cross-posted from: https://lemmy.librarysocialism.social/post/61306

The US Senate on Monday voted in bipartisan fashion to advance a fossil fuel industry-backed permitting reform bill that would weaken the Clean Water Act and other key environmental protections to make it easier for the federal government to streamline energy projects—including climate-wrecking gas pipelines.

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    Vote em out:

    Blumenthal (D-CT) Coons (D-DE) Cortez Masto (D-NV) Fetterman (D-PA) Gallego (D-AZ) Gillibrand (D-NY) Heinrich (D-NM) Hickenlooper (D-CO) Kim (D-NJ) King (I-ME) Klobuchar (D-MN) Ossoff (D-GA) Peters (D-MI) Reed (D-RI) Rosen (D-NV) Schatz (D-HI) Schumer (D-NY) Shaheen (D-NH) Slotkin (D-MI) Warner (D-VA) Warnock (D-GA) Whitehouse (D-RI)

    But don’t lump shitty neoliberals in with “democrats” like others agree with them

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      The least we can do is force them to compete in a primary, and they can always choose to run independent if they don’t like it.

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      Klobuchar (D-MN)

      I was intrigued the other day after the midterms by a comment that pointed out that the Minnesota democrats are actually a different party than the national Democratic party. (Yikes, capitalization feels very important in that sentence!)

      So I was reading about the DFL and how they were supposed to be the more progressive wing of the people that form the collective of the Democratic Party. But then I saw that Klobuchar is their highest office holding member. I got very confused how she is the face of progressive Democrats. To be fair, all I’ve really seen or heard of her is what she said or was said about her when she was in the presidential primaries, but I wasn’t sold on her based on that.

      Other than that, apologies once more from PA for Fetterman. Still better than Oz, but still the worst Democrat in the senate… 😖

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        She is a terrible face of it. She’s lucked out because of that last point you made - she flies under the radar.

        2006 she succeeded Mark Dayton (yes, of Dayton’s. Interesting fellow).

        In 2012 she won in a landslide, but I don’t remember her being particularly popular.

        2018 people were pretty damn low morale, so she didn’t face a good primary challenge.

        2024, the focus was all on Trump, she just stood against Trump with experience as a prosecutor, ez pz.

        For this Governor run, it was pretty much name recognition after Walz pulled his name.

        At least Minnesota has a chance to replace her senate position with someone more progressive.

        Edit: and she has a history of supporting terrible legislation that had great sounding names (like this) but furthered an opposite agenda.

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          At least Minnesota has a chance to replace her senate position with someone more progressive.

          I hope so, but it’s far from a sure bet.

          I fully agree with you about her and think we can do better, and she’s had quite a bit of luck, but there’s more than that.

          Historically she’s been very popular in outstate MN for reasons I don’t fully understand but I’d be very curious about the percentage of business owners in rural MN (and people who think they’re business owners like victims of MLMs). In the polarized MAGA era that effect has declined significantly and she only outperformed down ballot Dems by a few percent. I’m not sure that matters anymore though.

          Sadly, she’s indicated she’ll be picking her own replacement. It’ll probably be Angie Craig (ugh) but the MPR article I pulled up to check mentions that she could totally pick a “big city mayor” and Klob has the chance to do the funniest thing ever - Mayor Frey gets to be a weasel on the national stage for a bit only to get primaried out of politics entirely while Minneapolis can get anyone else as mayor.

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            I guess whoever she picks is only temporary anyway, looks like theres a special election in 2027.

            Do better Minnesota.

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          Thanks for the quick run-down! Finding candidates anywhere to actually get excited for seems a sadly alien concept.

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      Goddammit, Ossoff.

      (by the way if you put a backslash at the end of your lines they will do a line break without a double space. Like this\ I’ll show you
      See?)

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      Ossoff surprises me a LITTLE bit. I didn’t think he was a progressive but it seemed like he was trying to ride the wave. same with Warnock.

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        Dude read a history book about Neville Chamberlain and said “This is who I aspire to be”.

        Peters fucking sucks and I hope he lives in poverty for the rest of his life. That’s the nicest thing I have to say about him.

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        Because Jamie Harrison was the DNC chair during the last vote for Congressional leadership…

        Neoliberals lost the DNC like a month after that. The VF they used as a club to get Schumer/Jeffries leadership is gone. That’s the entire reason people started criticizing them openly, they’re toothless

        The VF moneywas given back to state parties that it was stolen from, and the reason there was a blue wave.

        You don’t have to trust this DNC wont use the same club, because the fucking club doesn’t exist. They couldn’t influence the next leadership vote if they wanted to.

        If Schumer and/or Jeffries get it again in January, than yeah, you got a point.

        Until that vote spend your time reaching out to the incoming Congress and telling them to go with progressive leadership in 2027

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          Because Jamie Harrison was the DNC chair during the last vote for Congressional leadership…

          The DNC chair does not choose who the Senate or House leader is. That is done by a simple majority vote by both chambers.

          Neo libs definitely still have a ton of institutional power in the party. Just look at the amount of center right Dems currently sitting in an important committee chair. That’s really how power is doled out by the party leadership, and it’s strengthened by the fact that the full house or Senate votes to approve appointments put forward by the RNC or DNC leadership apparatus.

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            The massive war chest that Jefferies controlled did in fact give him the power to choose the House and Senate leaders on the Democrat side.

            That war chest is gone.

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      It sucks that a lot of them are on their way out, but somewhat expected because this is how democrats have helped pass bullshit in the past. Also dissapointed to see freshly elected democrats (like Ossof) vote for this, though I’m not familiar with most of their track record on this type of stuff.

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        Ossof is a conservative Democrat that is somewhat adept at co-opting a shaved down language of left wing economic populism(while functionally upholding the class interests of donors and the party status quo aligned with them). So he is good at tricking Dem party loyalists and pundit-brain rotted progressives into thinking he’s the next Obama.

        Hence why he is also currently circulating as the new hot 2028 candidate from the Dem pundit and consultant mouthpieces in the media.

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          That is the smell I get from him as well. I have found myself liking some things he says but then i think of his support for the isreali genocide in gaza and it greatly shadows anything positive he might have a hand in.

          My litmus test for support has come down to where they lean on the support for genocide. Given his stance on that, I’m not exactly surprised about him voting for the bill in the op or the other things you mention.

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            It’s not a bad litmus test under current US politics.

            It is about the most powerful third rail in politics right now that exposes the contradictions within the Democratic Party and their voters

            Someone that is an Israel First Democrat is basically a 1 for 1 for being corporate captured on other issues as well.

            And a willingness to call Israel a genocide, an apartheid, and support a full arms embargo(including defensive weapons) is also a good clue they won’t be speaking half measured on healthcare policy, housing, wealth taxes, universal childcare, fighting Trump, ending Citizens United, supporting unions, banning AI data centers, a living wage, and any other issue that faces internal contradictions with Establishment corporate Dems and their voters.

            And sure enough, Ossoff is problematic on all those domains as well.