Hey chatgpt how should I feel about this?
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As an aspiring brewer and avid beer geek, I would like to punt whichever subzero IQ dumbfuck decided this was a good idea INTO THE SUN.
We can’t even have a beer judging competition without some techbros and their enablers trying to ram some AI slop down our collective throats. I started to despise the enablers more than the actual AI plonkers. It is painfully obvious that these slop generators don’t work but they still decide to give AI companies access to their users and their data.
Craft beer market is oversaturated and needs less IPAs.
IPAs are the French toast of beer; created solely to cover up the awful taste
I’ve always assumed that. I’m not a brewer but the fact every micro/nano makes like 12 IPAs def has to do with it being cheaper to produce or easier to market it as ‘high quality’ when it isn’t. I used to like IPA 20 years ago, but now it all tastes like hoppy piss water, apart from a few breweries I trust… who also commonly make other styles and are not IPA-only.
but any of my local beer stores like 80% of the selection is IPAs w/ elaborate can art and ‘funky’ names or flavors. i’m also seeing a ton of ‘themed’ breweries… all their beers are named after cats, or sports, or some other thing. and their beer is always awful.
We need a “fuck ipas” comm. They’ve completely choked out any other type of beer: stouts, brown ales, hefeweizen… There’s one mainstream brand of each and that’s it. Then 1000000 IPAs.
I rant about this regularly. It’s really bad where I live.
We need a “fuck ipas” comm. They’ve completely choked out any other type of beer: stouts, brown ales, hefeweizen… There’s one mainstream brand of each and that’s it. Then 1000000 IPAs.
Yeah I’m in New England and it’s insane… every bar/restaurant has like 12-20 IPAs on the menu and 2-3 other beers if you are lucky. I started drinking wine/cocktails a lot more because of this nonsense.
I stopped drinking them years ago. For some reason, all the hops started to make me sneeze so I gave up on them. It’s super annoying when I do want a beer that isn’t a macro brew. A lot of bars just have a shitload of IPAs n maybe 2 other craft beers. I feel like it’s gotten a bit better lately.
I just want a regular ale. Amber, American, whatever the hops should be a note not the only thing I can taste for a bit.
I only ever see standard ales in the fall seasonals. they are out for like 4-6 weeks and gone for another year.
It’s time for the pilsner uprising
Return to cask ale. Embrace tradition.
I used to seek cask taps 10 years ago at bars. they are all gone now.
I have a need for mead.
Bock uprising, ITYM.
The one thing I don’t need from my beer drinking experience is an app. I have never needed an app to tell me what I like with beer. I know what styles I generally like and tasting is part of the experience. I went my local brewery on Friday and tried a sample of their Halloween themed beers. I enjoyed three our of the four and even the one I didn’t enjoy the process was the part. Also the one I didn’t like was exactly what I thought it would be.
Can it be mutual annihilation? Please?
What’s wrong with craft beer? Or do you mean the competition aspect?
It’s flooded the market with terrible “beer” that contain all kind of crap that doesn’t belong in beer.
I mean, there’s definitely some bad, syrupy stuff out there these days. I still much prefer the current amount of selection and creativity from local brewers to the “Coors or Budweiser” way it used to be.
Personally I think local brewers come up with some amazing stuff
Sure, as long as they adhere to the purity lawn.
Are you German? The reason the US has been kicking ass in microbrews is because we don’t have beer purity laws. We can do some crazy shit. I absolutely hate sours. A lot of people enjoy them, I’m not going to complain about them being made. Because there are thirty other breweries in my town. Some breweries keep things tame and you always know what you’re going to get when you go there. Some have weekly small batch releases (those can get crazy) and if you’re adventurous, a fun place to try new things. Those breweries honestly brew for their own pleasure. If people like something, they’re happy but they’re making crazy things to try new profiles to expand the breadth of more mainstream beers.
If your imported beers aren’t available you might look to tariffs over the microbrew scene.
Germans know this is nonsense, they use wheat and fruit in centuries old traditional styles. They had to change the Reinheitsgebot because it originally did not even include yeast
Except import beers disappeared from my market years ago, way before the current tarrifs. Maybe something happened 10-15 years ago with tarrifs that I’m not educated about. I drink a few beers a year at this point. I want something I like, not an adventure in a bottle.
Are these beers no longer made or just not being imported? I’ve not seen many breweries give up on a reasonably popular beer for novelty. They just add to the lineup. Genuine curiosity on this one, if you have the names of any of the beers, I’ll check Untappd to see if it’s available to me.
You should look into how distribution works. It’s very likely that companies doing distribution, which are shockingly also mostly the major beer companies, simply decided to offer less of it or raise prices for it to push retailers and bars toward things they fully own, which is a sizable chunk of the craft beer market available in stores other than the brewery itself.
It’s all really shady nonsense collusion shit, but not really the fault of breweries. Most of them don’t benefit either.
Are you German?
What gave it away?
The reason the US has been kicking ass in microbrews is because we don’t have beer purity laws.
