Pretty sure that the Rolling Stones has a whole song about where this “beef” is coming from.

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    He never said it was beef. Just “product for.ground beef” whatever that is… I say neigh, I will pass on Burgers for a bit.

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      If you can get as much meat as you’re able to from a local butcher.

      Befriend the people at that butcher shop. Have actual conversations with them, ask their advice on things, even if you don’t think you need it.

      The guy that likes you isn’t going to sell you questionable meat. If he’s any good he’s not even buying questionable meat. You might even get discount locally sourced eggs there too.

      It occurs to me that some venture capital firms have tried to corporatize and boutiquify butcher shops with expensive, “artisanal” offerings.

      Your local butcher probably isn’t wasting money on billboard and TV spots. Parking lot will be full every Friday afternoon and Saturday morning. Case will be full and somebody will be actively cutting something up in the back, which will almost certainly be mostly visible.

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        We’ve got a butcher’s shop in my country that doubles as a restaurant and all the meat comes from their own farm not too far from the city. Best meat I’ve had.

        The US has like 300x more population and a huge thing for beef in particular. Bound to have tons of places like that if you know where to look, or so I’d hope.

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          I also have a quality butcher in ly neighborhood. He wins awards with his sausages, and has his own animals in fields with various farmers he knows.

          Most people just get the cheapest meat at the supermarket, though.

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          Very much depends on where you live. There’s my favorite one, the one I go to for a specific sausage, and two corporate nonsense ones within about 10 minutes of my house.

          Where my in-laws live, a city comparable in size to where I live, there are none.

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    People coming up with all those crazy theories while the most likely explanation is that that there is no beef. It’s not the first time Trump promised something without ever planning on delivering it.

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      I don’t know about that. Last time he imported beef from Argentina and it pissed off a bunch of beef ranchers. Maybe he thought he could avoid that by just not saying where he got it from this time.

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    China wouldn’t take it so trump bought it up and will sell diseased beef to Americans because he doesn’t give a shit if we die as long as he makes money off it.

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    Peak capitalism. Billions of exploited, unidentified animals suffering for profit. Corpse flesh of an unknown species.

    How we treat other creatures seems to be a reflection of how we treat one another as a species.

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    The Tyson beef plant that just got shutdown in the Midwest is going to fuck Republicans…

    Not because of the 2-3k workers, not because of the increased price consumers pay.

    But all the livestock owners who suddenly have nowhere near to slaughter cattle at scale are fucked. Couple that with flooding the market with Argentinian beef, and a lot of Republican voters are going to stay home for midterms.

    They might not admit to themselves they want Republicans to lose majorities, and they’ll likely spend the next two years bitching about Dems. But a lot of them just won’t find the time to vote when they’re getting fucked this blatantly

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      Tyson beef plant that just got shutdown

      That is primarily a consequence of immigration crackdowns. Beef inflation up 9% while cattle is down 9%+

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        this is an insight I hadn’t considered.

        makes intuitive sense but do you have any links or references so people can learn more?

        I thought drought was a major factor in beef supply drop but it’s probably multiple things

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          Meat packing is heavily biased towards foreign born workers. The companies have complained about high labour costs.

          Cattle prices are from futures market charts. The typical market price effects from narratives of “high beef demand” and “Cattle shortages” would be higher cattle prices.

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          The US beef supply is squeezed because some big droughts from a couple of years ago forced ranchers to sell off a lot of their herds.

          Now, they don’t have the herds to supply the demand, and you can’t just magick more cows into existence. Once the problem exists, it takes a bunch of time to grow calves into cows.

          The problem is exacerbated by a dynamic where the current high prices encourage ranchers to sell their cattle instead of keeping them around to grow the herd.

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      And if it came from Argentina like everyone is suspecting, it might be contaminated. It’s not like he’d care if it was.

      China rejects Argentine beef due to chloramphenicol: investigation and internal consumption crisis

      On March 19, the General Administration of Customs of China suspended a shipment of 22 tons of beef from the slaughterhouse ArreBeef in Pérez Millán (Buenos Aires), after detecting the presence of chloramphenicol, an antibiotic banned in Argentine livestock production since 1995 due to its risks to human health.

