Donald Trump ripped into Iran and Israel for violating a ceasefire deal within hours of his triumphant announcement.

“You basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don’t know what the f— they’re doing! Do you understand that?” he told reporters Tuesday morning on his way to the NATO summit in The Hague.

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    Muslims and Jews have been fighting each other for nearly 3000 years.

    If anyone thinks they’re going to be the one person who can stop that conflict, they’re absolutely delusional.

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    The odds of us experiencing a loser of this caliber again in our lifetimes is pretty slim.

    Interestingly enough, the odds of me ever having a shred of respect for this country again in our lifetimes is also pretty slim.

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    Didn’t they settle everything in the middle east under his first term? The Saudis sent Trump’s inept, unqualified, security risk son in law nepotism hire Jared Kushner billions to manage afterward to get rich from to celebrate the long lasting peace they negotiated /s

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    Not that I don’t like to see him miserable but if saying fuck counts as a meltdown, I meltdown every time I speak. Honestly, its not even a signifier of stress, its more likely to signal your being genuine

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      Context matters. Someone using profanity more often than they otherwise would in the same context is generally a signifier of stress or excitement.

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      How many times can you recall a president cursing when talking to reporters? Even Trump doesn’t curse much in his tweets or press briefings. So it’s definitely notable.

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        It’s one of those things. When you can’t find a better way to express your frustration as an educated person than resorting to dropping f-bombs, it is indicative of a low vocabulary.

        Anyone else with a basic high-school education thrust into the spotlight would find a way to express themselves and their thought in a clear and cohesive way.

        But they are obviously the ones who don’t know what the fuck they’re doing.

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          There was a time when I would’ve agreed with you. I still endeavour to this day to avoid profanity.

          Today, however, I don’t agree that using “fuck” is at all an indicator of a low vocabulary (except in the case of overuse, but that’s true of any word). There are emotions that civil people aren’t supposed to feel, so we need words that we aren’t supposed to use to express them.

          Fuck can be used to great effect, and should be.

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          Yea. Its not that he used the word “fuck”. It is in the context of working with Netanyahu, then seeing that Netanyahu has no real respect for Trump or the US military as long as they support his wars. So Trump gets flustered realizing his Israeli buddy has no respect for the US and then says “fuck”. It just hows Trump has no international relations abilities and he doesn’t know what is going on.

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      For fucks sake, me too.

      (I apologise for the above meltdown)

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      His obsession with the Nobel peace price is really what’s driving all this. He’s been willing to do deals nobody else would make just to get that recognition, and it’s ironically inflaming more conflict.

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        His obsession with the Nobel peace price is really what’s driving all this

        Nah, it’s much more simple than even that: he’s just a malignant narcissist and a colossal idiot who happens to have a talent for grifting*. Everything he’s ever done has been because of that combo.

        *ETA: as well as the wealth and connections to play life on story mode from day one, of course

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        If he wanted a Nobel peace prize he should have just committed genocide. That’s what most of the others did.

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              To be fair, geopolitics is complicated. Ever seen The Good Place? I suspect it’s pretty difficult to stay totally uninvolved in war crimes as a major world leader. The Doug Forcetts of geopolitics don’t do much evil, but they don’t do enough good to get peace prizes either.

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        I would think truly being a mediator would require not playing both sides of the negotiating table for your own ego inflation, but I’m no global affairs expert

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          This is why he’s in the white house and we’re not /s

          you know you’re not supposed to tell me you’re playing both sides right?

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      Only those not living under a rock for the past 50 years

      Or those not being all coked up for the past 50 years

      Or those not busy with Epstein kids

      Or those…

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    Someone should probably explain to this moron that a tweet saying, “We’ll stop bombing them if they stop bombing us” doesn’t count as a “ceasefire deal”.

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    At some point even he has to realize that he’s a joke right?

    Like even his syphillitic brain can’t not see what’s right in front of him forever, can it?

    To other world leader’s he’s a joke. Someone who they can stroke his ego to get whatever they want, and then ignore him entirely and do whatever they feel like anyway.

