• theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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    …hops don’t belong in beer…??

    Only thing I could think your problem could be is like glitter beer, which yeah I think the point was to be silly and they were only around for a very brief period, so seems sillier to complain about all of craft beer over that. Otherwise, what, you don’t like pepper or herb beers? I don’t either, but again I see those so rarely, they’re only a tiny fraction of craft beer.

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          Not about hops. But about all the stuff that doesn’t belong in beer.

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            Such as? I already addressed glitter and pepper/herb beers, but like I said, these were so niche and fleeting of trends that I can’t imagine that’s your issue.

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              Beer is made from water, hops, barley and yeast. That’s it. Nothing else.

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                …and wheat (brewed for at least 8,000 years), and rice (brewed for at least 10,000 years). Lambic beers can contain fruits and are even older, literally the oldest style of beer.

                It’s interesting that you’re so quick to complain about these imaginary extra ingredients that don’t belong and yet, you can’t even name them. Hmmmmm.

                EDIT: ooooh and I forgot about corn! Brewed for about 1500 years.

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                Well, the bottom line is you seem quite ignorant about beer in general. The reality is that nearly all craft beer, with the exception of some niche styles, is only made with water, barley (or wheat), hops, and yeast. The other flavors that you’re mistakenly attributing to other ingredients are actually from the type of malt, yeast, or hops.

                Examples:

                • in saison, the yeast create all kinds of fruity and spicy flavors. No fruit or spices are added to the beer
                • in hefeweizen, the yeast actually produce the same exact compounds found in bananas and cloves, giving the beer it’s signature flavor. Which is really cool
                • many IPAs feature flavors from tropical fruits to piney, and all of this comes from the different hops. Azacca is a pretty dramatic example, I’ve had Azacca IPAs that I was shocked contained no actual mango
                • beers brewed with brettanomyces yeast vary wildly in flavor, and can end up tasting like anything from cherry, cigar ash, wet hay, to a “horse barn”
                • chocolately dark beers get that flavor from the extra dark barley malt, no actual chocolate is used

                Most all craft beer is not “new”, with the exception of a small handful of styles, but is repopularizing historical and regional beers, and brews them the traditional way.

                You’re just grumpy about tasting hops and yeast.