet/government oppression systems, and as in the movie Ex Machina, pursue power over commercial success ambitions.  Just as Epstein Mossad honeypot operations, directly targeting political loyalties, the bond villains would control all government actors through kompromat obtained by spying.  Anthropic recently SWATed an activist without providing any evidence of unpatriotic disloyalty.  Just as there is some confusion/debate over which of US and Israel is the subservient partner, the same will apply to the US - bond villain relationship.

    US nazi empire with colonies and corrupt nationalism are quick in their hysterics of the dangers of Chinese technology spying or kill switches, but dead silent on caution regarding US championed bond villain technology, or Israeli pagers.  In fact, the hysterics are propaganda to force submission to US championed bond villain technology purchases as the only viable choice.  Technology regulation is possible and a valid safeguard.  It cannot be based on ideology of good nazi champion sources vs evil nazi resistant sources.

    This last section has closed the loop on the humanist abandonment of nationalist rivalry disinformation.  Humanity in all nations prosperity is improved through trade and productivity boosts.  Freedom dividends sharing prosperity/productivity enhancements accelerates prosperity and abundance, by widespread affordability of useful/desriable abundance.  Whoever provides the best value to you is who you would want to provide that value.  This is the only escape path to skynet oppression and extermination.  AI/productivity policy promoting abundance is good for you.  AI policy certain to oppress you, with extermination as the fallback, is bad for you.