• hamsda@lemm.ee
    13·
    1 day ago

    vim was such an unimaginable improvement over nano for doing stuff on linux servers. Having an in-shell-editor search-and-replace function alone is worth everything you have to do to learn vim.

    And after I was comfortable around vim because of all the “training” on servers, I just switched to vim fulltime. No more GUI editor for me!

      • hamsda@lemm.ee
        4·
        22 hours ago

        Ha, that would’ve helped me a few times. Good to know!

        Still, I wouldn’t switch vim for nano ever again. nano is a good and easy start, but I think if you do more than just basic editing of a few files every now and then, learning vim is the way to go.

        vim is pretty customizable, widespread and it has been around for quite some time after all. If you think you need it, somebody most likely already made it as a vim-plugin :)

  • fusiono@feddit.uk
    11·
    1 day ago

    You will be tempted to think that by learning how to use (neo)VIM your coding skills will magically improve tenfold.

    It won’t

    • moseschrute@lemmy.world
      8·
      23 hours ago

      Wait really? Shit I’m like 1 year into learning vim. What editor should I switch to that will magically make me a good coder?

      • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
        2·
        21 hours ago

        Jokes aside, all of my favorite IDEs have an option to use VIM key bindings so learning VIM makes it easier to learn other IDEs.

        That alone was enough to convince me to learn VIM

  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
    621·
    2 days ago

    The best thing about Vim is that despite having all the features of a modern IDE it starts in 0.1s and you can start editing right away while the code data is loading asynchronously.

    The worst thing about Vim is that… just kidding, there’s nothing bad about it.

    • andros_rex@lemmy.world
      7·
      1 day ago

      People meme about “q!” but it is super helpful to have that extra step, because sometimes your fingers are moving faster than your brain is. That quick switch back-n-forth vim - gcc - ./a.out loop and my probably ADHD mean that vim saying, “hey, remember you haven’t saved this yet” is a godsend.

      You are right about the best part about vim - you can work as fast you type.

    • yeehaw@lemmy.ca
      23·
      1 day ago

      Vscode I’m always like all right let’s code… Ah shit, the “what’s new” window has popped up again in the middle of my typing…

      • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
        3·
        1 day ago

        Also had to update virtually every time I touched it and half the time those updates would break it so I had to reinstall. I didn’t use it on a daily basis or anything and it’s been a few years so maybe they fixed that but it’s why I don’t currently use it (along with the fact that it’s a microsoft product and I’m trying to stay away from all their shit as much as possible).

    • silverlose@lemm.eeEnglish
      7·
      1 day ago

      It’s a trade off for sure. I think the area editors like Vim totally win in is when you need to ssh into a server and edit something. I think it will always exist because of this use case

      • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        1 day ago

        I can ssh in with Krusader and edit from Krusader’s GUI editor. I would probably still do it from the terminal because it’s faster, but it’s good to have more than one way to do things.

    • stetech@lemmy.world
      5·
      1 day ago

      Helix is “it just works” but it actually does, without having to get lost in the (config) sauce.

      It’ll be unstoppable once they finalize and ship the plugin system.

      Edit: and I haven’t even mentioned the descriptions above commands, the command palette-like functionality in <Space-?>, nor the tutor yet. It’s just so much more beginner-friendly.

      • sanderium@lemmy.zipEnglish
        2·
        23 hours ago

        Yeah, so many things are so easy to configure with less moving parts, plus the window splitting is amazing.

    • LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.eeEnglish
      6·
      2 days ago

      Knowing how to actually navigate vim is worth learning. Especially if you work in embedded systems where a lot of the time you’re on setup that is running barebones and likely just has vi as a text editor.

      But I used VSCode for dev work with the VIM plugin.

    • cmhe@lemmy.world
      6·
      1 day ago

      When the debate revolved around Emacs vs. Vim, I used Spacemacs. It seem we moved on from that?

      Is it now about VScode vs. (Neo)Vim?

      Guess that means Vim won the Emacs vs. Vim debate then, when it got into the next round.

      • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.comEnglish
        4·
        1 day ago

        It’s VIM features and key bindings that you can toggle on and off with a hotkey in VScode.

        Very handy when you have a task that VIM is better at (for your workflow), like recording s macro and replaying 100 times.

    • frezik@midwest.social
      1·
      1 day ago

      This is alright if you only know the basics of vim and then learn further from within that environment. If you’re already an intermediate to advanced user, then the keybindings between VSCode and Vim tend to interfere with each other. You’ll have to relearn how to do it.

  • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
    531·
    2 days ago

    I remapped the power button of my computer to whatever that series of keypresses is that exits vim.

    • pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip
      10·
      2 days ago

      That’s really smart. That way if I ever figure out the command to exit Vim, it’ll behave the same as my current method (powering off the PC.)

    • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      42·
      2 days ago

      that series of keypresses is that exits vim

      One of the great mysteries of the universe. However, I can confirm that my standard power button also exits vim.

  • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee
    20·
    2 days ago

    HAHAHAHA I know the secret passcode to escape!

    Incidentally, it’s ctrl+]. But I remap it to ‘kj’, and somehow have never typed ‘blackjack’ in all my years of using Vim!

    • Peck@lemmy.world
      7·
      1 day ago

      So kind of off topic. Like 15 years ago emacs vs vim split in engineering was like 50-50. Now I see more like like 90-10 with vim winning. What happened? I always assumed they are equivalent more or less.

      • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        1 day ago

        Emacs has scripts that can do almost anything. If you wanted to, you could pretty much replace your graphical desktop with Emacs and still do pretty much everything you do. vi is an editor.

      • WalnutLum@lemmy.ml
        2·
        1 day ago

        There’s been a lot more evangelism about emacs lately.

        Also the fact emacs has doom and spacemacs to ease new users in while vim drops you into : and tells you to swim means that it’s easier for emacs to get new users.

    • Tuxman@sh.itjust.works
      9·
      2 days ago

      Ah! I loved using Doom EMacs for a while!

      … but alas I came back to my initial love with Neovim 😜

    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
      4·
      2 days ago

      Yeah, this is the best solution at the end of the day for most would be text wizards, emacs is beautiful, vim keybindings are beautiful.

  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.worldEnglish
    181·
    2 days ago

    I used to know a developer who wrote all his code in Notepad. This was around 2005 or 6. We had just starting to replace our legacy ASP code with ASP.Net, which he was determined to do in Notepad. I was gone before I could see how that worked out.