• Blibittyblah@futurology.today
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          I’ll let you have it. Talking with Americans is like trying to win an argument with someone who is terminally ill. Even if they win, you win.

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            lol, they actually fucking nailed what you’re doing here perfectly. “I hate to agree with tankies…” “You americans are fucking idiots for having hope”

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        Socialism isn’t going to be implemented in a single election. It’s a goal that will take years to achieve.

        But progressives destroying republicans is the first step towards it.

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          Yea, Fetterman called himself a progressive, too. We’ll have to see which ones aren’t just grifting the trend.

          Note that I am not being defeatist. I’m saying we need to watch them like a hawk, let them know when they’re fucking up, and not vote Republican or fail to show up to vote if they turn out to be Fetterman style shitheels.

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            That’s a fair stance. My problem is people assuming it’ll be more of the same despite the DSA winning several seats.

            We need fucking recall votes back.

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              I mean, it likely will be more of the same unless we get a real progressive president in 2028 or a supermajority in Congress. A non-supermajority in Congress isn’t exactly much power in this government, and Dems already have lots of practice kowtowing progressives.

              It’s great to see the blue wave, but this fight is far from over. Definitely agreed on the recall votes.

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                The most important bit is that they can block trumps SC nominees, and that Fettermen doesn’t have the same ability to be a traitor.

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                  Given how many Dems voted for the last set, and wholly unqualified ilk like RFK Jr., are you so sure you can rely on the entire party to stand for something? I’ll genuinely be surprised if all of them have the balls to use a supermajority for anything groundbreaking if they even get one down the road.

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              I guess all we have is hope. The only thing. To even talk about anything else would make one a “bad guy.” No one wants to be a bad guy.

              Silencio!

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                You’re not talking about something in addition to hope, you’re just ignoring what a huge win this has all been, and instead actively trashing hope

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                  Do you want me to list all the laws that passed that aren’t good, in addition to the handful of congressional votes that apparently mean blue wave? Or would you prefer to pretend everything went well?

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                    What I’d like is for you to never speak again, but I realize that’s not likely

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                    Yes I believe what they said was “your derision of any semblance of hope is something I both admire and want a lot more of. It’s frankly amazing and I love it”

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                  I am very sure that an American would think that every other country was embarrassing to live in. But then again I have socialized healthcare and the right to choose not to have the baby if my father rapes me, so… You can stand there being smug thinking you’ve won something but really you’re just sitting in your own shit. I mean, shit that just got 10 points more blue. So purple shit. 💩 🇺🇸

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                    I don’t spend my time trying to dunk on people from another country or trying to generalize 350,000,000 people. I’m also not hopeless. I also, apparently, live rent free in your mind whereas when this conversation is over I’ll never think about you again.

                    So, yeah, I’m better than you.

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        You, and people like you, are the sad ones. What went wrong in your life to make you turn out like this?