      The measure raised concerns in the agro-export chain and immediately activated diplomatic and technical channels between both countries.

      https://noticiasambientales.com/animals/china-rejects-argentine-beef-due-to-chloramphenicol-investigation-and-internal-consumption-crisis/#google_vignette

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        Nice investigative work - this is the first I’ve heard about the contamination. It looks like China caught the issue back in March, and its highly likely more of the supply chain was compromised. This would make it subject to further Chinese boycotts, endangering the Argentian economy and screwing Milei because it makes things bumpy for Peter Thiel in his new home.

        This is why Trump is both helping Milei and refusing to say where the beef is from.

        Btw, these are the side effects of chloramphenicol:

        Serious and fatal blood dyscrasias (aplastic anemia, hypoplastic anemia, thrombocytopenia, and granulocytopenia) are known to occur after the administration of chloramphenicol.

        There have been reports of aplastic anemia attributed to chloramphenicol which later terminated in leukemia.

        Blood dyscrasias have occurred after both short-term and prolonged therapy with this drug.

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      They might not admit to themselves they want Republicans to lose majorities, and they’ll likely spend the next two years bitching about Dems. But a lot of them just won’t find the time to vote when they’re getting fucked this blatantly

      It’s so weird to see this identity crisis in action.

      The conservatives are actively screwing them over in every possible way, but they cannot imagine voting for a Democrat. You know, because, well, reasons. The dems are city folk. The dems are for loud-mouthed blue-haired women with nose rings. The dems are gonna take their guns and their gigantic truck (and their manhood). Because dems are for “gender ideology”. Etc.

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        Right. All the crap Fox News has been feeding them 24 hours per day, daily for decades now. They live in a different reality where facts don’t mean anything.

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      I’d rather LOSE my ENTIRE Human Identity then to vote for LOWER Taxes and Healthcare!

      -LITERALLY Republican Voters!

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    If it wasn’t contaminated horse assholes they would have said it wasn’t contaminated horse assholes.

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      They have been selling captured wild horses. I just hadn’t realised they captured quite that many.

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    I read an article today that there was tons of tainted beef that China turned down back in the spring. I forget which country has it. There is speculation that the US has bought it after that country called US to make deal. I will see if I can find the article.

    Edit here is an article about it.

    https://www.btimesonline.com/articles/178274/20260825/trump-opens-u-s-to-300-000-tons-of-foreign-beef-as-china-rejects-22-ton-argentine-shipment-over-banned-antibiotic.htm

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      I’m gonna be real, the majority of the US will never give up eating meat. It’s engrained in the culture and the way people live every day. It would be like asking people to give up couches and only ever use chairs.

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        Red meat industry is several times worse for the environment, it’s the most pollution. But really you have the food waste as the lowest hanging branch, and newer techniques like cold pasteurization with radiation can be done on raw meat and produce without heating it. Reducing food waste by 10 to 20 percent is entirely doable.

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      You know, the last couple of years has had me setting up solar power, buying an EV, and eating almost no animal products except for eggs from my spoiled chickens.

      I think trimp is a leftist plant being used to trick everyone into being more environmentally friendly. At least thats what I like to point out to conservatives.

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      Some people would apparently be dragged in front of a firing squad than learn to like tofu, seitan, beans and other nutritious sources of plant-based protein.

      As a vegan, I’m finding I enjoy food way more than I did as a carnist. It’s an adventure.

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                  You know what? I missed that you’re making cheese from your own breast milk.

                  I read that as, “I make my own cheese (from cows milk).”

                  Whether you were trolling or not carry on! My brain didn’t register it because it’s not a sentence I often see.

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                  Milk comes from a cow. Cows are exploited to take their milk, which is intended for their calves. Cows are forcibly impregnated time and time again to keep them producing milk. Their calves are dragged off at birth. The male calves are sent to slaughter as veal. A few are kept around to be molested for their sperm, then eventually slaughtered.

                  Female dairy cows too, are repeatedly impregnated, often to the point when they’re lame after repeated births. They eventually dry up, and are sent to be slaughter and turned into various products like cat and dog food, glue, and gelatin. This happens around 4-5 years of age, when the age of a wild cow can be up to 20 years.

                  Even if you personally own a cow for making milk and cheese, you still have to do many of these things to produce the milk to make cheese.

                  Cheese can be made from non-animal sources and the results can be quite delicious, if not better than dairy products in some cases. And without the hormones and pus in cow’s milk.