The South will rise again!

-The underlying belief motivating all of this

  • Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca
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    Because you people didn’t punish the South after the civil war and then let a bunch of richwhitemen run the fucking country.

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      Wish I could up vote your comment twice. There needs to be retribution dolled out to the South for this.

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      Reconstruction was ended too early, in large part because of the Lincoln assassination, and the very questionable choice to appease the South by putting Andrew Johnson a heartbeat away from the presidency

      We definitely should have been draconian in punishing the south, but our greatest mistake is civility politics. The leaders were all in the same social circles, and to this day that’s a recurring problem that plagues most democracies. They didn’t want real consequences for their buddies

      So all in all, we didn’t strip enough power from the leadership and stopped punishment way earlier than even the overly light-handed plan in place

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    Why? Because we’re an oligarchy from the start and this is what happens when special interests run the show for decades (centuries, even)

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      This is what everyone fails to see. The US was corrupt to begin with. Our first President was on his way to becoming the world’s first billionaire adjusted for inflation and he would have if not for dying at 67.

      People are like how did we get so corrupt!?

      eye roll

      Did you just notice, because it has always been this way.

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    If I visit the States, should I visit Micihgan, Missssssppq, or the sunny Pqsqr keys?

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    A mixture of stupidity and cruelty. Those things usually go together. Also so much racism, which is a subcategory of stupid and cruel.

    There are a lot of people who would rather personally suffer and die than see a black person have something nice. That’s been festering here for decades.

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      There are a lot of people who would rather personally suffer and die than see a black person have something nice. That’s been festering here for decades.

      And when Obama was elected, it permanently broke something in their brains

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    The billionaires are now richer than many nation states.

    I guess the next development is that they will start to go to war against each other over commercial advantage.

    Guess who will be in the front line as part of the Great Amazon-SpaceX War?

    Not Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk.

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      I, for one, welcome the possibility of corporate gun battles to spice up my morning commute.

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        Commute? Don’t worry, you’ll get a cramped apartment in a company town right next to your work. The walls stopping you from leaving will be for your protection

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          No way the gas companies will allow that. The compound will be a reasonable 25 minute drive from the workplace, with convenient stops along the way for goods and services.

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        Not sure if you got my suggestion.

        You won’t be commuting, you will be dodging killer drones with Burger King logos.

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          …yeah. like I said, commuting. Tbh probably safer, I’ll take the Burger Killer King over the Dodge DUI any day.

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    I’m sorry. Are people actually confused about why? It’s all just personal enrichment. This isn’t complicated.

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      Usually, if you want enrich yourself or your friends, you’d want to create a climate favorable to economic growth and skim little off the top of that using the usual corruption methods. You don’t want to start a multitude of trade or literal wars that threaten the global economy.

      If it wasn’t for Trump being the cause of this, you’d almost think this collapse is intentional…

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        That’s how you do it until you start to bump against the limits of growth. When the growth is done, profits no longer matter as much as straight ownership of what remains, and it’s easier to take pieces if you smash it first.

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    The question nobody seems to have an answer to is, “Why?”

    1. Is it that (…) Trump’s been a Russian agent for decades and is setting us up to lose to the newly-forming Axis of Russia and China?
    2. Is it that he spent so many years burning with rage and embarrassment at not being accepted by New York high society that he’s just come to hate America?
    3. Could it be that American-values-hating foreign powers that have poured literally billions of dollars into the Trump family are paying him to tear us apart so they’ll never again have to endure the humiliation of having their human, civil, and women’s rights records called out by a future administration?
    4. Is it possible it’s all just to pay for tax cuts for billionaires?
    5. Or are his, Vance’s, and Musk’s white supremacist, Christian nationalist, libertarian, and/or neo-Nazi ideologies so intense that they’re willing to essentially burn the country down just to expel immigrants, deny benefits to people of color, elevate the rich, crush unions, and re-subordinate women?

    Trump’s personal motives aside, I think it’s mostly #4, but it goes a little further than just tax cuts: certain people who pay MAGA a lot of money want to abolish any form of a functioning state in favor of their vision of corporate entities ruling the land.

    PS: the articke doesn’t have an answer either.

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      First and foremost it’s because he is literally insane, and doesn’t give a shit about the harm he is causing.
      So whatever it is he wants, he doesn’t give a shit about the consequences to others. If 10 people need to die for him to earn 1 dollar, he will do it, if there are no negative consequences to himself.

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    The question is not “why?” Anytime you’re stuck asking “why” about a situation, you’re in denial. The real question every decent person needs to be asking themselves and everyone else:

    What would you sacrifice to make the world a better place for other people?

    And if the answer is “nothing” or “not much,” you’re part of the problem.

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    They have been doing this looooong before donnie d’felon came onto the scene.

    See Newt’s GOPAC and how they documented their tactics to demonize normal Americans, in other words, anyone not a conservative/ Republican in their memo: Language: A Key Mechanism of Control. The evidence goes back further than that (see Democracy in Chains for how little conservatives really care about democracy, or how Nixon was going after “drugs” in order to go after their political foes), but this is from 1990.

    https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/featured/mechanism-control-1990-gop-memo-reshaped-american-politics-turning-language-weapon/

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      Oh yes the War on Minorities err I mean Drugs.

      Nothing like destroying millions of minority families and disproportionally locking up anyone who is not white.

      Honestly, the whole Democracy thing is just a smoke screen for oligarchy rule. The US government pits the house (supposed to represent the people) against the senate, judicial, and executive branch (representing the wealthy). 3 to 1 odds are pretty shitty and a poor excuse for a democracy that ultimately is lip service only.