I don’t like being so seen.
Needs more BattleBots.
Throwing Discworld into the mix
you don’t need to try so hard, just don’t let him have weird ideas about gender and hope he befriends at least one girl. that’ll be enough. all these idiots need is a female friend going “don’t be an idiot that’s not how things work”.
Or a sister, or any woman who has the standing to tell you “your teeth are blotchy and your breath is bad, that’s why people won’t kiss you, go to the dentist”
I’m not
deadextinct yet!I’m making a note here: Huge success
My son wants to “game” like most other kids at his class. So I got an old laptop, installed linux mint on it with dosbox. He loves lemmings, the incredible machine 2 and rollercoaster tycoon
Gotta get Jill of the Jungle on that bad boy
I fear that he won’t get many friends this way
Mainstream might be boring but it’s an easy way to connect with people
This was the argument I used in high school when I wanted an Xbox 360. My parents were super reluctant given the cost, and then I told them I have nothing to talk about with friends in the hallways and I’m left out of conversations (I was). They reconsidered and eventually folded, and I was very appreciative
I didn’t get many friends the old fashioned way and I turned out fine in the end.
maybe you could have had an even better life had it happened
Omg the Incredible Machine!!! Where can I play it, its been so long!
I think the copyright expired and you can just download it for free, maybe its even on the internet archive. I got mine from abandonware or something like that.
Click a picture of the little guy each and every day to show them later how things were when they were growing up. You can use something like DD-DigitalDiary Otherwise these memories will be lost forever. And it has better privacy than all other google slop
Also i would suggest Audiobooks. Lots o them available for Free. In Youtube or Pitrats software. To learn how to act and live in life
This is what I mean when I say I’m teaching my kids Python
And the music of Weird Al
Don’t forget futurama and star trek
Specifically Star Trek: Elite Force and Futurama (Video Game)
I would add Kids in the Hall.
STOP DOXXING ME!!!
EEEEEERADICATOR!
Hey, not extinct! There are dozens of us
Also don’t forget MST3K and Lord of the Rings!
Its never to early to read The Hobbit to get someone a lifelong addiction to the LoTR. I was trying for in-utero but my wife was not interested.
Cosmos (the original)
Connections with James Burke
Secret Life of Machines
All of David MacAulay’s books
The way things work is one of my favourite books. I still have the copy I got as a kid!
Connections 1 and 2. Maybe not 3.
Yeah, that one wasn’t nearly as good
Lotr is overrated, there i said it
If you want to put a little note saying ‘the movies are overrated’ sure, we can have a debate about that. Fantasy films really aren’t for everyone, and adapting LotR is definitely not an easy task.
If you genuinely mean the books as well, idk what to tell you. The history of the fantasy genre after LotR proves you’re wrong.
I agree. I enjoy it, but I’m not desperate for more. (I feel the same about the original Star Wars as well)
Even if you dislike the story, its impact on the fantasy genre is hard to argue against. I personally dislike the series too, but I refuse to call it overrated because it influences basically every aspect of modern fantasy writing.
Youre very welcome to hold your incorrect opinion but please do not try to ruin other peoples fun. You could also tell us why you have your still very wrong opinion
I don’t need to justify my comment to you. I said what I said and now a bunch of yall are acting like the sistine chapel roof is collapsing. It’s mediocre at best, 12 hours of dudes larping like dorks
Perhaps they also fell asleep during the movies. I certainly know I did.
hey, falling asleep during LOTR is part of the fun
God lotr fans are insufferable.
Says a 40k fan.
At the very least the LotR fandom isn’t infested with Nazi’s that fail to understand the very basic themes of 40k.
A 40k fan dissing LotR fans, who could have predicted?
They’re the same picture, they’re just tsundere for Tolkien-san (we know they’re an anime fan too)
Have to say I agree.
Doesn’t matter, it’s not on the list for quality. It’s an important piece.
BOOOOOOOOO
Life of Brian is arguably better for a ensmuggening Python based education.
Nah, Life of Brian was just decent commentary. Holy Grail was silly in a pointless way that resonated with Nerd Boys in the 2000s.
We grew up to appreciate Life of Brian more but you’re right
Does Holy Grail not resonate with Nerd Boys now?
I’m a Nerd Man now, I can’t say.
