And to think, Pierre Polievere was close to becoming Prime Minister.
Fucking dodged a missile there.
MAGA doesn’t believe in accommodating speakers of any language besides English. I’ve seen laugh emojis over the idea of films being translated to other languages. And MAGA complain about being so inconvenienced by having to press 1 fir service in English
Like I just don’t get their philosophy. Foreign languages were always my worst subject but if some isn’t speaking English I dont really care doesn’t bother me. And as bad as I am at languages getting taught a phrase here and there by someone makes me happy and usually makes them very happy if I reuse it with the down the road.
Agreed, French was my worst subject in university. Frigging hated it. That doesn’t mean I think non-english speakers should go hang. It doesn’t inconvenience me to press 1 for service in English. It isn’t a difficult task for food manufacturers to use a computer to translate stuff to other languages. Do they not do that for other countries?
I saw a Facebook post about an actor voicing Spiderman in foreign translations of the film and this simple fact was somehow laughworthy to some. It’s like their attitude is that accommodating non-english speakers is “woke” and a demand from “special snowfkakes” even though the same accommodation is made for English speakers. Squid Game was dubbed over in English for us, along with lots of other foreign shows
This has got to be a joke, but it is hard to tell anymore.
My thoughts exactly.
Elbows to the face.
Merde! In the words of greats:
Viens là, suce ma bite!
Fuck the trolls are filling this thread fast
F Mango Man
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Can I just say; get fucked.
This might be the funniest shit I’ve seen all day. Only because of how absurdly racist and bigoted it is. It wraps around from disgusting right into absurdism.
Unfortunately I think your entirely serious and that alone gets a solid “the fuck is wrong with you”
Canadians arent a race any more than the Dutch. French Canadians are even worse. Unfortunately, inbreeding is a tradition in the old country.
I want to understand you. What is culture to you?
Culture is building a society. The opposite of culture is building a society on destroying another society. Its an oddly contradictory concept, true, but colonialism is perhaps the greatest harm mankind has ever done to itself.
Name one civilization not built on top of another
Inuit, aboriginal Australians, Maori, Sakha, are you seeing the pattern yet?
You realize the natives were constantly fighting among themselves. Making slaves of one another.
That there were several waves of immigrants over the thousands of years prior to the Europeans arriving.
Those waves had to fight one another for land.
Native populations all practice warfare. They do not practice genocide or eugenics. Even taking slaves is a way of exchanging culture among tribes. What they dont do is wholesale slaughter of entire peoples because their sky daddy said it was justified. Its a distinction of culture I’m sure is lost on you.
I suggest you read up in the Huron Iroquois wars. One tribe was decimated and their lands taken be the other.
…that’s very far from the definition of culture.
I agree that this is a pretty skewed definition of culture. It undermines everything that’s happened since (and is continuing to happen everyday). Every time someone tries a new cuisine, gets invited to a new festival, learns something new about history, learns a new language, etc. is adding to the culture
You are exactly correct. Constructive acts build culture. Building bridges between cultures leads to fusions of art and cuisine that beget even more culture.
Colonizers are the opposite of constructive. They are destructive. Colonizers invade, exploit, ostracize, and take. They subtract. You cannot build a stable culture on subtraction.
Canadians get the worst of both worlds. Not only did they invade and desecrate, they decided to adopt two colonizer cultures and name it their own. Two negatives do not make a positive here. Reparation and recognition laws are barely middle age by people standards and they’re already being ignored. Forgotten. Disregarded as inconvenient. None of them can smell the earth over their unending greed for the dollar.
Wow, what a shit post. You got a chuckle out of me, but it looks like not everyone cares for it.
Yeah! That’s totally unreasonable! How could they demand to… checks notes
Sell products without a French manual?
I’m actually in favor of this one, down with that slimy frog language!
Half of the English language would not exist without French.
But Americans use way less than half the English language.
Checkmate.
AI could translate a manual from english to french for pennies and printing it would cost pennies as well. Its a trivial ask.
