• devilish666@lemmy.world
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    Who the fuck romancing AI? I guess this is new low for humankind, don’t blame me if someday we got doomed because of it.

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        Lonely man here, I’d rather stay lonely my entire life than have my emotions held hostage simping for an LLM.

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        Sigh… I guess male loneliness is real things now, the end of era happening so fast that i can imagine

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          “Male loneliness” aka “I’ve been raised to think that patriarchy works and that I deserve a bunch of shit without reason. Why is the world so mean to me?” Meanwhile, everyone is lonely because capitalists made it cost money to see people and no one’s got any of that.

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            Lonely man here. I’ve been raised to think that every man are pervert and women keep getting catcalled and harassed in the street. I’m so ashamed of myself that I just cannot approach a woman without thinking I will annoy her and will be rejected no matter what I try. So I just… don’t.

            I understand people using LLM for romance. I don’t use it because of big corps. But If I had a fully local, fast, LLM, I think I would also use it.

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              To give a specific actionable practice, find a local public hobby meetup and go to it.

              Joining a sea shanty sing-a-long at a local bar changed my life

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              That’s another example. People are just people. If you interact with them, you’ll be shocked to find that most of them have just as complicated relationship with the world as you do. You don’t need to be afraid that everyone views you as a monster because of your gender. They don’t. They won’t trust you initially cause we live in a time of low trust (most interactions you have are people trying to get one over on you, because of the anonymity of the interaction). All that it takes to get over that is more interactions with the same people. Then you’ll be more confident in other interactions with strangers going forward.

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          Sorry uh … in less ‘online speak’…

          People who basically never leave their room/apartment and masturbate like it’s going out of style.

          Hikikomori is basically the Japanese word for a person who literally never goes outside, never socializes in person … ‘gooning’ is now a verb for masturbating.

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      More importantly, who the fuck is anthroporphizing AI?

      Google search results AI answer: “Thinking…”

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    Ah yes, those people are totally start going out and fucking as much as possible. It’s not like that is a symptom of a more general social issue that has been getting worse way before LLMs were popular. And it is also not that people will develop relationships with all sorts of inanimate objects and concepts to cope with reality. The problem was just the AI guys, yay pat yourself in the back

    • Just the same as many folks falling on hard time grab for booze and/or other substances to get to their day. People I general don’t become poor by doing drugs first. But that would mean admitting society has structural issues that are most likely very profitable to a small minority.

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    Iʻm no wizard of number words, but I think the declining birth rate there might have something to do with the decades of one-child policy that wound up favoring male children…

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    I hate to break it to them but that’s not a reason people would stop fucking - it’s a consequence.

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    LLMs are horrible at a lot of things, but this is one area where they excel i’d guess. The things are trained on volumes upon volumes of spicy fanfic and roleplay chats posted for free online. They can probably cater to kinks that I don’t even know exist. Because the lonely aren’t seeking objective responses the hallucinations aren’t as obvious.

    Not that it’s a good thing that they are okay at this though. I’d hate to find out a person got LLM induced psychosis from their fake AI gf.

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      They’re kinda garbage at any creative writing the same way they suck at humor; they’re either weirdly non-sequiturious or incredibly boring.

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        Porn doesn’t need to be very artistically advanced for people’s consumption.

        Look, stepbro, I got stuck in the washing machine! Again!

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      LLMs have yet to enter the monetization process where the models get bogged down with ads for pepsi or whatever.

      Chud: “I love you, robot who always agrees with me”

      LLM: “I’m just holding my pepsi coke here and I’m so excited to say I love you too”

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    Don’t see a source on this bc shitpost but tbf I don’t think most people want kids in a world that’s actively burning down lmao

    Also isn’t China’s youth unemployment rate something like 20%?

    I’m sure it’s not great in other countries either but yeah think I remember reading about the “lay flat” movement (kind of like quiet quitting/job finding struggles in the US)

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    It’s cause young Chinese men don’t fuck.

    And you killed all the little girls decades ago.

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      A lot of those girls were hidden or otherwise, kept off the books from the Chinese government. Not actually that hard in the more rural areas. Not that that excuses the Chinese government’s polices, but the families of those girls weren’t all that depraved. Lot of of adult women suddenly started materializing out of nothing for college.

      It’s been years, so citing my source is hard, but I’ll see what I can find.

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        Sorry man, still busy searching for a source from when I said the sky is blue and a CCP asked me to prove it. I have a lot to catch up on.

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      Yeah. Thinking chatbots is why birth rate is declining is like thinking drug use leads to job loss (it’s the other way around)

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    Here in the States, AI romance is one of the few AI services common shlubs will pay for. Most users only use their free token allotment. Otherwise it’s businesses that buy tokens and drive AI profits.

    And US AI offerings are still plummeting into debt, so any service that makes money is welcome. So far, AI workforce replacement costs more than human workers (by far) and does a poorer job most of the time. Hence Doctorow’s notion of a reverse centaur, the human employee that checks the machine’s work (rather than the machine checking and augmenting human work).

    Also here in the States we have a culture war. Manosphere men (Incels, MGTOW, seduction culture, alpha males, etc.) vote Republican, so influencers get infused with billionaire money. But women (even conservative women) find them insufferable. The battle of the sexes, like the war against trans folk, immigrants and libs serves to distract people away from class consciousness.

    Zoomers are not having sex compared to prior generations at the same age, and an AI companion might be a serviceable substitute. They were already taking on waifus anyway.

    The affordability crisis, poor job growth and poorer upward mobility also informs the lowest fertility rate in US history (below 1.6 which some think is critical). To be fair, US fertility has been below replacement for decades, and we made it up with immigration.

    And it’s the ownership class most frightened by depopulation. Curiously they keep making policy decisions that are downright anti-natal.

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      Their folly is keeping the population educated, which is actually the highest correlation with declining birth rates.

      If AI could be better, there’s no need to support education. But without source material from educated people to cultivate it’s growth, eventually the AI will wither again.

      We are entering an age of neo-feudalism because there is not much more to construct nor motivation to innovate (China doesn’t scare as hard as USSR). And when an entire generation adopts malaise and substitution like the Zoomers, the old hegemony of US dominance wanes, which sets the groundwork for a radicalized future after that period.

      It’s like that saying: strong men make strong times, which produces weak men which begets weak times of increased radicalization, which produces strong men. Ad nauseum.

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        They’re doing a lot to curb education now, and as it is, STEM and literacy are dropping hard in generation alpha.

        But that also means the US master race is just not going to be able to compete compared to EU and China. If the US was stable, it would mean the US would turn into another North Korea.

        But the US is destabilizing as we watch. We may end up in the same situation that Germany was in during the late 1930s, where they borrowed too much and run out of resources, and have a big ol’ army standing by; it’s time to get expansionist.

        I think Chinese bombers over Washington blotting out the sun is the worst possible outcome, but it’s still on the table.

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    It’s a slippery slope for any repressive government. Isolate people so they can’t revolt, but don’t overdo it because birth rates will decline after a certain point.