    “Israel…don’t drop those bombs” Israel had no intention of listening to him. Russia had no intention of listening to him. They make his sense of self importance skyrocket and so they say whatever they need to say to get him to do whatever THEY want him to do, and then don’t listen to him the rest of the time.

    Is he really this fucking stupid?

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      This is how you tell me that you haven’t been raised by narcissists without telling me that you haven’t been raised by narcissists.

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      At some point even he has to realize that he’s a joke right?

      Nah. Narcissism is a hell of a drug.

      Is he really this fucking stupid?

      Yes. Trump definitively answered the question of whether a complete, total, utter, absolute, unconditional moron can fail upwards and be fabulously wealthy.

      This is what generational wealth in an ultra-capitalist society with a different justice system for the wealthy can produce. A monster. A stupid fucking monster.

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          Hope isn’t the right word for me. But I would very deeply enjoy Trump swinging from a noose of his own make.

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        Heh he’ll get replaced quickly, and a new cult leader will rise. I wonder who it’ll be. Vance and trumps family aren’t popular, neither is Musk. But then again, in a dictatorship popularity isn’t important.

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          He’s the one that cultivated the cult of personality. Some have tried to use it, but trump still has the final say on everything. I imagine if Trump disappeared, the base would fracture.

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            Fracture to where?

            We already know conservatives are literally incapable of voting for anyone that doesn’t have an “R” next to their names. They may not worship the next one the way they worship Daddy Trump, but they’ll all 100% vote for whoever it is.

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              Fracture to irreverence where the component pieces eat each other. There is no future for the party after Trump except as various fringe groups claiming to be the “true” party.

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          Oh, no, they’ll devolve into infighting. There won’t be enough shared ideals and actions to sustain Republicans as a political force. There will be fringe groups that linger on for a while. After almost three centuries, there are still two people left claiming the Shaker tradition; that’s a group that forbids sexual relations even for procreation, so you can see how they’d have trouble gaining new members. But they’re not a religious group that anyone really cares about, either. That’s how MAGA will go eventually.

          See also, Knitting Cat Lady, who is a former member of the Children of God cult, then the US Army, and then got a masters in organizational psychology around cults.

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          My copium is that to me it looks like it’s not the party’s cult, it’s Trump’s cult, and it will collapse without him at the helm.

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            Lol. I’ve been experiencing the conservative cult for far too long to believe this.

            There will be another one and conservatives will flock to him. And now that the bar is permanently and extremely lowered by Trump, you can expect him to be pretty fucking bad.

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              You’ve been experiencing a cult of an idea. The Republican party has transformed into a cult of personality with no clear successor.

              There are cults of personality that have successfully transformed into a cult of ideas. Mormons and Scientology are examples. However, in each case, the person at the center fostered a clear successor, and that successor was able to make it last in the long run by centering around ideas. Scientology still has that successor around (David Miscavige), but there isn’t really a specific person in charge of the LDS. Not in the same way. Their leadership is now interchangeable, but replacing their ideas is a harder sell.

              Trump has no successor, and isn’t interested in fostering one. It’s not JD Vance; nobody respects him, including Trump. It’s not Musk; he made the mistake of trying to be more popular than the boss, and he’s not a natural-born citizen, anyway. It’s not Peter Thiel; he prefers to be the power behind the throne. It’s not any of Trump’s adult children; they’re nothing but spoiled rich kids. It’s not any of the people in his cabinet; they’re all plebes using booze and cocaine to get through the day. It’s not Tucker or Matt Walsh or any of the other right-wing commentators; they’d just eat each other trying to get on top.

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          Yeah, to anyone that may be new to all this, I promise you and will bet my life savings on it, that conservatives will memory-hole Trump after he’s gone and be 100% onboard with the next criminal dunce the Republican party shits out.

          I watched them do it with Bush Jr. We know how stupid conservatives are. That isn’t changing anytime soon. They have not, nor will they ever, learn anything.

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          In a dictatorship, the rise to power is extremely dependent on being popular. Once established though, not so much. I’m guessing JD Vance, Musk, or some other Trump family member would not have sufficient following and the whole thing would topple over, as is fairly common after dear leader dies.

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        Oh I never knew that had a name.

