European leaders push back against Washington’s proposal for a broader security framework, warning that Moscow cannot dictate the continent’s future as US-led peace negotiations over Ukraine prepare to resume in Abu Dhabi.
It is an insecurity deal.
Any deal with trump should be rejected, as the rest of the world well knows. Just wait until that dishounourable degenerate gasbag goes away so we can all start using pens again.
The Art of the Deal
The Shart of the Deal
And one of the new Congress’s first orders of business is to shut this treason down.
The man is demented
Has been for years. No one seems to care.
What needs to be remembered with the pedotator (thanks [email protected], I love it) is that his handlers work for the largest arms manufacturing companies / country in the world. Destabilizing shit is profit. Glad to see more and more of the world not putting up with the crap.
Ditch ‘NATO’ (It’s dead Jim) military spending requirements via % of GDP, Europe just needs enough the fend off a Russia that’s mostly spent on Ukraine (which should be heartily supported) for a few years until Putin inevitably gets defenestrated.
Two years of un-neutered Trump was enough to finally break Pax Americana, I guess we’re moving towards Pax Sino or whatever it gets called. Sure would be nice if the middle powers got together and headed that off. Much as I like the concept of the U.N. the veto powers hobble it as a true vehicle of international unity, maybe everyone should join the EU?
Here’s hoping the Dems actually keep the cheeto clown tied up in serious litigation and red tape for the next two years and the demented fool doesn’t get to release the nukes. Actually effective impeachment sure would be nice. Doesn’t he look tired?
What does europe do in the new world when china invades taiwan? Nothing?
What does it do abiut russian drone attacks supported by china?
Realistically, nobody will do much if China invades Taiwan. The 9nly reasons they don’t is first the example of the shitshow in Ukraine (a smaller power can resist a grater one for a long time) and economic (collapse of the whole semiconductor industry).
The way I see it, the EU is building up its own defense industry, which it needs to do if they leave NATO. So one way or another, the defense spending needs to be up. Although leaving NATO would give more freedom in how to spend that money.
If you’re actually spending for defense, and not force proejction, you don’t need to spend more. You just need drones and nukes.
You would need to spend money on those drones and nukes, right? Maybe not to the same extent though.
An independent defense industry is mostly a separate matter imo. Even if you want to keep the militaries the same size, you still need to invest in the local industry for the sake of domestic production.
the EU is building up its own defense industry, which it needs to do if they leave NATO. So one way or another, the defense spending needs to be up.
Seems reasonable, would really like it if world spending on weapons went down, hopefully the spike from being self sufficient is transitory.
I hope the same. Imo defense spending is pretty useless for society. Except for maybe the development of new tech, but that can be done more efficiently by spending the money directly on that anyways.
Ditch ‘NATO’ (It’s dead Jim) military spending requirements via % of GDP, Europe just needs enough the fend off a Russia
Trump’s biggest complaint about NATO is the lack of spending commitments from other countries, but realistically why should the other powers spend money on defense when, entirely of their own volition, the US seems to cover it all? This is what the Republicans cannot answer, they chose to spend eye watering amounts of money on their own military, no one forced them to do this, they could have funded social care but instead they went with more bombs.
All of their complaints should be referred back to their own policy decisions.
No arguments beyond ‘the US seems to cover it all’ is a trap.
To the complete surprise of absolutely no one with the cognitive capability to put a pair of pants on.
wonder does he have a diaper on 24/7, how often does he change it. hes known to not even be aware that he shat himself while wearing it.
I strongly suspect he isn’t the one changing it. Cleaning up the shit he causes is not exactly a defining Trump-characteristic.
God, Trump is so excited about this too. Every time he talks about it I get this sinking feeling like he’s going to order the US military to side with Russia over Europe and Ukraine.
At least now the US has a house and senate that might actually do their job and act as a check on unfettered executive power.
not if fetterman, schumer, hakeem gets in the way.
Right, which is why getting rid of those three - among others - should be one of the most immediate priorities.
Not until January.
