• tomiant@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    30 minutes ago

    You know what I hate? That we don’t mock the fact that DOGE was named after a fucking dog meme and a meme coin.

    That is literally the origin of the name of that de facto now apparently defunct “governmental institution”.

    • halcyoncmdr@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 hour ago

      That would require the DOJ to not be political, and they very definitely are nowhere near that point anymore.

      The Judicial needs their own enforcement arm. Once we’re through this (one way or another) the US Marshall’s Service should be moved under the Judicial Branch to enforce Judicial Decisions instead of relying on the Executive Branch.

    • FenrirIII@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      27
      ·
      7 hours ago

      We can’t do that, silly. That would set a precedent and we can’t have people being held responsible.

  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    89
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    9 hours ago

    Yeah but the damage happened in real time. There would need to be standing to sue for the damages cause and accumulated since.

    Anecdotal but it’s a real story about getting doge’d. I was working on some climate research as part of a climate smart commodities grant (search that program for details), a big one which took years to gain the trust of hundreds of indigenous farmers and non profits to participate in. We were already struggling with USDA bullshit and red tape trying to get payments to farmers who had already spent money and been approved for certain payments, before doge came along.

    And because of doge, the entire 50mil program got cut. Maybe not hundreds but dozens of farmers and non profits went out of business because they chose to trust the federal government to be reliable on their word. Not to mention an almost 40 person research team, practically a whole department.

    and the trust that took years to build to get these historically disenfranchised groups to the table, to get them to trust the process and work with the government… that’s NEVER coming back.

    • village604@adultswim.fan
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      32
      ·
      8 hours ago

      I worked for a company that increased government efficiency by 900% in a certain area.

      Guess whose contract got cut by DOGE?

      • halcyoncmdr@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 hour ago

        Well of course. Republican naming schemes are to call something the exact opposite of what it is. Across the board. Doesn’t matter if it’s something they’re trying to pass or something they are against.

        If you hear them talking about something you can safely assume it’s the exact opposite of reality.

  • Grimy@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    7 hours ago

    After being deployed from DOGE to NEH, Justin Fox used search terms, which he labeled as “Detection Codes,” to identify grants that he dubbed the “Craziest Grants” and “Other Bad Grants.” The search terms included, among other terms, “BIPOC (Black, Indigenous, People of Color),” “Minorities,” “Native,” “Tribal,” “Indigenous,” “Immigrant,” “LGBTQ,” “Homosexual,” and “Gay.” When Fox was asked whether he “r[a]n this list of words through every grant description” he received from NEH, he confirmed, “yes.”

    I’m a bit at a lost for words here. That is way beyond what I was expecting.

  • NarrativeBear@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    42
    ·
    9 hours ago

    This line from the article about DOGE still trying to shift responsibility to ChatGPT.

    McMahon also pushes back on the government’s argument that “there is no real constitutional problem here because any viewpoint-based classification was ChatGPT’s doing, rather than the Government’s:”

    “There is no distinction to be drawn here between the Government and ChatGPT. ChatGPT was the Government’s chosen instrument for purposes of this project, and DOGE’s use of AI to identify DEI-related material neither excuses presumptively unconstitutional conduct nor gives the Government carte blanche to engage in it. …There is not a scintilla of evidence that Fox or Cavanaugh, having obtained a “DEI” rationale from ChatGPT, undertook any meaningful review of whether that rationale made sense.”

    • jaybone@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      5 hours ago

      We’re going to see a bunch of businesses blaming AI when they fail (because of AI…)

    • NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      22
      ·
      7 hours ago

      I’m a broker and I asked a random homeless person what to do with everyone’s money that was entrusted to me, so they are the one on the hook when it’s all gone right?

    • Doomsider@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      8 hours ago

      But the black box told us to do it, it is not our fault. This has got to be the dumbest timeline ever, but wait.

      I know. Let’s build a white supremacist black box and then let it give us orders that way we aren’t racist. Oh darn, Muskrat was a step ahead and did that already.

  • teyrnon@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    edit-2
    9 hours ago

    Probublica did a piece on something similar, they just used llm’s to flag words that they considered woke, and in the process cancelled a bunch of grants that had nothing at all to do with what they were targeting. They couldn’t be bothered to actually check the work of the llm.

    Shocking that these fascist clowns aren’t good at governing even for their own ill ends.

    Honestly I don’t think this is the article but idk it’s similar, this is just in regards to veterans affairs. https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-ai-tool-doge-veterans-affairs-contracts-sahil-lavingia

    • [deleted]@piefed.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      6 hours ago

      Probublica did a piece on something similar, they just used llm’s to flag words that they considered woke, and in the process cancelled a bunch of grants that had nothing at all to do with what they were targeting. They couldn’t be bothered to actually check the work of the llm.

      The point was to break things in general while claiming they had specific targeted goals so they could continue the ‘government doesn’t work’ narrative for future budget cuts. Playing the part of a bull in a china shop was the intent and they have already done the damage.

      • teyrnon@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        6 hours ago

        Quite so. Although the real point was to secretly copy all government agency data to Thiel’s secret data banks, and whomever else. Musk was just the front man (clown,) thiel is the brains, and yarvin and their pals.

        All those doge kids were likely recruited from their drug and sex fueled parties, and groomed for betraying america.

    • FauxLiving@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      7 hours ago

      Nobody competent wants to work for these people so they’re left with opportunists who couldn’t find a career otherwise.

      The DOJ can’t hire lawyers, it was previously a prestigious career path where people would accept paycuts for the opportunity.

      It’s a metaphorical clown show. It reminds me of this scene in Chernobyl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idb_qsAAe1c