        I love doing that to pathological narcissists, whenever safe.

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      But he asked them so nicely to not violate the ceasefire on his social media site! He said they’d only do a “Plane Wave”!

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        It is so weak that he expects the world to read his xitter as a news source and that he has to sign it to affirm that he is in fact (in all caps) THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. Also where the heck is my thank you for my attention to this matter. Such an utter buffoon.

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      At some point even he has to realize that he’s a joke right?

      Like even his syphillitic brain can’t not see what’s right in front of him forever, can it?

      Is he really this fucking stupid?

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      You fail to understand how narcissism works. He’s literally incapable of believing anything negative about himself.

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        I wish I was that way honestly. I almost can’t believe anything positive about myself.

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      The problem is everyone else clearly. If only they just listen to him everything would be fine. Why is everyone so stupid!!? Why is no one listening to big brain??!

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      It’s a word. I’m getting broken down by the amount of censorship on the internet, particularly Youtube. Their guidelines only state to withhold any uncensored cursing or content deemed only suitable for mature audiences for the first fifteen seconds, to avoid being tagged as mature and the video viewcount and profit largely reduced. A very small price to pay for freedom of human expression and life. But channels take this much further than the relatively mild corporation’s rules, such as:

      • Censoring or obscuring all expletives deemed by Christianity to be foul
      • Censoring or obscuring all words describing a sensitive subject (e.g. rape, sex, sexual, abuse, murder, suicide, kill)
      • Censoring any moment in which a being is subject to any form of impact, whether accidental, assault or police abuse

      These actively block and suppress conversing about real issues, leading to more harm, more assault, and more silent victims. Every time the word suicide is censored signifies to me that another person has committed suicide because they weren’t heard. This has been proven to be correlation.

      Censorship of human life, experience and expression not only insults my personal ideals of life and freedom, but actually causes more harm, and I cannot forgive that.

      What makes swear words so offensive? It’s not their meaning or even their sound. Is language itself a red herring here?

      Being Silenced: The Impact of Negative Social Reactions on the Disclosure of Rape

      Censorship of words like ‘rape’ and ‘sexual assault’ on social media hurts victims more than it stops bad actors

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        Channels aren’t doing that because they want to. YouTube has a lot of rules, some of which are written down. They do it because YouTube has flagged them in the past for demonetization on the issue, and they can’t afford to do that too many times. It can also impact your ability to do livestreams.

        It’s on top of a pile of issues that’s making YouTube content creation non-viable for everyone.

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          It’s a bigger issue of so few platforms for people to use and reach an audience.

          But it all comes down to corporations are causing people to unnecessarily censor themselves. It’s a weird thing where corporations have a power they shouldn’t to control what people are saying.

          I somewhat understand content creators who make money. But I don’t understand the people who comment and don’t make money off of it censoring themselves so a company can make more ad revenue.

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        This is why I love Any Austin. Whenever he says “fuck”, he puts a bleep somewhere around that time, sometimes a couple of seconds off.

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      I’ll be honest, I don’t mind swearing on social media as I’m an adult but I don’t think there’s any need to swear in the news media.

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    WE understand that. Someone deluded themselves into thinking that a couple bombs would magically produce peace. This is not a Harry Potter movie, so Explosio Nocturna did not work.

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      We have the biggest bombs, the best bombs. Everybody says we have the most powerful, beautiful, you know they can’t make them in other countries these other places they don’t even have water. Can you believe that? Imagine that no water but bombs, they make bombs. So we send our biggest and best, the most powerful military in the world, and they say oh no Mr President oh Mr Trump won’t you please please not send the bombs but that’s what it is folks. No water. And they’re begging me, every day they’re sending someone to beg at my feet for a ceasefire and I say ok! No more shooting. And that’s how it works folks.

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      I don’t know… When I was a teenager, Hermione made me Explosio Nocturna.

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    “You basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don’t know what the f— they’re doing! Do you understand that?” he told reporters Tuesday morning on his way to the NATO summit in The Hague.

    Everybody has understood that for decades.

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      And now Trump has understood it for half a day. Being the way he is, this is a “Nobody knew…” moment.