True, but it’s far too late to mobilize that sort of force for a serious offensive. Like we’re not already spread thin in the Gulf of Hormuz and running out of defensive interceptors. 🙄
An entire additional carrier strike group has already been mobilized and en route for a few days now
That’s got to be one of the largest total US Navy deployments since WW2
Or… they’ll do the standard democrat thing, and be totally ineffective. Chuck’ll write an angry letter, but still support the bullshit.
I condemn it!
I condom it?
I condone it* ¯_ (ツ)_/¯
Yes, we are soon about to find out if the system is truly as completely rigged as I think it is. Only truly naive people would ever believe that shadow money and deep state corruption only lives on one side of the ballot. When the odds are as fully and completely stacked in your favor as they are in the return-on-investment you get from political corruption, it doesn’t only just make sense to corrupt both sides, it would be absolutely blindingly stupid not to. Hedging your bets always pays off, and you win no matter what. It becomes impossible to lose. Which explains why nothing ever seems to change meaningfully. We get some theatrics and some token changes to maintain the illusion but nothing ever really changes, because picking the right party or the wrong party isn’t actually your issue.
Only thing he has to do is pull back the troops stationed in Europa
If the USA and Russia team up, it gets pretty precarious here in Canada. One to the south, one to the north, and if the USA grabs Greenland, to the east and west too.
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He will but at least now Congress might stop him
He is a lame duck president and won’t get support from congress on anything.
In terms of foreign policy, he’s often acted unilaterally anyway.
The difference is that now he’ll be put on trial for that sort of thing. His party refused to hold him accountable while they held the legislature. Democrats won’t have the votes in January to remove him from office, but they can force him through a legal process that he would rather avoid. I think he’ll do everything he can to save himself.
Republicans set a precedent when they subpoenaed Clinton over the Trump-Epstein Files™, so now Trump can be forced to testify when he leaves office.
You don’t even have to dignify him with a response at this point. Just say that your looking forward to the working with the next legitimate leader of the United States
This isn’t a Trump thing. The EU is simply no longer a major power. The next leader of the US might be more polite about it, but they will also put Europe on the menu, so to say.
Gotta refute it or the orange guy will think they agreed.
He’s still got the football for the next two years…for now.
I guarantee his handlers replaced it with a football phone some time ago, and I doubt he’s noticed. Even when it rings
They literally took the suit case and have given the dumbass a football shaped phone with a nuclear sticker on it
Exactly! You think Trump knows what it actually looks like? It’s called a football, so football shaped.
Although I doubt they even cared enough to find an actual nuclear sticker. I bet they found an old Mr. Yuk sticker in a drawer somewhere and slapped that on, knowing Trump would never notice
This whole presidenture would be so hilarious is he couldn’t do any damage to other people and our allies.
I bet Russians and Chinese laughing out loud how he is destroying the West.
I’m glad that EU stopped with trying to please him. That never worked.
China, at least, has to be thrilled. Trump ceded so many economic sectors to China. EVs, solar power, nuclear power, among others
Not only that, but his war on Iran pushed the world towards those technologies much faster than it otherwise would have
Trump only really gave Putin a bit more time to draw out his war on Ukraine
Half of those are due to cultural differences.
EVs, Americans wants big shiny difficult to build thing. Chinese wants small, simple, effective car.
Hence American EVs started with big stationwagons, while Chinese EVs began with small hatchbacks. Then they built the larger models after, ontop of the knowledge from the smaller builts.
Solar power, American power grids always favoured reliable production output and never had a boner on for renewables due to the peak and no production cycles. And arguably, the reason everyone is talking about renewables again is due to improvement within battery tech, which positions China nicely due to their willingness to exploit rare earth materials
Yup, I’m sure China is over the moon. A lot of his decisions have basically just boiled down to “hand {soft power} directly to China.” Because the slimy sack doesn’t understand the concept of long-term planning and soft power. Hell, he doesn’t even understand quarterly business planning, because he bankrupts every business he gets his tiny mitts on.
I think he understands long-term planning, he just doesn’t care about it. He only cares about money, power, and in a distant 3rd, his own legacy
As long as a problem won’t happen before he’s out of office, he doesn’t care
Still not convinced that’s not what he’s doing on purpose. Thats what mob bosses would do around new York in the 70’s and 80s. I think it was called a bust out. Just he’s doing it with iran and russia.
