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    There’s been more efforts to catch someone because of a game than millionaires evolved in pedofilia and human traffic

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      It’s not a “game”, it’s a “product”.

      And they will do the same when food and water becomes a “product” too.

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        …Food and water are products. Literal tons of food are destroyed every single day because giving it away to those in need might affect profit margins.

        Companies like Nestle buy up the water rights from under people just to bottle it and sell it right back to them.

        Go attempt some vigilante justice there and see how it goes. There is no “when”. We’re there and we’ve been there for some time.

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    If Cyberleek isn’t shitposting out of his ass and actually has a deadman’s switch which could leak the build in its entirety online, then this could be a very dumb move on Take Two’s end. The authorities would need to go full Ross Ulbricht on his ass and hope they can control the switch.

    What’s even sadder is that T2I and Rockstar have been such greedy litigious fucks over the years that I’m genuinely rooting for a crypto scammer who has used this entire leak to promote his shitcoin over them.

    Just the fact that the GTA6 Extended Look will be a timed Netflix exclusive gives me the ick. That’s one step removed from releasing game trailers as exclusive PPV events.

    If we’re gonna start treating game reveals like UFC and WrestleMania then I’m out.

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    After seeing the leaks, I can now understand the panic. This can result in a lot of hype going away and cancelled pre-orders due to the fact that it just looks like another GTA game and not some miracle that many tried to portray.

    Probably a reason they started pre-orders before showing gameplay.

    Manage your expectations people.

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      Imagine the legal theory of their case against the leakers. “Members of the jury, these leaks caused my client to experience irreparable economic harm when they showed what a piece of shit this game was instead of allowing my client to hoodwink nostalgia driven nerds for an undoubtably countless number of pre-orders.”

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          “Bu-but you can download it be-before hand and play it once the clock show the right time!!”

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      This can result in a lot of hype going away and cancelled pre-orders due to the fact that it just looks like another GTA game and not some miracle that many tried to portray.

      yeah I was wondering how they’d pull off some kind of revolution in rendering tech… is there a source to see these leaks?

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    I’ll echo what most others say here: stop using discord and everything microsoft.

    And maybe also reconsider if modern gaming is a worthwhile passtime.

    Look, I love a good game as much as the next person. But with everything that is coming to light lately I can’t shake the feeling that I want as little digital backdoors for their tentacles around. Because they are harvesting data all over the place.

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      i went and set up my own hosted team speak server. tried to get my discord group of 12 people to switch over during the whole discord bullshit.

      i did all the work and hosted it myself

      guess how many switched over even just initially?

      did you guess zero? because it was zero. “yea we are upset at discord, but if we are loud about not being happy they will change!” the real answer is ‘ i hope they change because i don’t want to be slightly inconvenienced’

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        I hear you (figuratively speaking, because I don’t use voice chat for gaming). My answer would be to quit.

        Now I know that’s a bit extreme for some. We all have our things that we’re willing to give up or not. (Outside of gaming also).

        I for example have a hard time getting people of whatsapp (pos meta spyware that it is). But keep at it, some changes take time. However, as extremer this world gets, the more people will open their eyes and take steps.

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      Modern tripple A games are shitty 9 times out of 10, and remaining good ones are way overpriced. But gaming is on all time rise, the amount of incredible games around, made by passionate and talented people are staggering. Indy is where it’s at!

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        Indie games are good, but if privacy is a concern be careful of any game developed in a big engine like unity. My firewall pings a warning every time I launch a unity game because they all send analytics data back to unity. If it’s single player and you block all outgoing connections by default, you’re fine though.

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          True, but to be quite honest, I’m not that paranoid. The unity analytics I don’t care about, they can have that. I wouldn’t like it if they were doing something beyound checking out how their engine works, but I don’t think that’s happening yet (although I might be mistaken)

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      i want to stop using discord, but some important people to me refuse to leave it and its my good point of contact/talking with them, sadly.

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        This right here. I am in a LDR with my partner and we only use discord to talk. I have tried moving us to another platform but she doesn’t understand the big deal.

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          i wish my situation was that understandable, for me the other side is mostly just “I have nothing to hide, why should I care and upend everything because of it??” and the fact there is no real viable alternative that gives you even most of the stuff that discord does.

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      can microsoft still throw a GDID on a linux machine if you sign into a microsoft account while on linux? maybe not as powerful as on windows, but still as a unique identifying cookie or something?

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        If you run their software, yeah they can fingerprint your device. That includes if you visit their websites — it’s completely feasible to take a deterministic reading of various unique qualities of your machine that can be used to later identify your device as the same device in another circumstance. That doesn’t inherently provide lineage to anything identifying you, but it can easily lead to something.

        Unless you have a very unique device, I imagine it’s not possible to do this posthoc with standard data collection from web traffic. You’d need to be intentionally doing this beforehand for it to be reliable.

        Though… I wonder if there are certain softwares where telemetry can reasonable be used to fingerprint a device. Maybe a browser like Edge — though, who’s using Edge on Linux lol?

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          I would not be surprised if they used minecraft for it, which is why I had my initial concern/question.

          Its probably got a larger install base than any non-corporate microsoft product outside of an OS. Which would make it a fantastic snooping tool

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          Telemetry is usually non-identifiable (by law if your country follows GDPR).