Very much in the same way you kicked traditional pizza’s ass by turning it into pizza pockets, sure.
America’s greatest strength was always how immigrants came here and adapted their traditional cuisines with resources they had at their disposal when they got here. You complain about American beer, but i am sure you have no issues with German curry wurst.
No one in the US confuses pizza pockets for pizza. Pizza pockets are pizza flavored snacks. They took off because we had an entire generation if not generation and a half of latchkey kids who were coming home from school to an empty house.
We did however create Chicago style, New York style, California style and my favorite, Connecticut style pizzas that seem to be enjoyed the world over to my knowledge.
I love the staunch tradition that goes into German and Belgian beers. As well, the tradition in French wines and champagne. The makers and growers should be damned proud of their heritage because they nailed some shit. I think laws protecting or defining them are goofy and have kept tradition at the cost of experimenting. I love to see people in the UK buying backyard smokers and doing Texas style BBQ. I love that Guinness has remained true to itself and popular and don’t care for the Gonster myself but I love that they’re putting it out there. It’s just food. It’s okay to be playful in my opinion.
What (h)gave it away?
The lack of humor, mostly
Most breweries do some fairly standard lagers and ales in addition to their experimental selection. I never got the outrage over this - if you don’t like it then don’t drink it. There’s an entire case filled with basic macrobrew at the grocery store. Nobody is forcing you to drink some blood orange, acorn grist beer finished on gummy worms and marshmallows.
because 90% of the beers in my craft beer store are undrinkable crap. and then the industries whines abotu nobody is buying beer.
well, maybe more of the 10% of beer i want to drink? diversity your offers for quality products instead of another 8% DIPA that tastes like horse farts?
Right, and before craft beer your only option was Bud, Coors and maybe Yuengling or Blue Moon. There was no such thing as a craft beer store or local brewery. The reality is that breweries make these beers because it is what customers buy, and despite that, someone like you still has many more options than you would have had in the early 2000s. Even in terms of the import market, I bet your craft beer store has a bunch of German and Belgian beers you could hardly find in the US before the craft beer boom created more interest in that kind of thing.
before craft brew there were micro brews. i have been drinking that stuff since the late 90s. Back then Sam Adams was ‘craft’ beer.
As a millennial this is pabst erasure
How quickly can we erase Pabst?
But there’s people who love their local brewerys Smoked Seasalt Chocolate Strawberry Mango Liquorice IPA.
I am one of those people, lol. Tastes good, and one can gets me absolutely hammered.
Honestly the reason I often drink IPAs. Sometime I just wanna get buzzes.
I like the fruity ones but sometimes I go for the full grass flavored too.
Fruity/spicy flavors come from yeast or hops and have been brewed for literally ages
Yeah this is such a weird misanthrope hill. Breweries make what customers want, and they almost always have safe offerings available for less adventurous drinkers.
An we shall deal with them soon enough.
…hops don’t belong in beer…??
Only thing I could think your problem could be is like glitter beer, which yeah I think the point was to be silly and they were only around for a very brief period, so seems sillier to complain about all of craft beer over that. Otherwise, what, you don’t like pepper or herb beers? I don’t either, but again I see those so rarely, they’re only a tiny fraction of craft beer.
…hops don’t belong in beer…??
It very much does.
Cool, so then you don’t have a real complaint 🙂
Not about hops. But about all the stuff that doesn’t belong in beer.
Such as? I already addressed glitter and pepper/herb beers, but like I said, these were so niche and fleeting of trends that I can’t imagine that’s your issue.
I agree with this. When I first started drinking I could get a beer and be pretty sure I would like it. Then the micro brews came along and pushed the IPA fad to the extreme. Now the only thing at the store is cheap ass lagers and skunky IPAs. If I wanted my mouth to taste like skunk I would smoke a joint ffs. In the last 20 years nearly all of my favorite imports are either no longer around, are almost impossible to find around me, or have gone up so far in price it’s not worth it. When a local brewery actually makes something I like it’s rare, and generally limited runs.
I can find seasonal brews that are great. But it’s limited selection. Like… the bitter they make once a year for 3 weeks. Or the brown ale, or the dark lager they make in December…
but 12/12 it’s 10 nasty IPAs, a flavorless lager, and some fruited up candy sour/stout. Everytime I find someone really nice… i go back two weeks later to the store and it’s gone forever.
i used to drink 1-2 packs per week, now I do like 2 a month because 90% what’s on the market is nasty and lazy. They put all the effort into weird names and elaborate art on the labels… and very little into the actual beer.
You just have shitty breweries near you, I guess. The ones near me do a variety of pale ales but also lagers, wheat beers, marzen, bock, etc.
The breweries near me only can the 6 IPAs they make. and the one light lager that tastes like piss. They refuse to distribute the non-ipa stuff, so unless I drive two hours to the brewery, I can’t get it. So it might as well not exist.
I can get a ESB, or a wheat beer, or a bock, but only if I go to the brewery and I cant’ get it to take home.