All this because some manufacturers in the US can’t be bothered to include instructions in French, or a sticker in French to cover the English buttons on a microwave oven. Our laws state that French must be available for products that are sold. That’s all they have to comply with.
If Chinese and other international companies can comply and get away with it by providing badly machine translated crap, in the age of AI slop, American companies can also make that “effort” if they want to be able to sell us their stuff. They can fuck off and keep their shit if they don’t even want to bother trying.
I may speak English but my family doesn’t; they need their badly translated instructions. It’s absolutely worth a commercial war over this. They have no idea of who we are. We did not resist assimilation for centuries to end up being told to speak white by US companies.
Y peuvent bien manger d’la marde.
I doubt anyone on the US side really cares about adding French labeling. He’s thrown in these language demands at the last minute to derail the deal because it’s a power move.
If I had to guess I’d say he’s trying to shake down some American companies that want the deal to go through and/or he’s still aiming to make Canada the 51st state and this is his latest move.
I doubt anyone on the US side really cares about adding French labeling.
Flipping the cereal box over burns calories.
When I put together a cabinet, it had several different languages on the instructions. I just tossed them in the trash, it’s no big deal. Almost everything you buy has several sets of directions in different languages.
Businesses are already doing it and no one cares about continuing to print instructions or caution labels in French. I seriously doubt Trump had read instructions or caution labels of any kind in 20 years.
But Trump loves tariffs because he can pick winners and losers and force businesses to grovel at his feet and collect kick backs. What better way to get kickbacks than messing with the trade deal for our largest trading partner.
There is likely some other play to enrich himself at hand. Dissing the French labeling is a great way to sabotage a deal to enable that play.
American companies complain they can’t compete in world trade, while refusing to translate simple words and instructions. This despite the 1trillion dollars invested in the A.I. industry, that in theory should be able to make translations instantly and accurately.
French is again going to be the most spoken language on Earth in 30 years. Most of N. Africa speaks French.
Cool story, which US companies don’t want to print out translated text enough avoid entry into a profitable market?
The ones complaining to him.
a sticker in French to cover the English buttons on a microwave oven.
le button
To most Quebecers “le button” means “the mound”.
Merde.
Merde is too polite. It has to be marde.
I mean French is also a “white” language only thrust onto other people by colonization in places like Algeria. That said it’s weird to be racist about someone making racist attacks that effect your family.
It’s a specific reference to Québec’s history. We were told that our language was not French anymore, and were not considered “white” by some English speakers.
According to the linguist, testimonies from francophone Canadians reporting being told to speak white stretch into the 1980s, although the expression has become marginal in the 21st century.
Sure so again, your response to contemporary racism is niche historical racism?
Plaît-il?
I was quite clear. Responding to racism with niche historical racism is very weird.
No. Maybe it’s because English is not my native language but I just don’t understand your replies at all. Are you telling me I’m being racist? If so, why?
I was quite clear, you’re being weird. They’re not saying be more white they’re saying you’re American act American which is bigoted and stupid just not in the way you imply. And yes I’m implying it’s a bit racist to respond to bigotry with racism.
I think you’re mistaking inclusion for racism.
No they’re mistaking inclusion for racism, they’re saying act American not act white and so far those two aren’t always the same thing.
*affect
True enough.
Ai can even half ass do it now, there’s no excuse it’s just bigotry
AI can do it exceptionally well now. The MTL days are long gone. As someone who consumes an obscenely large amount of Asian webnovel slop, the translations are almost perfect.
Russia tried to do it with Ukrainian language and culture. 8 years ago, vast majority of Ukrainians in the north and east of the country used russian for every day communication (me among them). Now you’d be hard pressed to find even a few outside of the occupied territories. I believe the professional term for this is “backfired spectacularly”.
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You are very racist
And a touch insane
World literally too stupid to go on
Don’t do anything rash: as a millennial you have so much to live for and so many things to learn.
Learn to speak English properly or don’t use it at all.
