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Background on the TV show 19 and Counting:
Clearly the genetics are defective. … and the parents.
So is it 20 kids and counting now?
Again?
On brand for the family tradition…
Again? Or is this a different member of the family?
His older brother named Josh.
Not a drag queen, atheist, or librarian?
I am shocked! And GAMBLING is going on in this establishment, also too!
Not a drag queen, atheist, or librarian?
Nope just the spawn of clown car and her dipshit husband.
Noted republican bank roller too. So that tracks with the rest of them.
Is he also a highly performative xtian that thinks this should be a xtian nation? Because that definitely tracks.
What a cool and diminutive way to refer to them! I love it.
It’s always the ones you most suspect
Cabinet appointment incoming
Very qualified to join the Lumpty Trumpty Administration.
What? No Way?!? Another religious/right wing nut is a child molester?!?!
Color me shocked.
Another trump supporter, as usual
And fundamentalist Christian. The show was cancelled after revelations the alleged perpetrator’s brother, Josh Dugar, was accused and then convicted of molesting kids. Seems to run in the family. Community. Whatever the fuck MAGA is.
Just a slight correction the older brother wasn’t convicted of molestation he was convicted on child porn charges, the molestation he did was swept under the rug.
Caution: Disturbing Information
It was just about the worst child pornography in existence, involving horrific torture. One such video in his possession was said by an investigator to be in the top five worst files that he ever had to investigate. Allegedly, it was a video involving the brutal torture and rape of a baby and young girls. One of the girls was later murdered by the creator of the video, and the murder itself was allegedly filmed in a video that he intended to distribute (but did not get to before he was arrested).
Caution: Disturbing Information
For those reading, take this caution VERY seriously. Its so much worse than you think. Seriously, just know is so messed up that anyone seeking that out and keeping it is some kind of monster.
Thank goodness for that
Not just fundamentalist Christian. Christian cultists. The “quiver-full” doctrine is extremist and violent.
Cult. I think that’s the correct word. Death cult, even, given all the bullshit that they’re trying to pull.
Ah, I got confused and thought this was an old story. I didn’t know it was another person from the same show.
I kind of think it’s that woman’s place thing. Either she does a good job of that or all bets are off. It could be just so many kids is basically like running an orphanage of your own kids.
There are a lot of confounding factors, I think. But yeah, the Duggar family was perfectly tuned for breeding sexual predators. There’s a documentary series on Amazon Prime. Shiny Happy People. Season 1 is all about the Duggars and the cult they are members of, IBLP. I haven’t watched season 2 yet.
Yeah. A friend of mine in high school was number 3 or 4 of 10 and she was expected to raise her siblings. Two people can’t give 10 children the attention they need and they just treat raising siblings like it’s a reasonable chore for a child.
Honestly until I read your post, I thought it was the same guy just goes to so more correlation.
Always the ones you most suspect
I am increasingly of the opinion that the first warning sign of a society heading for collapse is when “home schooling” becomes normalised, instead of being prima facie evidence that the kids are being abused and should be immediately taken into care.
prima facie evidence that the kids are being abused
I was in the talented and gifted program in 3rd/4th grades. I also ended up failing 4th grade.
The school board called my parents in for a meeting. They wanted my parents to sign custody of me over to the state until such time as the state released me, i.e. not even when I was 18, but whenever the state decided.
My parents said “Fuck no.”
Nearest private school was too far away to work, so I ended up being homeschooled.
It wasn’t great, I’ll give you that. But it worked well enough such that by the time we gave up on it, halfway through 10th grade, we tested me and I was in 2nd-3rd year college on all subjects except math, where I was at 11.5 grade level.
Then, when I was 30, I finally got my ADHD diagnosis.
Maybe I would have gotten that diagnosis sooner had my parents allowed me to be institutinalized, but I’m really fucking glad they didn’t.
Sure, a lot of people homeschooling their kids are religious nutjobs, but by NO FUCKING MEANS is it “prima facie evidence that the kids are being abused”.
I’m an American immigrant in Germany and the idea that homeschooling is illegal here really used to chafe at me. I get it now though: not everyone who wants to homeschool their kids also wants to make sure no mandatory reporters see evidence of their horrific child abuse, but everyone who wants to make sure no mandatory reporters see evidence of their horrific child abuse also wants to homeschool their kids.
Other interventions for that are either not thorough enough (biannual social worker visits), or much greater an imposition on the parents and way too expensive (biweekly social worker visits). It’s simplest to just make school compulsory, and it values the privacy of the parents over their control of their children. In some small percentage of cases, kids lose out on learning exclusively from very knowledgeable people, but parents can still educate their children outside of school, and way more kids are saved from damaging environments because of compulsory schooling.
Honestly, if I thought most homeschooled kids were “learning … from very knowledgeable people” I might find it less disturbing, but the reality is most of them are learning from religious zealots, conspiracy theorists, or other fruitloops who think going to a proper school will make them catch the gay. It creates a self-perpetuating underclass, and the parents should be locked up for child abuse long before the diddling starts.
FYI, not all homeschooling is religious or weird.
While true, a large proportion of homeschoolers have no business educating anyone, and a large proportion of qualified educators are employed and unable to homeschool.
I don’t doubt that there is a stay-at-home neurobiologist out there somewhere, but out of my patient base I rarely meet any homeschool parents that aren’t confidently incorrect about life.
I agree that it’s the exception more than the rule. But I am someone that homeschooling through high school due to health issues, and I’m now in my 40s doing just fine
Yes, this. Like most things in life: it depends.
See, I was home schooled and actually turned out really good- but my parents did that because we were a 45min drive from the nearest public school with no bus service and it being one of the worst schools on the entire west coast. And it didn’t really count as full home schooling as I learned from a curriculum directly provided and proctored by the county school district, just provided at home through a mix of paper and online courses.
It can work, but unfortunately you can’t trust people to do it right…They’re not all molested. Just most of them.
Pro tip: if you’re on a show called “19 Kids and Counting” and molest a kid, that show name is going to haunt you.
Yeah but when you’re the second child rapist on that show (so far)…
Maybe it was an aspirational title…
Again? Or was this another reality TV celeb with a dozen kids?
Yes, the Duggars have had been involved in similar scandals previously. But no, this is not the same person. The oldest of their kids, Josh, was convicted on multiple counts for possession of CSAM. Apparently some very disturbing stuff, too, including torture and snuff videos. He also molested some of his younger sisters, which was covered up by the family for years while they were on TV.
Apparently, the 2nd in that family so far.
I thought I was going crazy for a minute. I remember distinctly hearing about this arrest years ago. Must’ve been the other one.
But 17 out of 19 haven’t been charged with child sex crimes, yet.
Some of them were the victims. The older brother molested sisters.
I’m certain all of them have been abused in some way. So, there’s 19 kids that suffer the rest of their life from normalized abuse and/or repeat the cycle.
Somehow, the society they live in just looks the other way until the abuse leaks out of their enclave.
Yet
The apple doesn’t fall far from the anus.