Yeah me too. I’m just thinking it over when I can introduce it to my boy. He’s still too young, but probably a couple of years. I think I was like 11
I watched it at 11, spent half the movie thinking that I had half a medieval movie on the VCR tape (👴) because it didn’t make any sense.
At the black knight scene I got the joke and rewatched the whole thing several times a month for a while.
I kinda feel like kids these days are exposed to weird shit earlier than we were. I’d worry less about him being too young and more worried about the psychic damage you’re gonna take when he thinks it’s boring.
I was worried he was going to be like that with Harry Potter. When I started reading it to him he fell in love with it almost right away. I have to cut off the time I spend on it because he’ll just beg me to keep reading all night if I could.
Yeah but fewer people get the references
If they don’t get the references, they’re just casuals.
Really? Maybe I have been missing them my whole life.
Thia feels like the Powerpuff Girls intro, but replace Chemical X with Young Sheldon.
I rewatched Mythbusters recently. It’s pretty disturbing, especially in the early seasons, how often they use actual human remains for what is essentially light entertainment. Like, they’ll destroy an actual human skull for shits and giggles. They had disproved the myth on setting off an airbag with a slim jim and firing it into the head of a would be car jacker, but still had to replicate the results, so just shot a slim jim into an actual human skull, cheering and laughing as it’s decimated. That was an actual person’s skull. How they sourced it, and where the source acquired it, who knows. I’m fairly certain there is a family somewhere though that would be mortified.
I’m fine with that. I mean, bodies aren’t really people anymore. The people part flickers out to nothingness, leaving the meat husk.
I personally don’t give a fuck but yea others might not like it
I would be psyched as hell for my remains to be used on one of the most influential educational science shows of the era (plus like, that is a metal AF use for my skull). IDK, I know I’m not one of those people that venerates remains but even if I was, this seems like a grander memorial and contribution to science than having your remains parted out to then sit for years in a box in a closet, waiting for the physical anthro undergrads to do the “reassemble the original hands from this mixed up pile of phalanges” exercise for the umpteenth time.
The key distinction here is your will. The will of these people is unkown. Their consent is unkown. If you’re looking at the skulls for sale on the bone room for example, they don’t even know the specific age of most of the skulls and are forced to guess within a range. If they don’t even know how old they are how can they know with any certainty the circumstances of their death? Where in the world can you just find an unclaimed skull to sell? What are the chances that these skulls aren’t the skulls of poor people, or otherwise disenfranchised people? It doesn’t take much imagination to draw the conclusion that the ethics surrounding the buying and selling of human skulls, and then destroying them for no other reason than the momentary entertainment of of the global 1% is at the very best a grey area.
I think you have an incredibly romantic view of human death, and I don’t particularly want to disabuse you of that. So in that spirit, I will spare you the full gory details of what happens to donated human remains / medical cadavers.
Full Disclosure: In my personal collection I own a number of human bones (most but decidedly not all) given to me by the friend who’s bones they were. I use the fingers as a fidget toy sometimes. Also, the persecution of cannibalism is one of the great crimes of the western world. I include these to
amusecharacterize myself and, hopefully by extension, my explanations below.To answer your questions:
If they don’t even know how old they are
The reason stores like The Bone Room do not have personal or demographic information on the remains they sell is because medical cadavers are anonymized. The Bone Room respects that, even in cases where they have purchased bones with a known provenance, and the topic is extremely complex. In short however, this means that the morality of the remains being sold is almost entirely dependent on the reputability of the person selling the remains, and retailers are comprehensively vetted and monitored because of this (there are obviously exceptions, but they are immensely rare).
[...] how can they know with any certainty the circumstances of their death?
It is extremely rare for educational remains to be initially sold as parts (though there are of course examples where it did happen). In the wild and vast majority of cases, an individual bone is the result of donated remains being reduced over time through repeated dissections to the point that only the bones are left. Because of this, it is safe to say that medical cadavers are the most exhaustively inspected remains on the planet, and signs of foul play would undoubtedly be noticed (there are quite a few examples of this).
Where in the world can you just find an unclaimed skull to sell?
China and India were the sources of most modern medical remains, though both countries have stopped the export of human remains. While yes, I cannot deny that there were instances where questionable methods were used to obtain the remains (the term is ‘anatomy murder’), I only know of two specific examples off the top of my head. The first is the Burke/Hare murders, which were committed during the early 1800s, and the second is the very famous Body Worlds exhibit (and hoo boy is that horrifying). Both of these were the impetus for sweeping global legislation to prevent similar situations, and Body Worlds is the primary reason China stopped exporting medical cadavers (because, and I am being uncharitable, it is hard to credibly deny your crimes against political prisoners when you ship the bodies of said prisoners to western countries with bullet holes in their skulls).
