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THEY'RE EVOLVING

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THEY'RE EVOLVING

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    • Wasps not bees.
    • The wasps probably won’t be able to emerge if the concrete dust sets.
    • Imagine being entombed by your parents. Born in an inescapable coffin.
    • MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca
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      Born in an inescapable coffin.

      Ah, so real life then.

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        Yes, it certainly bears semblance to my first 9 months in solitary confinement, before the hag dragged me out from her wretched womb. Curse you vile woman!

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          BigDanishGuy, I said no toys at the table.

          • burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de
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            This isn’t a toy, it’s a revolution! proudly waves the vibrator

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      Yeah, never heard them called mud bees. Only ever heard them as dirt / mud daubers, and they’re very obviously wasps.

      They don’t hurt as much as you’d think, but you’ll still feel it for a day or two

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        My grandma used to tell me they don’t sting so I wouldn’t freak out when one was near me. Little kid me was a gullible fool.

        • ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world
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          They can sting, but they (anecdotally) sting less readily than some other species of wasps. I’ve been around them all my life and never have been stung. But, I’ve never intentionally messed with them. On the other hand, I’ve been stung by a couple other species that were far less patient with my presence in their general area.

        • burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de
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          mud daubers usually are as far from aggressive as yellow jackets are assholes.

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          I’m ngl I also been told that and believed it. I don’t really feel very gullible since I’ve never actually been stung by one? Even destroying their nests doesn’t seem to make them aggressive.

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          Lol my dad did the same. I never got stung tho and avoided some anxiety

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      Full of spiders.

      I hate cleaning these up because they’re fucking spider piñatas. Yeah the spiders are dead by then, but just, fucking eww.

      So there are 2 on my porch that desperately need to be cleaned up, anyone?

      • Fuck u/spez@sh.itjust.works
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        Shop vac?

        • _stranger_@lemmy.world
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          You still kinda have to smash them with a mallet.

          • BanMe@lemmy.world
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            Or even grosser melt them with a wet rag :(

            • cheers_queers@lemmy.zip
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              nah fam i will pass

    • I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org
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      Does it come with a cask of good wine?

      • Midnitte@beehaw.org
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    • blubfisch@discuss.tchncs.de
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      You speculated correctly. The brood cannot escape. I even found a scientific paper about it: it: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328054285_A_Fatal_Nest_Construction_Man-mixed_Cement_Used_by_Mud-daubing_Wasps

    • redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Bees are technically a kind of wasp.

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        If I am understanding the chart here correctly, bees are not a type of wasp. Bees, wasps, ants, and sawflies are all Hymenopterans, but distinct from each other.

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          That graph does contain bees among wasps.

          To be specific, bees are a “Cladistically included but traditionally excluded taxa” of wasps, since they are within Apocrita.

          The common-language definition of wasp is literally “A member of Apocrita … except bees (and ants)”.
          It’s the same situation as saying a chicken is a dinosaur, and why the field often uses “non-avian dinosaurs” instead for clarity.

          This wikipedia diagram from the Aculeata article is a bit more concise:

          Take now for example Stephanoidea, “a superfamily of parasitic wasps within the Apocrita”. Clearly wasps, yet equally closely related to yellow-jackets and honey-bees.

          Edit: mixed up Aculeata and Aulacidae. Edit2:

          If you go further into Apoidae, even there you still find plenty more “clearly wasp” type species:

          Take Sphecidae:

          Or Philanthidae:

          All on the same level as actual bees (Anthophila).

          I think also in terms of vibes it feels right to call bees a subset of wasps.

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    Just wait until they build one on the back of a snail.

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      For the people less chronically online than apparently @[email protected] and myself. https://lemmy.ca/post/52674587

    • Hux@lemmy.ml
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      A bee-craft carrier?

      My god…

    • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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      That’s a fun idea for a game. You’re growing a bee colony that has evolved a symbiotic relationship with a species of snail. They feed and defend the snail, while they build the nest on the back.

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        You should check out the game Wandering Village. Its not bees and snails, but you do build a village on a giant beast that you can feed.

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          For a second i thought you mistitled Reus but fair enough its a different game and this concept a new genre.

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      That snail that will kill you on touch just got an upgrade.

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        That reminds me there’s a game called Shadows of Doubt! You are a detective in a dystopian cyber noir world where corporations run everything.

        Anyway they just added a mode to have the damned snail always after you while you’re trying to take on jobs and solve crimes

        • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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          I love this game. I highly recommend it.

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    That’s so cool. A few more hives and you can do dangerous bouldering

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    That’s cool. Mud daubers are extremely chill and will only sting you as an absolutely last resort. They also are great at keeping the spider population down. Which I’m a little torn on because I love spiders since they eat mosquitoes, and mosquitoes can fuck off and die afaic.

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      Wait until you find thier storage area. It will be a rock that you overturn, or maybe a space between two boards filled with paralyzed spiders and other insects … Google it if you dare.

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        I will search that! Sounds cool. Why are there no giant mud dauber horror movies I wonder?

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    Poor bees. That’s got to be hurting them, right? Isn’t concrete caustic?

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      I imagine if it hurt, they would pick some other material.

      They mix it with some material they produce, so it won’t behave like pure cement. Also, after you mix it, concrete isn’t caustic.

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        Good point.

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      Very, cement has a pH of around 11

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    How long do we have till they discover reinforced concrete.

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      7years. Nuclear weapons by 11years.

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        That’s a bit slow for a Factorio run, but impressive nonetheless.

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          Especially since they started with drones unlocked!

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          Hey, I love getting sidetracked!

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        Someone else in the thread just broke the bad news, they’re already there:

        https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/officials-discover-radioactive-wasp-nests-at-facility-that-once-produced-parts-of-nuclear-weapons-in-south-carolina-180987099/

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        Bee AI powered drones in 14 years

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        As covered in the documentary Wax, Or The Discovery Of Television Among The Bees.

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    The bees that live there:

  • Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world
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    It could be worse… radioactive wasps

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    Typical mud wasps, a decade late to the crocs craze.

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    that’s some hardcore Resident Evil shit.

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    Those are wasps, buddy, and it’s going to get worse.

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    if you get too close, they will poke you with tiny bee spears too

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    That’s awesome

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    another bee W

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    Struggling with believing this due to the nature of wet concrete. Maybe there’s not enough water in their saliva to trigger the reactions?

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      I call BS. All their nest here look like this because we have grey clay soil. I’ve actually never seen a brown nest. Doesn’t help their credibility that they call them mud bees. They are the red wasps and I’ve known them as mud daubers.

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        Not knowing the name of a bug is barely evidence of anything, but otherwise I agree. I’ve never seen any kind of wasp nest or even dried mud period that was actually brown and not a whitish, ashy, tan to gray.

        I wanna see video of the nest attempting to be crushed to prove it’s concrete. Actually scratch that. It doesn’t even look like it was made by an insect; it could be concrete but was made by human hands for the bit. The holes are too perfect.

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