There are so many lovely people who speak English as a second language and not very well but who I would always be happy to listen to. On the flip side the guy you replied to could be a scholar of English language and I’d still want them to shut the fuck up 🤣
Yeah but they’re learning, that was just word salad, I suspect auto translated.
Wait did he actually say that??? I’m surprised Trump even knows French is an official language in Canada
I suspect the reality is something like them not needing to do dual languages on products we import.
This will explain a bit more.
It does a little bit there’s not much elaboration on what specific demands were made re: french language and Quebecoise culture
This other article linked from the first one has a much better explanation: https://montrealgazette.com/news/why-the-u-s-sees-quebecs-french-language-laws-as-a-trade-barrier/
Thank you, yes it does.
Kind of maddening that a government would try to demand that of another. US businesses do not need to be babies to this extent.
It’s such a crazy demented request that has no chance of resulting in a deal. It is such a small buisness cost to market in cultural acceptable labels in any country they do business in. It’s like asking to sell english only labelling in Mexico. It’s an internal Mexico governance issue what languages should be present for their consumers, but businesses know that sales improve as a result of projecting respect for consumers.
La Riposte.
A movement to inspire all Anglophone Canadians to commit to learning a bit of French everyday in response to US economic and cultural aggression.
Symbolic, valuable, but extremely accessible. CBC has an app (Mauril) that our tax dollars already pay for, and of course there are dozens of language learning apps, many free.
Something almost anyone can do, at no cost. It’s good for you. It’s good for Canada (bilingual workforce opens many international doors). It’ll piss Trump off.
Canada needed something to get behind, all together. If it gains enough traction, CBC and companies like Duolingo will pick up the bump in traffic and the story gets legs.
Am I high? Would you commit to learning more French and then actually do it, for this reason?
Edit: I did buy a couple of domains already. I might actually throw together a one pager tomorrow and just try to get it out there.
Edit 2: la-riposte dot ca. Pretty sure my links are being removed
Je suis anglaise, mais j’ai appris français de France au college il y a longtemps. Mais j’aimerais bien apprendre français québécois. Jeu-t’allée, tabernak! C’est tout je connais lol
I’m not Canadienne is what I’m saying, but I’d gladly switch my je suis allée to jeu-t’allée if it annoys a maga.
Please share the link if you do it!
Québécois here, it’s more like chu-t’allée. The French are the ones that pronounce Je like Jeu. These 2 words sound very different in Québec French.
Happy to help with any Québec French question!
Are there any Quebec specific ways to insult Trump?
Not really, no…
I linked it but it may have been removed
La-riposte
Dot ca
I’m in! I was actually already thinking about it as my best friend had a stroke last week and we’re thinking maybe french might help her communicate better. She studied french for years and lived in France as well. Hasn’t spoken it in years though. A good friend from Montreal will be visiting her in the hospital this week, going to try.
I’m no web developer but wanted to get it out fast while the iron is hot.
Please tell 2 people about it, ask those people to tell 2 people about it.
I’m very interested in this myself!
Thank you for sharing that. Can you imagine US folks also getting into this? I bet some would.
There are the Cajuns, we could patriate them.
they could bring back some white onyo.
I’ve been trying to learn French. My whole dad’s side of the family is Québécois but I grew up with my Mum for the most part in Ontario and was never spoken French to :(. I’ve cut off most of that side of the family now but I still adore everything about Québec and want to feel at home there someday
As a québécois, I strongly suggest to watch Infoman (canadian politics satire, excellent way to stay informed on the federal level politics).
Also, some classics: “Dans une galaxie près de chez vous” (a show in the style of Red Dwarf, but targeting a younger public), “Le coeur a ses raisons” (a parody of soap operas), and even older “La ptite vie” (may not have aged as well, but depicts a typical Montreal family in the 80s)
For the hardcore, listen to François Pérusse “L’album du peuple”.
All these things can be watched and rewatched many times and will never get boring.
Happy cake day!
Hmmmm nazis trying to erase their French neighbors… where have I heard this before?..
"loss of sovereignty? Stop! I can only get so hard!”