What are the chances that these skulls aren’t the skulls of poor people [...] ?
Aside from cadavers sourced from india and china (which again are no longer allowing the export of educational corpses), the remaining remains on the market come from legitimate pre-mortis consent given by the former owner of the parts in question. There are many, many examples of this - leaving your body to medicine/science is quite common in the US, and is an absolutely vital part of our medical infrastructure, and is generally considered a very noble choice to make. It is important to explain here that medical cadavers in the US are shown a degree of respect that can quite accurately be described as veneration, and disrespect of donated remains is emphatically not tolerated. And while US-sourced medical remains are rare to see sold outside of a medical context (US law is extremely strict on this matter), it does happen. I urge you to consider why you think this would not happen in other cultures, or why they would not have similar attitudes towards body donation and donated bodies.
A specific example of a non-western attitude towards funeral practices (and oh boy is that a complex topic) would be memorial Japmala beads - a Nepalese tradition whereby Japmala (kinda like a rosary but for asian-originating religions) are made from bones donated to the temple by a (usually devout) person and are thence sold to raise funds. While done with consent, remains sourced from this practice are not infrequently sold for medical use on the condition that when the bodies are reduced to bones, they be returned to the temple. If some are removed, or missing (say, because they are a good example of some condition), or they were destroyed as part of their work, this isn’t objectionable - so long as the remains are treated with respect, it’s seen as benefiting the community as a whole.
This does not specifically translate in this case, but I’ve included it as an example of ethical sourcing of remains that really does not gel with traditional western views on the subject.
And two brief points:
It doesn’t take much imagination to draw the conclusion that the ethics surrounding the buying and selling of human skulls [...] ?
I can imagine a great many awful things, but that does not mean they are happening. This specific argument has really irritated me, in a way that I strongly suspect is unfair.
[...] than the momentary entertainment of of the global 1% [...]
Mythbusters began almost a quarter century ago, and has had an outsized impact on science literacy and education. I think it’s unfair to characterize this as mere passing entertainment for the global 1% (and additionally it totally ignores the US’ cultural hegemony). Although certainly not a traditional use of human remains, the fact that we are still having a discussion about the topic twenty years later as a result of the episode could easily be argued to be a sign of the great impact the show has had on culture in general and thus tautologically justifies its own existence.
Alright, hopefully that was less tiring to read than it was to write.
I agree with you in general but cannibalism is actually bad because prion disease. Not eating other people makes sense for simply health reasons.
I mean I still think if everyone involved consents it should be allowed, but there’s a good reason we don’t like it as a society.
That sure is the conventional wisdom, isn’t it?
In truth there’s only ever been one example of Prion disease transmission through cannibalism in humans - Kuru - a disease present in one incredibly tiny population (the Fore) in Paupa New Guinea, once. Incidentally, it was essentially only transmissible if you consumed the brain (or spine) of an infected person, which was the part reserved for young children / pregnant women. Stopping the practice of eating the brain would have effectively eliminated the disease, and conveniently the australian colonial government and local christian missionaries had recently outlawed funerary cannibalism. I’m sure that, by their reputation for extreme tolerance and cultural sensitivity, they would never exaggerate the dangers of cannibalism to back up their claims.
Anyways, no new cases of Kuru have occurred since the Fore stopped practicing funerary cannibalism (voluntarily, once someone stopped just beating them and took the time to explain what was happening) and the disease has essentially been eradicated. So, though it’s probably best not to eat another member of your species without checking to make sure they don’t have parasites (and hypothetically Creutzfeldt–Jakob’s disease. Although there’s never been a case of it being transmitted via cannibalism, that’s simply because it’s vanishingly extreme rarity means it’s likely never had a chance to happen), there’s no particular harm that’s going to happen because of it.
It’s almost like prion disease is rare. If you can get vCJD from eating meat of a cow that had BSE, you can very likely also get it from eating a human that had vCJD. Particularly given that it is proven to be transmissable via blood transfusion. And that cows can get BSE from eating other cows. BSE outbreaks are also pretty much the only instance in which we actually have enough data on cannibalism and the potential of disease spread.