Like he’s just got the Iranians to go along with it, or some group or iranians, and in the end they and kushner in sauid arabia get the gulf, with all of the US bases destroyed like the sand nations want. And with the entire conversation getting turned in the media into being about israel all the fucking time, they managed to get domestic support to stop wanting to funding them, so Israel would be out if the picture. And then now they’re just liquidating everything to the rich guys, with the bullshit stock manipulation and scams.
Been sayin’ since the 90s that the 21st is China’s century. Didn’t expect an American President to put his foot on the fucking gas to get there.
Didn’t Xi insult him to his face and he was too thick to realize it?
More of a “back the fuck up” thing:
"Donald Trump spent Thursday lavishing praise on Xi Jinping, while the Chinese leader used his visit to the White House to deliver a power move with a warning for America to stay in its lane.
In front of Trump, and for the second time in four months, Xi urged the two countries to avoid the so-called “Thucydides Trap”—the historical theory that tensions between a rising power and an established one can spiral into war."
I was thinking of the time he told trump the US was a country in decline
Not just the pedotator and his master. Also Kushner is involved. Why is Kushner involved when the Dutch have already proven he is a paid traitor? He’s not even a government official.
From the article. “Kushner sought to reassure European partners that they would not be excluded from the wider process. He said Washington intended to consult closely with them on the sidelines of the Abu Dhabi negotiations and, if progress was achieved, move towards a broader multilateral format involving their direct participation.”
Luckily no one outside of the US takes anything that comes out of any branch of the US government seriously. Just shrug and move on. Circus de Sac à merde.
Trump’s son literally married a Russian oligarchs asset, had wedding events paid for by the Russians. Kushner may’ve been a traitor in some ways, but the Trumps are tied to the Russian by blood/marriage at this point. The Republicans don’t view helping Russia as being a traitor, but as being loyal to their family.
Kushner. 🙄 If there was ever a time to use the Logan Act.
“Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”
They’ll just argue that the president gave him that authority. Trump’d also auto-pardon the guy, and anyone else the dems go after, so long as he’s president. It’s likely why democrats are claiming they won’t go after people as a priority. If in 2 years Americans elect a democrat (big if, as 2 years of blue-dominance “may” re-energize the republican base, and 2 years of duck l’orange may be enough for Americans to forget), then I’d say its more plausible they’d try to hold someone accountable… but also, at that point, they may just try to ‘move on’ / ‘turn the page’, feigning moral high ground, while allowing their cohorts to get away with their actions.
Like left and right wing politicians are really two sides of the same coin, pushing the same broad agenda. In Canada, for example, we just saw a case where a conservative unknown came into power… in large part, I’d argue, because the left-wing incumbents had backed themselves into a corner they couldn’t get out of: the party leader wanted to repeal bad legislation, but factions in his party veto’d it. They couldn’t balance the books, largely because public sector workers just kept getting hired, and unions won pretty much every negotiation, because the left wing government had to be pro-union all the time – so public sector salaries were tanking gov spending. They made a giant mess trying to push their social policies, got a few wins in the process… but then noped out, to let the conservatives come in and be the ‘bad guys’ cutting things. Then when people get annoyed by cuts, the left wingers can get in to power in a future election cycle, and start the process over again.
European leaders have firmly rejected any attempt by the United States and Russia to reshape the continent’s security architecture without their involvement, following President Donald Trump’s suggestion that Washington could be nearing a sweeping agreement with Moscow extending beyond Ukraine to encompass all of Europe.
The remarks, made by Trump on Thursday, have raised fresh concerns among Washington’s European allies that the US administration could be moving towards a security arrangement that accommodates Russian President Vladimir Putin’s long-standing demands at the expense of European interests.
Seems like we’re into the dangerous phase where the autocrats realize they won’t be around forever so have to move quickly to realize their dream of annexing every country they can. Hopefully they can be held off and kept busy, but then we have to watch out for the even more dangerous phase of “If I can’t have it, no one can.”
Sounds like there’s no details and it’s a refutation of the entire concept.
The initiative has immediately drawn objections from European officials, who insist that the continent’s security arrangements are already established and cannot be renegotiated over their heads.