          This form if ID is also pretty circumstantial. That might fly for advertisers but in a court of law I have my doubts.

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        If you allow everything and all cookies most things are possible in theory. In practice most distros are secure enough and most users savvy enough to not accept everything blindly that it probably doesn’t happen.

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        Yes, they can. Every computing device has an ID similar to Windows GDID. You can see yours in Linux with “cat /etc/machine-id”. If I am not mistaken, it changes when you install another distros, but I’ve never checked. Now, since there is a machine ID, using Microsoft services are highly likely to grab that ID, but I am not certain that would happen, I’m just guessing it does, because Microslop. In any case, my suggestion is to remain away from any big tech bullshit as much as your needs will allow.

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        That’s a machine ID, GDID is Winblows exclusive. And in my case, I don’t use any big tech crap, so I’m sure that, even if they could get it, they can’t do shit with my machine ID either. I can always nuke my system, reinstall Fedora, and BOOM! new machine ID.

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    Ngl, the fact that they’ll probably block me out of playing because of my OS of choice already killed the hype for me

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      OS of choice in this case being anything that isn’t a game console.

      I am not going to buy the game multiple times, if I’m going to get it I’m gonna get it on PC where I can get mods because as sure as hell I have no interest in GTA online

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      Single player will probably work. It did for V. That’s all I give a shit about personally. That said, this is kinda feeling like a yoho kinda game to me.

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        Some games even block you out of single player if you don’t have that kernel malware installed sadly. Battlefield 6’s single player for instance.

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            Yah that’s fair, I’m expecting things to get worse before they get better. I still have my older games, so it’s fine. I’d like to be able to try 6, but it’s not a high priority for me.

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    They have had amazing free marketing and they still want to sue people.

    It even made me a bit curious and I think GTA is dead to me after San Andreas, and Rockstar can go fuck themselves because every game they make just feels janky.

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      I liked San Andreas, but, for me personally, Vice City will always be peak GTA because of the story and atmosphere. Four was the last good GTA and I really liked the “weighty” vehicle handling while V was playable, but notably worse. I’ve had zero real interest in VI, especially with what gaming has become.

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      Guilty of that. I’m surprised (from the leaks, so take a massive grain of salt with that) it looks and feels like Red Dead Redemption 2, but in Florida, with cars…

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    Or you could let Rockstar release the game and let your shareholders take a 0.5% hit to their stock portfolio and make it up in the games actual release…

    No no no that makes too much sense and the shareholders won’t get a 1.5% bump if you release it before the next shareholders something something.

    I’m not even going to buy GTA6 until I can buy with a disc.

    You all don’t care about me, enjoy your game… Until it’s disc based I won’t be buying it.

    I haven’t played GTA Vice City, GTA San Andreas or GTA 4 for a while… I’ll play those instead.

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      I understand wanting something physical but at the same time I really don’t see why a disc helps in this day and age, even if you have the disc they can take away access to your game at any time and you just install the game to your console anyway. Why does this piece of plastic actually help?

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        Why do y’all argue about things you don’t understand?

        If a game is on disk, and a lot still are, then no, it cannot be taken away from you without literally entering your home with a warrant at least where I live.

        Owning the physical disk in America at least also grants you the right to download and emulate later.

        There’s also the fact that having a physical routine adds emotional attachment.

        Also, and this really needs to be asked, WHY ARE SO MANY OF YOU FIGHTING FOR LESS OPTIONS? Seriously what the fuck?

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          You make it sound simple and absolute. But, our rights are severely curtailed even in the U.S. via the DMCA. If your console, or even the game code on disk, requires an okay from the manufacturer as a “copyright protection” and you bypass that in any way, you have just committed a felony and are considered by the State a valid target for violence.

          Of course, simply accepting the lack of physical media doesn’t help make the situation any better.

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          Read what they wrote. These things have happened:

          You buy a physical disc. It will not play until you update the console. This is a hard coded minimum version that is on the disc.

          This has also happened in the reverse: a physical disc quit working after a firmware update, but the digital version worked fine, meaning the license transferred to the digital version after the update. Would the physical disc keep working? only if the dev thought it should.

          The only answer is: you dont own the hardware. You have no control digital or not. Do not buy hardware you cant own.

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            You buy a physical disc. It will not play until you update the console. This is a hard coded minimum version that is on the disc.

            the data is still available, somebody needs to figure out how to extract it and patch out the check, and it’s playable again. the patch becomes easier to distribute than the full game, both because of its size, public judgment and maybe the legal situation too. the fact that you have the disk is effectively proof of ownership.

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              somebody needs to figure out how to extract it and patch out the check, and it’s playable again.

              Maybe. There are sometimes system calls and graphics optimizations that wont work, it isnt always just a patch out the check to fix situation.

              I am not sure if you would even be able to get the system to install the software until the patch was implemented, which means you would have to extract the full disc in the first place and then be able to write a new one, and hope the machine would read it.

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        I uhh… I don’t mean on PS5. They can’t take away my PS2 and PS1 games.

        They can surely cancel my right to play My disc based PS4 and PS5 games but I can just disconnect my console from the Internet and keep playing those games.

        I’m 37, I prefer disc based games and I only buy digital when it’s at least 50% off or more.

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    Not to defend anybody involved here but the article does not say that the request has been fulfilled, only filed