The reason we don’t have many cases is that we don’t eat people and that the diseases that you’re likely to contract from doing so that don’t die from cooking are very rare. Add to that that even cultures that do consume human meat generally only do so to a very limited degree (and often from people that died violently rather than disease or old age), and of course not much has been recorded.
Since prions can occur spontaneously, it is very possible that a culture of frequently consuming human meat indiscriminately could even eventually lead to some new prion disease spreading which happens to transmit via meat consumption at an above average rate.
I think I said most of that already, I’m sorry I’m not quite sure what your point is. The risk of getting a prion disease is already extremely low, and even within that the majority of CJD infections are spontaneous. That’s sure the consensus in the literature, fwiw. An above average transmission rate would therefore be spectacularly unspectacular, given how few new cases would be needed to achieve that.
I don’t think it’s an “incredibly romantic” position to wonder if it’s disrespectful or scientifically necessary to wrap a human skull in pig skin and then punch it with a robotic fist until it collapses for television.
Nnnno, you can hold that position independent of your feelings towards death. I am curious why you think it’s unnecessary to do that, though. It’s (relatively) common to use human remains for destructive testing in all manner of experiments. Is the problem that they’re filming it instead of publishing the skull fracture patterns of knapped stone clubs in the journal of archeology? This really isn’t any worse than, say, seeing how long it takes for human remains to fully liquefy when sealed in plastic and subjected to various conditions (more importantly, the rate at which organs decay while submerged in that soup). Is it worse than melting regions of a body with acid to test a theoretical new skin-grafting technique? Flaying their skin and muscles from the bone then macerating it to a homogeneous mixture to test for microplastic distribution rates in the 35-40 Indonesian Female demographic? Anything that happens to remains on a body farm? Those are all real examples. Thinking what they did is somehow worse than what bodies normally go through, that’s the romantic view of death I was referring to.
Is the problem that they’re filming it instead of publishing the skull fracture patterns of knapped stone clubs in the journal of archeology?
The problem is that “what happens when a superhuman being with a ring on punches you in the forehead” isn’t exactly an important question to answer.
This really isn’t any worse than, say, seeing how long it takes for human remains to fully liquefy when sealed in plastic and subjected to various conditions (more importantly, the rate at which organs decay while submerged in that soup). Is it worse than melting regions of a body with acid to test a theoretical new skin-grafting technique? Flaying their skin and muscles from the bone then macerating it to a homogeneous mixture to test for microplastic distribution rates in the 35-40 Indonesian Female demographic?
Again, yes. As it is not for science, it is for entertainment. Adam and Jamie are not scientists, they are special effects artists. And they are not conducting experiments, they are staging entertainment. They are not in a lab, they are in a special effects warehouse. They are not publishing their findings to Nature, they are editing them for a television audience. Mythbusters is not hard science, it is science themed entertainment. Which is fine. But these skulls belonged to real people and there is a power dynamic involved in where they come from, and who buys them, and what they’re used for.
You can’t see the applicability in investigating the creation of surface indications of handheld objects on skin being subjected to various degrees of force, or demonstrating a method of investigating that question to the general television viewing public? Not even being slightly sarcastic or insincere here, I’m very curious what qualities qualify something as being ‘science’ to you. Not being in a lab excludes archaeology, and not publishing your findings to Nature excludes
methe unfathomably vast majority of scientists from counting as ‘scientists’.
Maybe, in the far future, I elected to have my skull sent back in time for that purpose.
Because I totally would.
Oh yeah, totally! When I die, if the mythbusters need my corpse to test a myth, they’re welcome to it! If I could, I’d choose the “cleaning the decaying corpse smell out of a car” myth; remembered forever as an unforgettable stench. Or one of the giant explosions, so I could rest in pieces.
Jamie personally sourced it. That’s all you need to know.
Do they say they’re actual human remains? They make realistic facsimiles specifically for testing things like they test.
They do. They even go to a specific shop in one of the episodes: The Bone Room.
The Bone Room was famous - within its niche - around the world. Featured on Mythbusters, as well as having several appearances on local news magazines, written up in articles in local and nationwide publications, and listed in guidebooks, The Bone Room was a destination for travelers and one of the must-see places for locals to bring their visiting friends and relatives.
“Meemaw, I’m so glad you came to see me! …wanna go see some human remains?”
