Okay fair enough, this is more exhausting than it’s worth so I have no interest in taking this further. 👍 Have a good one!
Okay fair enough, this is more exhausting than it’s worth so I have no interest in taking this further. 👍 Have a good one!
Sugar is clearly not a necessary part of nutrition. I have several relatives who live completely sugar-free who are feeling better than they ever have. No sugar intake, not even fruit, no carbs that turn into sugar. It’s the LCHF diet. So it’s a pretty good example after all.
Look, you’re doing your very best at making me out to be the bad guy here. With your extreme stretching of what I’m saying, that “we as one people on earth” is “still a grouping” but it’s a group consisting of all people? Come on, bruh. Really? That’s just being extreme. I feel like you’re up to some kind of rhetorical abuse here. It’s not sea-lioning, but almost tangential. Breaking down every single detail of what I’m saying, isolating it from its context, then generalizing it. Ignoring the major points. It’s not a pleasant way to have a discussion, friend. You know what I’m saying and what you’re doing isn’t cool. Just thought I would let you know. (Also, inb4 “oh oh, it’s not pleasant when you’re WRONG?!” I can see this one coming, so please. I’m saying this knowing full well how it sounds.)
Look, I’m just calling it out like I see it, that name-calling isn’t productive, and I told you I’m focusing on this particular example of calling this person a Luddite and how it isn’t helpful to the conversation at all. There’s no need for grouping one individual in this case. Right? That was my point.
It’s gonna suck.
We bought an apartment right before the Ukraine war started. It was before the construction of the building so we had to wait a few years before moving in. Had to pay a lot more interest than we had planned after the war broke out. Add the pandemic to that as well.
And now we have an AI bubble about to burst right when we’re looking to maybe buy a house.
FML, this world isn’t how I imagined it would be when I was growing up.
I would say that just because it comes naturally to us doesn’t mean it’s what’s best for us. Just like sugar tastes good doesn’t mean it’s good for you.
What I said in the beginning was this:
Names for groups of people who think a certain thing
So I’m going to only stick to that, even though I generally believe we should try to refer to people as “we” as much as possible unless absolutely necessary. We are one people on this earth, even if we have small differences in our needs and circumstances. And we have very common, global problems right now.
In this particular case, is was not necessary to introduce the fact that a person could be referred to as a “Luddite”. It made no difference and only served to polarize and segregate.
But clearly it wasn’t something anyone wanted as it was later reverted, and not kept in because it was supposedly harmless.
I get what you’re saying though. I’m just glad someone in those comments actually analyzed the situation instead of putting their trust in the charismatic LLM. Those people still exist!
Interesting. Clearly a common thing, then. Thanks for sharing that!
What I’m saying is that you can talk about a problem without introducing a term to describe the people participating in the discussion. That’s a different thing to what you’re describing.
But either way, if you really need labels in your discourse, you want to put the labels and categories on (a group of) ideas, not the people having them. Can we agree on that part?


Happy cake day!
I just don’t understand the workflow with these people.
You know how people say “don’t run a command you are given or find online unless you know exactly what it does”?
Why would anyone accept/merge a PR from an LLM unless they knew what the consequences were, or verified its claims. I just will never get this trust in LLMs, given I know even vaguely how they work.
Ah, so they blamed pulse for driver and firmware bugs? I guess that happens easily.
I don’t understand the reason or need to be calling anyone anything, even if it’s accurate. Names for groups of people who think a certain thing only serve to polarize the discourse, at best, or worse, target them with propaganda (aimed at the “other” group).
Creating a “them” is just counterproductive to the conversation and the facts.
Alright. Nothing I knew about at the time.
Still it worked really well for me, and the experience I have is basically that a working system (pulse) was replaced by another (pipe). Must’ve been lucky.
Yeah that pisses me off, too. I don’t want to have to append to my questions that I don’t want AI answers. If I ask a human, it’s because I want a human response. I know how to search the internet. But having a human interaction and discussion and thought process is sometimes more fun.
We could be in the break room and I’ll ask people, “do you remember if X or Y” or some shit, I dunno.
Immediately with the phones, and they just turn it around for me to read, they won’t even read it to me.
What’s the goddamn point of being human anymore.
I’m a user for about 20 years.
I must be lucky. I had no issues with pulseaudio. In fact I thought it was so wonderful how you could hear multiple applications at the same time!
I thought gnome 3 was really cool as well. I didn’t use it as long as I did 2, but that’s because I found out about tiling window management (and later scrolling window management). But I liked the design of Gnome 3, not sure why. Felt modern, like a bold step in a modern direction. 😊
Systemd I just have no feelings about. I’m not well-read about the drama or how or why it’s a badly designed system. I don’t write my own units or whatever. I just start/enable and stop services. 😅
But these were just examples. Maybe you mean more stuff have been bad coming from Redhat.
we’re just so extremely susceptible to it.
Judging by the leaders of the world throughout history — yes we are indeed. And it’s so sad.
What would you say is low quality in those projects you listed there?
Also didn’t know Redhat developed those.


No, no. Just time wise.


Very, very good point.
Actual comment proving it’s bullshit: https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/7074#issuecomment-4556782893
But the PR is still merged. What does that mean. They just accepted it anyway? 😢
Edit: it was reverted, I hear ya 🙏🤟
I’m not in the US but this shit hits globally, especially the Ukraine war which is closer to me here in Europe.
I’m at least lucky to be driving an EV and not being affected so much by the gas prices, which are now back to peak pandemic/Ukraine war prices.
Had a friend telling me they filled half a tank for like $90. Pretty crazy. Meanwhile charging from 20–90% is like $15 for me.